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Visuals of attack on Bhutto(you can see the gunman firing)
India Times ^ | Dec 30 2007

Posted on 12/29/2007 6:40:38 PM PST by Dog

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To: claudiustg
Had she stayed inside the car. . .of course, eventually. . .no matter the level of security; they would have gotten her.

Bhutto was a 'dead lady' walking as soon as she returned to Pakistan. She should have hired her own security; knowing the 'minion' factor.

But there is no security good enough to protect those who are both determined; and somewhat reckless in their determination.

21 posted on 12/29/2007 7:25:50 PM PST by cricket
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To: Skywarner
...Is the guy firing actually riding on the back of a vehicle? If I didn’t know any better, he was riding on the back of Bhutto’s escort vehicle. Hmm, could this guy be one of her “guards?”...

My first thought was it was a security guard firing at the bomber.

I really couldn't tell if the gun was aimed at Bhutto.

22 posted on 12/29/2007 7:31:34 PM PST by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: shield
Thanks. . .interesting perspective here. And of course, 'Dr. Jack' very interesting. . .(read his review on 'Charlie Wilson's War'. . .(WorldNetDaily).)
23 posted on 12/29/2007 7:31:53 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket

I read it at Dr. Wheeler’s web site.


24 posted on 12/29/2007 7:33:32 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The DUmmies are already up to their ears in conspiracy theories about this. All of the theories have Bush or Rove implicated.


25 posted on 12/29/2007 7:33:37 PM PST by skimask (Support Terrorism......Vote Democratic)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The difference here of course, it what happened here afterwards versus the turmoil and world threat it poses; that is occurring in Pakistan. Our conspiracy theories almost a luxury of thoughtful considerations; or hasty opining. Books written. . .theories abound.

Pakistan, offers no luxuries here; not in real time or imaginary. . .

26 posted on 12/29/2007 7:37:00 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket

At any rate I think she made a much better symbol of democracy than an actual leader. She could have accomplished so much inside Pakistan by staying outside Pakistan.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 7:43:30 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optimittstic!)
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To: skimask
The DUmmies are already up to their ears in conspiracy theories about this. All of the theories have Bush or Rove implicated.

LOL. Pavlov's dogs.

28 posted on 12/29/2007 7:43:53 PM PST by matt1234
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To: MplsSteve

You said — “The still pictures I’ve seen seem to back up that it was an assassination instead of Bhutto dying og a fractures skull.”

Well, you know it’s possible to be shot and live, and it’s possible to die of something else, other than a bullet wound. Therefore, if the government has the information from the doctors who say that it’s the fractured skull which is the immediate cause of death, I don’t see a problem with that. Remember, it’s the blast (also from the shooter) which is said to have propelled her head forcefully against the handle which then fractured her skull. It’s the same person who caused the death, but not by a bullet wound.

Regards,
Star Traveler


29 posted on 12/29/2007 7:50:49 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Dog

It just goes to show you that you can’t go anywhere without someone getting a video of it...


30 posted on 12/29/2007 7:51:55 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: TomGuy

You said — “Either way, a collapse of security occurred.”

Well, the people in the car where Bhutto was, had no problems from the inside. The problem was that Bhutto stuck her head out the top. If she had not done that, she would be alive today. They had good enough security to protect her, it’s just that she stepped outside of where she should have been, namely “inside” the vehicle.

Regards,
Star Traveler


31 posted on 12/29/2007 7:55:41 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: ClearCase_guy

You said — “Why would the government deny the bullet wound, then witnesses say they saw the bullet wound??”

Did the government deny the existence of the bullet wound, or rather, did they say that something else was what killed her — namely the extreme hit and crushing of the skull from the bomb blast?

I didn’t understand the situation that the government was denying the existence of a bullet wound. Perhaps there was no bullet wound (I have seen one other report to that effect, actually). But, either way (whether there was a bullet wound or not), it appears that a bullet is not the cause of death.

Regards,
Star Traveler


32 posted on 12/29/2007 7:58:42 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Republican_Beauty
Evidently you have not read much about “her”. She was as crooked as the Clintons.
33 posted on 12/29/2007 7:58:53 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Star Traveler
Nowadays people videotape every public event -- one never knows what may happen. (The Zapruder film.) Remember that only one cable network covered the supposedly routine Challenger space shuttle mission that blew up in January 1986.
34 posted on 12/29/2007 8:01:00 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: shield
Nawaz Sharif is Hamid Gul's stooge

I felt it was strange that there was a "failed attempt" during one of Sharif's rallies the same day Bhutto was assasinated.

35 posted on 12/29/2007 8:02:34 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: TomGuy

True - my security software caught one.


36 posted on 12/29/2007 8:03:32 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: shield
read it at Dr. Wheeler’s web site.

Thanks. . .will check it out. Meant to after reading his comments; figured he had something out there; but forgot to check it. Will do it and bookmark it. ;^)/

37 posted on 12/29/2007 8:08:24 PM PST by cricket
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To: shield

You said — “I’m not watching any of these videos. There’s been alert to malware invading your computer with these videos.”

I don’t know about all the rest of those “videos” but this particular one is no problem.

In the long run, if you’re concerned about these sorts of things, it pays to get a Macintosh computer as we (the ones who have them) never have had to be concerned about those sorts of things. I’ve got an anti-virus checker and I rarely run into an alert of any kind. And when I do, it’s always been a Windows alert and never one for the Macintosh.

Surf on a Macintosh and never be concerned about those malicious viruses...

Regards,
Star Traveler


38 posted on 12/29/2007 8:08:41 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: shield

I’ve seen that you’ve related this a few times, so far, but I’ve yet to see any analysis or supporting evidence from a well-known and reputable source which puts this into print, thereby backing up that assertion.

I mean by that — that the Internet is full of rumors and all sorts of stories, but that doesn’t mean that simply because they are there, or they are told or they are written on the Internet — that they have any validity.

It’s an interesting story that you tell — and now I would be pleased to read some good and reputable source, provide the analysis and evidence to that assertion. Please do supply us with that — because if it’s true, I’m sure that we’ll have lots of reputable sources and writers supplying all sorts of information to that effect...

Regards,
Star Traveler

P.S. — I do understand that those in the opposition parties do have it in their own best interests to spread that kind of story, too — so it would be preferable to have the reputable source not be associated with any of these parties... LOL...


39 posted on 12/29/2007 8:13:20 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: claudiustg
At any rate I think she made a much better symbol of democracy than an actual leader. She could have accomplished so much inside Pakistan by staying outside Pakistan.

True. Also true they lost Bhutto; but they do not need to lose what she represented. They still have the symbol; but they are 'burning' it; as we speak..

40 posted on 12/29/2007 8:17:36 PM PST by cricket
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