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Fort Worth police won't take 'no' for an answer
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | December 29, 2007 | MELODY McDONALD

Posted on 12/29/2007 7:41:14 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084

Drunken drivers, consider yourself warned: The cops will be out for blood.

Motorists on Fort Worth roads who refuse to take a breath test after being stopped for suspected drunken driving on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day will have their blood drawn to determine whether they are impaired.

"If you refuse to take that blood test, we are going to ask for a warrant from a magistrate and come back and take your blood," said Fort Worth Police Chief Ralph Mendoza. "Basically, we are going to get our evidence one way or the other."

For the first time, Fort Worth police are launching a DWI No Refusal campaign in an effort to keep drunken drivers off the roads during the holiday.

In a news conference Friday morning, Mendoza, along with officials from the Tarrant County district attorney's office, Dalworthington Gardens, and Mothers Against Drunk Driving warned motorists not to get behind the wheel if they have imbibed.

"If you are stopped by a Fort Worth police officer and you are arrested for DWI, we are going to get a sample," said prosecutor Richard Alpert, who specializes in the prosecution of DWI and intoxication manslaughter cases. "We are going to get the evidence we need in court to prove your guilt. There is no way around it."

Defense attorney Abe Factor who routinely defends those arrested for DWI, said he believes that the campaign is little more than a publicity ploy and that the results will be lackluster, partly because the process will take time and many will score below the legal limit of 0.08.

"To me, it's more sizzle than steak," he said. "It's a good for thing for them to have a press conference over, but the numbers are going to be fairly small. If they stop someone who is really intoxicated, they are going to have them videotaped all over the place anyway."

The idea for the no refusal holiday came from senior prosecutor Lloyd Whelchel of the Tarrant County district attorney's office.

Whelchel recently attended a training seminar and reminded officials that authorities in El Paso and Harris County had similar programs in place.

The campaign will run from 8 p.m. Monday to 5 a.m. Tuesday and from 8 p.m. Tuesday to 5 a.m. Wednesday. If a Fort Worth police officer pulls over a suspected drunken driver who refuses a breath test, the officer will seek a search warrant from a magistrate.

The suspect will then be taken to a room at the Fort Worth Police Department, where at least three officers with Dalworthington Gardens Public Safety Department will be on hand to take their blood.


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Not entirely unfair. No smoking in restaurants with chilluns. You can still smoke with fat drunken adult slobs in bars.

1 posted on 12/29/2007 7:41:15 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084
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2 posted on 12/29/2007 7:43:16 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Once again, if judges wouldn’t let DUI’s off with a stern look, we wouldn’t be force to be poked with a needle for no reason than the cop had nothing better to do that day.


3 posted on 12/29/2007 7:43:26 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

While I’m totally against driving while intoxicated I seem to remember reading something in an old dusty document once about the right to refuse to give evidence against yourself in a criminal proceeding.

Don’t this seem odd, you have the right to remain silent but we are going to get your breath, blood etc... even if we have to hold you down and take it from you by force.


4 posted on 12/29/2007 7:44:05 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Insanity . I wonder if MADD is behind this ?


5 posted on 12/29/2007 7:44:58 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

>>>>”If you are stopped by a Fort Worth police officer and you are arrested for DWI, we are going to get a sample,”

This is only if you are arrested for it though, right? Is this really a bad thing?


6 posted on 12/29/2007 7:45:46 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I didn’t think of that.


7 posted on 12/29/2007 7:47:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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While I’m totally against driving while intoxicated I seem to remember reading something in an old dusty document once about the right to refuse to give evidence against yourself in a criminal proceeding.

Quaint old document. Not applicable to modern times. How long before we are subject to forced blood draws for cholesterol checks?

8 posted on 12/29/2007 7:47:14 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I would say if you’re involved in a bad car wreck resulting in a death and it’s apparent that you’re intoxicated, maybe .


9 posted on 12/29/2007 7:47:21 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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>>>How long before we are subject to forced blood draws for cholesterol checks?

Now that you mention it, insurance companies have been doing that.


10 posted on 12/29/2007 7:47:56 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

What happens if you are stone cold sober? Do you have any recourse?


11 posted on 12/29/2007 7:48:01 PM PST by buffyt (Free Border Agents Ramos and Campean before Christmas PLEASE! too late.............................)
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To: buffyt

You wouldn’t be arrested for drunk driving though.


12 posted on 12/29/2007 7:48:48 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Yeah it’s bad. What’s next ? Mandatory random blood draws to see if someone has been using drugs or eating too many Whoppers ?


13 posted on 12/29/2007 7:49:10 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: Calpernia

Generally evidence of some sort of crime occuring is required to arrest, and if they are under arrest, then why violate their bodies?

For me this is some disturbing stuff, forciably withdrawn blood samples to provide evidence of a misdeminor crime?

Riight...not even the Soviets did that, nice to see we are progressing past mere Stalinism....


14 posted on 12/29/2007 7:50:36 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: buffyt

What happens if you are sober (or drunk for that matter) and they stick you with a tainted needle and infect you with something ?


15 posted on 12/29/2007 7:50:49 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
Insanity . I wonder if MADD is behind this ?

It wouldn't surprise me. I'm waiting to hear what DAMM has to say about it.

(Drunks Against Mad Mothers)
16 posted on 12/29/2007 7:51:34 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: Neu Pragmatist
They are paying for the nurses.
17 posted on 12/29/2007 7:51:46 PM PST by razorback-bert (Remember that amateurs built the Ark while professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Hemophiliacs, watch out!


18 posted on 12/29/2007 7:51:59 PM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: Calpernia

You are assuming that all cops are not corrupt ....


19 posted on 12/29/2007 7:52:06 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: buffyt

You have no recourse, silly citizen.
It’s for the good of the children, always the children.
Now go stand in line and pull the proper lever for Comrade Klinton.....


20 posted on 12/29/2007 7:52:14 PM PST by 9422WMR
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