The photo of the shooter pointing at Bhutto from behind.
Posted on 12/29/2007 6:40:38 PM PST by Dog
He considers his sources reliable and I consider him reliable...and Wheeler has pretty much said the same thing in post #19.
I saw the same video yesterday from another thread. I didn’t see any flashes in that flick. Although the gun was circled, I couldn’t make it out. The initial reports had bullet wounds. She had too much head gear on to off herself by bumping her head, even on a latch.
“I’m not watching any of these videos. There’s been alert to malware invading your computer with these videos.”
No doubt sent from a friend of yours using an AOL account?
I’m sorry, I subscribe to the alert services of a couple of large antivirus companies, and I don’t see anything in my mailbox. Of course, the usual warnings apply, but I’m pretty sure that IndiaTimes.com is pretty reputable.
In the long run, if you’re concerned about these sorts of things, it pays to get a Macintosh computer as we (the ones who have them) never have had to be concerned about those sorts of things. I’ve got an anti-virus checker and I rarely run into an alert of any kind. And when I do, it’s always been a Windows alert and never one for the Macintosh.
Surf on a Macintosh and never be concerned about those malicious viruses...
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Trojan targets Apple Macs Date: November 2nd, 2007
Internet security firm Intego reported a Trojan that lures Mac users by masquerading as a codec download. An excerpt from PC World: "This is definitely the first fake codec for the Mac," says Alex Eckelberry, CEO of antispyware company Sunbelt Software.
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/tech-news/?p=1479
X marks the spot: Hackers turn attention to Apple's OS
Hackers are increasingly focusing on Apple's Mac OS X, and the number of newly discovered vulnerabilities has surged. Such a switch could mean big implications for Apple's user base, which has traditionally not had to concern itself too much over security.
http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-6069830.html
. . . and much more
“get a Macintosh computer”
Al Gore is on Apple’s board.
I read Dr. Wheeler’s account of the real Charlie Wilson’s war yesterday and again today. Is this Gul dude the same guy he mentions as Gulbuddin in yesterday’s WND article? This is all so very interesting. Except, of course, for all the people who are dying as a result of these power plays.
Do you know how many years that there have been articles warning this and that for the Maciintosh (usually from companies that sell anti-virus software, doncha see... LOL) saying that there is this “proof of concept”, that researcher that has shown this and so on? LOL!!
All the while, nothing happens. It goes on and on and on and nothing happens. And the articles keep coming. The worst thing that the Macintosh users have to be concerned about are those articles saying that something is going to happen...
Even the U.S. Military (one of their branches of military was said to be moving in a lot of Macintosh computers in order to reduce the risk for them (I guess in having some good computers, in case they get “hit” with all their Windows computers).
The risk so *so non-existent* that companies have problems selling *any Macintosh user* — any kind of anti-virus software at all. Macintosh users just don’t buy it, as a rule (and as a group), because it’s such useless software, since nothing ever happens. So, these companies are trying to increase their “bottom line” and trying their darndest to scare Mac users.
So far it isn’t working and their software sales for anti-virus software is “in the tank”... LOL
I just have to laugh, bigtime, at these companies...
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said — “Al Gore is on Apple’s board.”
That’s fine, he can stay there. I’m only bringing home the computer... LOL
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said — “I didn’t see any flashes in that flick.”
If you’re talking about this one here, in this thread, I did see them. Take another look.
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You also said — “She had too much head gear on to off herself by bumping her head, even on a latch.”
That stuff on her head was a cloth covering, not a helmet. LOL... That’s absolutely nothing to stop a person from banging their head up.
Regards,
Star Traveler
The photo of the shooter pointing at Bhutto from behind.
Think of who we are dealing with....Muslims. If she died because of a gunshot wound then she is a Martyr, which then sends her followers into a frenzy, if she died of hitting her head then that lessens the intensity of the situation. They’re all nuts.
The latch theory is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Like she is going to be traveling in a Range Rover with a crank sunroof. Do they even make crank sunroofs on cars? Where would the latch be? Aren’t sunroofs in vehicles power, sealed with rubber around the edges?
From watching a video from some unknown email, not an offical news website.
Amazing picture! It’s like seeing Lee Harvey Oswald with the weapon...
I was wondering if I was the only one who didn't think at least some of the shots were aimed in her direction. I'm no expert but it looks like he could have been shooting at someone on a roof top.
Doesn't really matter if she was shot or died from the explosion. It was an assignation in either case.
I think when we get to heaven (if not sooner), we will find 2 ISI groups were involved - one, with a naive shooter, thinking he would be whisked away, and the second, with the suicide bomber, to eliminate the first. A modified Kennedy conspiracy (if ou believe in that sort of thing, which I don't), without the need to rely on a closed-lipped Ruby. Can't wait for the Oliver Stone movie.
Zia was able to seize power with the help of his friend, ISI Director and Army General Gulam Jilani Khan. When Jilani retired, Zia made his biggest mistake of all, replacing him with a radical Moslem fundamentalist, Lieutenant General Hamid Gul.
It is Hamid Gul we can thank for the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and September 11.
As ISI Director, Gul persuaded Zia to impose Sharia law on Pakistan. It was Gul who let the Saudis establish Islamic schools or medressahs all over the country teaching Wahhabi Islamic radicalism.
It was Gul who insisted the bulk of all weapons and supplies to the Muj go to the one commander who hated America and was a pro-Khomeini fascist, [this is the man, he was speaking of in that article...he is an HVT by our military]Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.
It was Gul who, when Gulbuddin proved incapable of taking Afghanistan over after the Soviet retreat, organized a group of stone-age Moslems in Kandahar called Taliban ("students') to overrun the country.
It was Gul who allowed Osama Bin Laden to establish his base of operations with the Taliban. In the two weeks immediately prior to September 11, Gul was in Afghanistan with Osama. Within hours after the terrorist attack on America, Gul, then back in Islamabad (Pakistan's capital) publicly announced it was perpetrated by the Jews of Israel's spy agency, Mossad.
It was Gul who protected Pakistani nuclear scientist Abdul Oadeer Khan and coordinated his program of selling nuclear secrets to such outlaw regimes as North Korea.
It was Gul who organized and supported the terrorist groups in Indian Kashmir, such as Jaish-e-Mohammed and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Such support continues to this day.
It was Gul who organized the pro-Taliban, pro-Al Qaeda fundamentalist political party Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) that has seized political control of Pakistan's Northwest Frontier Province bordering Afghanistan and dominates Pakistan's national legislature.
And it is Gul who continues to ensure ISI support for the Taliban terrorists fighting American and coalition forces in Afghanistan.
It is absolutely astounding that neither the CIA nor Indian intelligence has had the competence and spine to rid the world of Hamid Gul years ago, that he is still alive and practicing his evil ways today.
Pakistan has no future until it rids itself of the ISI. The only institution capable of doing so is the Pak military, yet the ranks of its officers is riddled with ISI agents. The positive news is that as a whole, the Pak military officers hate the ISI.
They are led by Army Chief of Staff and current president of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, who overthrew the elected civilian leader Nawaz Sharif in a coup in 1999. Sharif was a stooge of Hamid Gul's, and had ordered that Musharraf be replaced with Gul's chief ISI lieutenant Khwaja Ziauddin.
Musharraf threw Sharif in jail, then exiled him. Since then, and especially since 9/11, Pakistani politics has essentially been a sub-rosa war between the Army and the ISI, between Musharraf and Gul.
Musharraf can't go after Gul directly, and feels he can wait him out, as Gul is now in his 80s. While he waits for Gul to die, Musharraf has been systematically purging the ISI of Islamic fundamentalists and steadily reducing its power. By now, there are 40% fewer ISI agents than in 1999 and Musharraf intends to keep going.
So there is hope for this country. While in India I was surprised to see so comparatively little change, in Pakistan I saw comparatively much more. This is not - repeat not - a radically Islamic country.
No doubt it is a fully Moslem country, but the key test is how women are treated. In the Pushtun tribal areas along the border with Afghanistan, women are only seen publicly in burqas (full body dress, just their eyes visible) and are rarely seen at all. Yet the Pushtuns form only about 7% of Pakistan's 165 million.
Women among the dominant ethnic group, the Punjabis, are far, far freer. Yes, most (not all) wear the hijab head scarf, but they work in offices everywhere and display a friendly, confidant competence. Billboards with attractive women's pictures are everywhere, advertising various Pakistani products.
Musharraf's current campaign is to repeal or seriously weaken the "Hoodood Ordinances" medievally restricting women's rights and freedom under the Sharia laws passed by Zia.
Pakistan has a very, very deep hole to pull itself out of. But its economy is improving, its people are hard-working and wonderfully friendly. I am coming away from here with more hope than I expected.
Once Gul dies, which hopefully will be soon, the purge of the ISI will accelerate. Musharraf's PML-Q party should win a controlling majority of parliamentary seats in the coming elections, while the radical MMA will be reduced. Musharraf will remain president.
That's if he stays alive. The ISI has made a number of attempts on his life, which is why he lives at Army Headquarters in Islamabad, not the Presidential Palace. Pervez Musharraf is the only thing holding Pakistan together right now.
The flashes are on this flick, but not the other. I wasn't able to locate the other version. Here's a new one.
"stuff on her head was a cloth covering, not a helmet. LOL... That’s absolutely nothing to stop a person from banging their head up.
It plus the hair's plenty. She couldn't do it if she tried. Watch the above flick and see the blown out head fragments lift the headware.
Yes. The latch they're talking about is a lock to lock the roof in place when it's closed. It's always recessed and doesn't stick out. Post #58 has a new video that shows the actual shooting.
Thanks for posting Dr. Wheeler’s insights.
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