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Fort Worth police won't take 'no' for an answer
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | December 29, 2007 | MELODY McDONALD

Posted on 12/29/2007 7:41:14 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084

Drunken drivers, consider yourself warned: The cops will be out for blood.

Motorists on Fort Worth roads who refuse to take a breath test after being stopped for suspected drunken driving on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day will have their blood drawn to determine whether they are impaired.

"If you refuse to take that blood test, we are going to ask for a warrant from a magistrate and come back and take your blood," said Fort Worth Police Chief Ralph Mendoza. "Basically, we are going to get our evidence one way or the other."

For the first time, Fort Worth police are launching a DWI No Refusal campaign in an effort to keep drunken drivers off the roads during the holiday.

In a news conference Friday morning, Mendoza, along with officials from the Tarrant County district attorney's office, Dalworthington Gardens, and Mothers Against Drunk Driving warned motorists not to get behind the wheel if they have imbibed.

"If you are stopped by a Fort Worth police officer and you are arrested for DWI, we are going to get a sample," said prosecutor Richard Alpert, who specializes in the prosecution of DWI and intoxication manslaughter cases. "We are going to get the evidence we need in court to prove your guilt. There is no way around it."

Defense attorney Abe Factor who routinely defends those arrested for DWI, said he believes that the campaign is little more than a publicity ploy and that the results will be lackluster, partly because the process will take time and many will score below the legal limit of 0.08.

"To me, it's more sizzle than steak," he said. "It's a good for thing for them to have a press conference over, but the numbers are going to be fairly small. If they stop someone who is really intoxicated, they are going to have them videotaped all over the place anyway."

The idea for the no refusal holiday came from senior prosecutor Lloyd Whelchel of the Tarrant County district attorney's office.

Whelchel recently attended a training seminar and reminded officials that authorities in El Paso and Harris County had similar programs in place.

The campaign will run from 8 p.m. Monday to 5 a.m. Tuesday and from 8 p.m. Tuesday to 5 a.m. Wednesday. If a Fort Worth police officer pulls over a suspected drunken driver who refuses a breath test, the officer will seek a search warrant from a magistrate.

The suspect will then be taken to a room at the Fort Worth Police Department, where at least three officers with Dalworthington Gardens Public Safety Department will be on hand to take their blood.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alcohol; donutwatch; dwi; nannystate
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To: Calpernia
WouldnÂ’t someone take the Breathalyzer to keep from being arrested?

I see you have never been stopped for anything serious by a cop...Arrest is purely at the officer’s discretion. If you piss him off by insisting your rights be respected or declining to answer questions they can and do go ballistic. It will be his word against yours unless you or your car is wired. There is a kid in the St Louis area who has clearly demonstrated that. Another good example is to legitimately refuse a search of your vehicle. Drives them nuts. BTDT.

To the issue in question, most people do not realize that breathalyzers are not always accurate and are not subject to independent testing or analysis (trade secrets). Also some depts have taken to billing people for jail stays and blood tests. It can be fought if you are innocent...but its not worth the time

Always insist on the best test available, which is a blood test. It also means you can have sample tested independently at a later date if necessary. Its also takes resources off of the street and lessens the ability of the crooked depts to conduct such scams.

121 posted on 12/29/2007 9:13:30 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Eric Blair 2084
"Basically, we are going to get our evidence one way or the other."

Herr Hitler, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
122 posted on 12/29/2007 9:13:40 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
How long before we are subject to forced blood draws for cholesterol checks?

Sorry, but I don't really think so. Besides, your cholesterol can't kill my kid. Your drunkenness can. The inescapable message is: don't drink and drive.

123 posted on 12/29/2007 9:14:03 PM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

John Wayne rules ! There is a little vulgarity in this , but this is great .

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uf7R2_GWJ2Y


124 posted on 12/29/2007 9:14:49 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: Migraine

Even if you’re not drunk, but the cop says you are drunk, and you know he knows you’re not drunk ?


125 posted on 12/29/2007 9:16:04 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: Calpernia

you give away your rights too easily...fool


126 posted on 12/29/2007 9:17:04 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: dragnet2

Resisting arrest, blood drawn or tyranny is a serious offense. Punishable by death. Unless you live in the DPRNJ. No death penalty allowed...it’s cruel and inhumane.

But if you have a BAC of .09 after drinking a few beers and driving home from your office Christmas party God help you. You’re going to the chair.

I pray to God this doesn’t come back to haunt me. I worry about my wife and kids driving around at night in the minivan on the way home from the mall.

This is what happens with the nanny state. It’s like the “Boy Who Cried Wolf”. Everyone is so sick of the Gubmint lying and telling us that a whiff of cigarette smoke will kill you that they have no credibility when a real threat is present.


127 posted on 12/29/2007 9:17:23 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

John Wayne/Mr. Morrison sounds drunk in that youtube interview. I would like to see the authorities try to book him for DWI while he was riding his horse home.

He’d tell them what America is about.


128 posted on 12/29/2007 9:20:50 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Is that great or what !


129 posted on 12/29/2007 9:22:01 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (Anti - Fred dissent and RINO / Romney propaganda should be crushed like a Huckster Hard Drive ...)
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To: mylife
If degradation of alcohol content in the blood is quick, relatively speaking, it will accelerate over time. When the test is actually done, the remaining traces must be extrapolated back to the original content. The differences in the rate of alcohol degradation particular to your body is determined how?

130 posted on 12/29/2007 9:22:19 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: steel_resolve; Calpernia

Don’t call Calpernia a fool. Or I will beat you to death with a wet noodle. She’s on the side of freedom....mostly.


131 posted on 12/29/2007 9:22:55 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: William Terrell

Normally, they dont normally extrapolate back, they just cite the level found. Remember that you can be convicted with a BA below the presumtive threshold.


132 posted on 12/29/2007 9:24:30 PM PST by Starwolf
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To: Migraine
How long before we are subject to forced blood draws for cholesterol checks?

Sorry, but I don't really think so. Besides, your cholesterol can't kill my kid. Your drunkenness can.

Actually, a pilot, bus/taxi driver, or truck driver etc can kill your kid if they have a medical problem or heart attack. Happens all the time.

133 posted on 12/29/2007 9:24:48 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Eric Blair 2084

you think these things are a joke and funny. I submit to you that they are deadly serious.


134 posted on 12/29/2007 9:27:01 PM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: Neu Pragmatist

Kruschev and other dignitaries used to meet John Wayne and drink Vodka with him. His persona and on screen characters may be “fictional” in the literal sense but they are as real as the nose on everyone’s face when it comes to pop culture and Americanism.


135 posted on 12/29/2007 9:28:15 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
The suspect will then be taken to a room at the Fort Worth Police Department, where at least three officers with Dalworthington Gardens Public Safety Department will be on hand to take their blood.

I would think that a trained medical professional ought to be doing this procedure.
136 posted on 12/29/2007 9:37:02 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: Calpernia
What happens if you are stone cold sober? Do you have any recourse?

You wouldn’t be arrested for drunk driving though

And what planet have you been living on? People have gone to jail for DUI that were stone cold sober.
137 posted on 12/29/2007 9:38:58 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: steel_resolve

Is this the part where I have to go to a mandatory public school assembly and stay quiet while I listen to a Goverment ordered speech about drunk driving? Complete with horrific pictures and sad stories?

This is not 1984 and I’m not 16 years old anymore. I can log off and not listen. Social engineering is hard work. I feel your pain.


138 posted on 12/29/2007 9:41:19 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Calpernia
I don’t understand why the Breathalyzer would be refused.

Because it's common for the brethalyzer to register that you've been drinking even if you've literally never drank in your entire life.
139 posted on 12/29/2007 9:44:27 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: JamesP81
It's OK. Barney Fife has taken the mandatory government course in how to draw your blood. Just shut up and stay still.


140 posted on 12/29/2007 9:45:18 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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