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Even in minority, GOP managed to get its way
Washington Times ^ | December 22, 2007 | By S.A. Miller

Posted on 12/22/2007 12:46:07 AM PST by JohnHuang2

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To: samtheman; Egon; Wilhelm Tell; wolfpat; TonyRo76; Always Right; jan in Colorado
Four bright FReepers wrote: The GOP used to have a strong philosophy of smaller, limited government. I see the abandonment of this principle as the biggest problem with the GOP today. "Compassionate Conservatism" has turned out to be "Nanny-State Socialism."

Of course, Always Right is correct in pointing out...

Gridlock is better than the crap that went on when the GOP was in the majority.

Somehow, though, I don't want to hope for a GOP minority...I'd rather a re-energized conservative GOP, one that fights against neoconsocialism and returns us to a government that does what it needs to do or should do, not what it can or could do.

wolfpat pointed out:
I think we all are [annoyed at GOP majority lack of progress], and that's why in 2006 enough people voted with their butts to let the RATS in.

Do we think that the GOP got the right message from it all? At what point do we stop believing the "I'm conservative" mantra that is often unfulfilled once the candidate gets into office?

21 posted on 12/22/2007 11:17:59 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

“Or you bump up against the American penchant for supporting “the underdog”..even if he’s dispicable.’

Yeah...

What he said..


22 posted on 12/22/2007 11:41:54 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: JohnHuang2

I think the same elites are in charge.

beltway insiders doing business as usual.


23 posted on 12/22/2007 11:43:45 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I think the same elites are in charge.

beltway insiders doing business as usual.

Bingo.

24 posted on 12/22/2007 11:46:59 AM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Good post, Gondring. If only we could get as organized and energized behind a good conservative candidate (there are only 2, Hunter and Thompson) as we did to stop the MexicoAnnexationOfAmerica bill pushed by McCain, Kennedy and Bush.

If only.


25 posted on 12/22/2007 11:57:45 AM PST by samtheman (Huckabee. A Bible-Packing Leftist.)
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...good conservative candidate (there are only 2, Hunter and Thompson)...

I'd add Paul to that...maybe he's too conservative for most, but he seems to have the understanding of limited government better than the others.

It's nice to hear Sen. Thompson making Federalism the spearhead of his campaign...I just wish it were already a given!

26 posted on 12/22/2007 12:00:07 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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The problem isn’t so much getting a good conservative in the White House as it is finding some for the House of Representatives and the Senate. If we have good people there, the President is almost irrelevant.

There are probably good people out there, but who in his/her right mind would want to undergo what Rush calls the Media Anal Exam that every candidate goes through.


27 posted on 12/22/2007 12:21:53 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: Always Right

None of these were as big as the Dems wanted. Our guys avoided back lash while passing good legislation like the Partial birth abortion ban.

Perhaps the GOP wouldn’t have lost the majority in 2006 if they had “gone nuclear” in the Senate and if they’d refused to make deals and pass legislation. However, if the Dems had the ability to break filibuster in the Senate with a majority vote - this year would have been disastrous.

What I want is the majority back - with a conservative prolife,profamily and proborders Republican in the White House. How are we going to do that?


28 posted on 12/22/2007 1:07:10 PM PST by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org)
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To: wolfpat
The problem isn’t so much getting a good conservative in the White House as it is finding some for the House of Representatives and the Senate. If we have good people there, the President is almost irrelevant.

I agree, wholeheartedly.

29 posted on 12/22/2007 2:20:01 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

You hit it right on the head-the cRATS are ALWAYS on the offensive, the Repugnants ALWAYS on the defensive. Look at the SCHIP fight. They lose, bill gets vetoed, they don’t have the votes to override-do they give up? No. They re-introduce the bill. And run millions of dollars worth of ‘republicans kill children’ ads. And it’ll be back, too, because they want it bad. You’d think the GOP would have learned by now, but they never do.


31 posted on 12/23/2007 11:48:30 AM PST by The Ghost of Rudy McRomney ("I'm a proven leader. That's what the Des Moines Register said.")
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To: JohnHuang2
Even in minority, GOP managed to get its way

Just another chapter in Journalism post Nov. 2001 elections:
e.g., "Dubya Dumbest President Ever" then followed by
"Dubya Most Brilliant Evil President Ever"

For the MSM and their fellow-travelers of the Democratic Party,
Dubya and all Republicans are the Dumbest And Smartest Evil humanoids ever.
32 posted on 12/23/2007 11:51:26 AM PST by VOA
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To: Egon

In the majority, each Party realizes that it is a coalition. The leadership can only get the minority of the minority to go along if it is able to give them more than the minority party.


33 posted on 12/23/2007 11:58:00 AM PST by RobbyS
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