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Rare Revolutionary War battle flags returning to U.S.
Daily Press Newport News ^ | December 21, 2007 | MARK ST. JOHN ERICKSON

Posted on 12/22/2007 6:16:14 AM PST by Pharmboy


The regimental flag of the Continental Army 2nd Light Dragoons, also known as
Sheldon's Horse, was captured by British cavalry led by Banestre Tarleton in the 1779
Battle of Pound Ridge. (December 21, 2007)

WILLIAMSBURG - Four rare American battle flags captured by the British during the Revolutionary War will get their first extended public homecoming Saturday in a new exhibit at The Museums of Colonial Williamsburg.

Taken as trophies more than 225 years ago, the unusually well-preserved banners remained in the family of notorious British cavalry leader Banestre Tarleton until being sold at auction to a private owner last year.

They will be displayed alongside an evocative collection of Revolutionary War-era firearms and cavalry swords in an exhibit called "Captured Colors: Four Battleflags of the American Revolution."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: battleflags; honour; revolutionarywar; revwarinsouth; tarleton; williamsburg
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Back where they belong.
1 posted on 12/22/2007 6:16:16 AM PST by Pharmboy
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We may need them again.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 6:18:39 AM PST by TLEIBY308
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To: Pharmboy

Back where they belong.

While that was my first thought as well, especially as one who grew up in Valley Forge, I have second thoughts.

Given the current trend of affairs and sentiment in this country, perhaps they are safer in private hands.


4 posted on 12/22/2007 6:23:38 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; timpad; ...

"Bloody Ban" or "Bloody Tarleton" in a bloody dreadful portrait.
Painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds

RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list (FreepMail me if you want to be placed on or removed from the list)

5 posted on 12/22/2007 6:25:34 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: bill1952

The flags are indeed owned privately, but through the generosity of the owner will be displayed.


6 posted on 12/22/2007 6:27:15 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

Very kewl. Thanx.


7 posted on 12/22/2007 6:28:36 AM PST by purpleraine
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I would encourage you folks to click through to the article. The curator of the museum has some interesting remarks to make and notes that one of the flags has blood on it, likely that of the ensign who died defending it.


8 posted on 12/22/2007 6:32:03 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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ping to self. I need to drive down there.


9 posted on 12/22/2007 6:34:41 AM PST by IGOTMINE (1911s FOREVER!)
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To: Pharmboy

Tarleton the Butcher died of old age in his bed.

What a shame!


10 posted on 12/22/2007 6:41:33 AM PST by elcid1970
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Yep. Too bad it was Ferguson and not Tarleton at King’s Mountain!


11 posted on 12/22/2007 6:46:59 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy
These flags represent some supremely dedicated and brave men, now long gone, whose many sacrifices for our country we can only imperfectly imagine. We are a part of their legacy and we should be eternally grateful to them for their dedication.

Every school bus within driving distance needs to be packed to the gills and headed to see these flags when they go on display.

12 posted on 12/22/2007 6:55:42 AM PST by Gritty (If the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? - Paul of Tarsus)
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Thanks Pharmboy. I wondered what this meant:

“notorious British cavalry leader Banestre Tarleton”

Found this hissy fit:

http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/071100/mov_0711000005.shtml

“Yes, Tarleton was a ruthless soldier,” Clein added, “but the film goes a lot farther than that and assassinates his character altogether.”

No evidence exists that Tarleton was involved in infanticide or any incidents such as the church arson and murders, said Scott Withrow, historian at South Carolina’s Cowpens National Battlefield, where the Redcoats were defeated in 1781.

“As far as I know, it did not happen,” said Withrow, though he noted Tarleton had a reputation for brutality. “Somehow the Patriot forces latched onto Tarleton and used him for propaganda. The Patriot army were masters of this at that time and they built him up as a hated person.”

These two are from an American source:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/williamsburg/dp-news_revwarflags_1222dec22,0,7042608.story

...Rejecting Tarleton’s demand for his surrender, Col. Abraham Buford held his troops’ fire until it was too late, then watched as the overwhelming British charge wrenched his position into chaos...

...”So prized were these hard-won banners that Tarleton sent them back to England long before he surrendered 18 months later as part of the devastating British defeat at Yorktown.”


13 posted on 12/22/2007 6:56:46 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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1779

Three years after the Declaration of Independence was signed. What a quagmire!

14 posted on 12/22/2007 6:59:11 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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Indeed, Ferguson was a gentleman. He once had an opportunity to kill Gen. Washington from ambush using his famous rifle, but his conscience forebade it and he spared Washington’s life. A noble adversary, surely.


15 posted on 12/22/2007 6:59:16 AM PST by elcid1970
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Indeed. Tarleton is well-known to those of us who study the RevWar. He was the basis of the character "Tavington" in Mel Gibson's The Patriot.

It was said that he gave no quarter to Patriots who surrended, and afterwards the Patriots called for no quarter to the Brits and referred to it as "Tarleton's Quarter."

The RevWar had its particularly bloody and cruel moments (not the least of which were the 10,000 or so deaths of Patriots in the British prison ships in Wallabout Bay in NYC).

16 posted on 12/22/2007 7:05:04 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Given the sanctimony and self-righteousness seen in at least one quote in that hissy fit linked above, this British source turned out to be amusing and ironic:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1792724,00.html

...”Tarleton boasts,” Horace Walpole reported, “of having butchered more men and lain with more women than anyone in the army.” In Reynolds’ studio he encountered the actress Mary Robinson, always known to the world, after a radiant performance in Sheridan’s production of The Winter’s Tale, as Perdita. She had recently been the mistress of the 17-year-old Prince of Wales - the one who became George IV. Someone had bet Tarleton that he couldn’t seduce her, and he didn’t lose bets like that. They stayed more or less together through 15 turbulent years, but often he made life hard for her. In 1783, desperate to escape from his creditors, he suddenly left for France. Perdita, who was pregnant, set off in pursuit. On the way she miscarried, and was left partly paralysed, which ended her stage career. But by now she was also established as a novelist and poet: her output, punctuated by adoring tributes to Tarleton, was successful enough to help pay his debts... The issue that roused him most was slavery. Tarleton was fervently for it. He argued that the economy of Liverpool would be ruined without it (his own family had made its fortune out of the slave trade) and maintained that, in any case, the slaves themselves were happy with their condition. “The common sense of the empire,” he claimed, “will strangle this modern attempt at mistaken philanthropy.” In time he broke with Perdita, whose bitterness against him permeated the rest of her life. Then, in his mid-40s, he married a girl of 20 - more specifically a rich girl of 20... The flags he had captured in the days of his glory remained in his family’s keeping. Captain Christopher Tarleton Fagan, who is selling them now, is his great-great-great-great-nephew. He’s sorry to let them go, he told an American newspaper, but he can no longer afford the insurance. [from 2006]

from the National Park Service:

http://www.nps.gov/archive/cowp/tarleton.htm

Traditionally, Tarleton was seen as a “butcher” when , it was said, America forces under Buford laid down their arms in an attempt to surrender yet the British continued their assault. From then on, his reputation grew and “Tarleton’s quarter”13, in effect, came to mean “no quarter.”

“Tarleton’s quarter” was to become a rallying cry at the Battle of Cowpens. Tarleton, then only twenty-six, had been charged with covering the Carolina upcountry against Patriot guerillas. Specifically, he was to seek out and destroy a threat to his rear, a wing of the American Southern Army, commanded by General Daniel Morgan. By January 12, 1781, he was closing in on Morgan, pushing his men on, fording the rain-swollen Enoree, Tyger, and Pacolet Rivers. Morgan, on the other hand, suddenly halted a desperate retreat, was joined by more militia, and parlayed the fear and hatred of Tarleton into victory at Cowpens in the South Carolina Upcountry.

At Cowpens, January 17, 1781, Morgan appeared to take into account Tarleton’s tendency to rush the attack. His collapsing lines (skirmishers, militia, and Continentals14) brought the tired (having marched since two in the morning) but confident British in prematurely, in effect, exposing them to heavy fire. As the Continentals pinned the British down, militia cavalry would crush them in a flank attack. A mistaken command to retreat drew the British in even more, and, when the retreat was stopped, the Continental line turned and fired with devastating results. In the ensuing panic, the American cavalry, already engaged in battle, flanked the British left, leading to double envelopment and victory and a turning point in the war in the South.

At battle’s end, American cavalry leader William Washington, in mad pursuit of the defiant Tarleton along the Green River Road, engaged the British commander in a dramatic hand-to-hand encounter, in which Washington barely escaped with his life. With the approach of American riflemen, Tarleton, with fifty-four of his supporters, abandoned the battle and fled east toward the British camp, never to be caught up with.

Tarleton would draw criticism from older officers who believed he lacked “military maturity.” Held by some to be personally responsible for the death of some fine officers and veteran troops, Tarleton subsequently submitted his resignation but it was not accepted.

[okay, I hate him now, too. Figures that his resignation was not accepted — the Crown needed a butcher to do its hideous bidding]


17 posted on 12/22/2007 7:10:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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> the character “Tavington”

The movie didn’t even use the guy’s name? So, IOW, the dolts over the Pond are complaining about nothin’? It was a movie, it wasn’t a documentary. I mean, “The Gladiator” had an actual emperor’s name, and I think the sister’s name is correct, but in reality, he executed her, not the other way around. :’) He wound up getting killed by his wife’s lover, I think while he was bathing. :’D Michael Grant writes that “Commodus had something wrong with his groin.” Heh...


18 posted on 12/22/2007 7:18:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, December 18, 2007___________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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America forces under Buford laid down their arms in an attempt to surrender yet the British continued their assault.

That's ... that's it? And over the fog of years, FReepers are certain that every single American stopped shooting, and that there was no possibility of genuine confusion? Wow, Tarleton must have been Ghengis Khan's evil twin.

19 posted on 12/22/2007 7:20:18 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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Yeah, but Tarleton had to flee for his life after Daniel Morgan kicked his a*s at the Cowpens [Hannah’s Cowpens, I believe, is the correrct name]. His American Legion and British troops were almost annihilated.


20 posted on 12/22/2007 7:25:52 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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