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Posted on 12/31/2007 7:11:15 PM PST by mcjordansc

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To: ansel12

What I mean to say is that I’m not sure he can be trusted — I don’t know what to believe any more because of what he has done in the past. It’s to the point where you need proof that matches the words. You get my meaning, now, I think. :-)


41 posted on 12/31/2007 9:41:02 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: ansel12
Read this for insight and encouragement.
This came to my mind after you told us about your 4 friends

In this story, the city was under siege with no hope, and God used 4 lepers in a miraculous miracle.
( Miracle)


42 posted on 12/31/2007 9:49:51 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Read your post 34 and read your post 41 and be embarassed.

Quit trying to manipulate people and be honest, read those two posts and any that you made between, and look at the huge journey that you took, do you think that we can’t see that childish attempt to manipulate?


43 posted on 12/31/2007 9:50:55 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Thanks, I’ll read it, but you don’t want to get threads mixed up and start blending them.


44 posted on 12/31/2007 9:53:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: ansel12

Hmmm, I don’t recall saying I believed he is taking the high road. Maybe you should re-read my original post.


45 posted on 12/31/2007 9:57:02 PM PST by mcjordansc
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To: ansel12

It’s understood, but, who knows ? God could use 4 plain average guys to do a miracle.


46 posted on 12/31/2007 9:57:50 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: mcjordansc

But, I will say, Huckabee does not bother me enough to resort to the petty name calling that is common here on Free Republic. I guess I left that behind in grade school.


47 posted on 12/31/2007 9:58:59 PM PST by mcjordansc
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To: mcjordansc

Look at post 17-—”””I am not sure Huckabee voters see this as a disaster. I have talked to family back in Iowa and even though they are not all Huckabee people, they look at this afternoon as Huckabee pulling back from the abyss at the last minute. He is getting credit for taking the high road (like it or not).”””


48 posted on 12/31/2007 10:00:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: ansel12

Where did I say I was giving him credit for taking the high road? I know it was a political move by a candidate with too little money to make major ad buys (and a smart move at that, despite the criticism). Guerilla marketing 101. You have to comprehend what you are reading better. My statement that people I talked to are giving him credit for taking the high road does not equate with me believing such.


49 posted on 12/31/2007 10:12:24 PM PST by mcjordansc
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To: ansel12

Listen, I am honest and not childish, nor do I see and treat people as such, and I don’t manipulate people — I don’t play games (especially mind ones). Again, all I am saying is there are some people who will see what Mr. Huckabee has done as taking the high ground, because they don’t like negative ads and don’t like the media — that’s all — simple as that. And, of course, there will be people who feel the same as you do about this. It’s not my fault or anyone else’s that these people think this way. I don’t know how many of them are out there, but there are some.


50 posted on 12/31/2007 10:16:27 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: unspun
Manipulating the press and failing miserably to manipulate the press are two entirely different things.

Huckabee did not manipulate anything today except the truth.

If he had manipulated the press they would be showing his ad and talking him up as a great guy. That is not what is happening.
51 posted on 12/31/2007 10:31:08 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: mcjordansc

“My statement that people I talked to are giving him credit for taking the high road does not equate with me believing such.”


The post 21 explanation, but post 17 sounded to me as though you were trying to lead us to believe something. You WERE selling us something.


52 posted on 12/31/2007 10:39:58 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: elizabetty
If he had manipulated the press they would be showing his ad and talking him up as a great guy. That is not what is happening.

Do you really think so? I think they said thru the weekend that they would be deciding what to do as they went along. In instances such as this, when a candidate actually retracts an ad, deciding not to show it, it is understood that the press will not show it. It becomes like "off the record" comments.

53 posted on 12/31/2007 10:47:18 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: GOP_Lady

” Again, all I am saying is there are some people who will see what Mr. Huckabee has done as taking the high ground, because they don’t like negative ads and don’t like the media — that’s all — simple as that. And, of course, there will be people who feel the same as you do about this. It’s not my fault or anyone else’s that these people think this way. I don’t know how many of them are out there, but there are some.”


Read your posts to me starting at 34 and be sure and catch 41, it was probably an effort that should not have been made.


54 posted on 12/31/2007 10:48:54 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: ansel12

What is it that you are trying to say, please?


55 posted on 12/31/2007 10:51:15 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1946453/posts


56 posted on 12/31/2007 11:06:53 PM PST by RonDog
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To: GOP_Lady

That in post 34 you were trying to lecture me, and that by post 41 you were saying this “What I mean to say is that I’m not sure he can be trusted — I don’t know what to believe any more because of what he has done in the past. It’s to the point where you need proof that matches the words.

I think that you were trying to lay a cloud down initially, with a subtle insult and using a candidate that you probably dislike more than me to make a vague negative statement (about me)that you did not just want to throw out there. I think that you were even playing to the crowd a little in post 34.

When you portray yourself as a strong Catholic accepting Mormonism as Christian, and then I ask you the Catholic position on Mormonism, you have never responded, yet for this we have a long conversation.


57 posted on 12/31/2007 11:12:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: mcjordansc
>>Where did I say I was giving him credit for taking the high road? I know it was a political move by a candidate with too little money to make major ad buys (and a smart move at that, despite the criticism). Guerilla marketing 101. You have to comprehend what you are reading better. My statement that people I talked to are giving him credit for taking the high road does not equate with me believing such.<<

For it to work, he needed to have the press cover the content of the attack ads and distribute his message for free. Instead, he appears to have gotten 100,000+ "process" stories on what they are calling his meltdown. It would be fair to say the press did not respond the way he wanted.

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58 posted on 01/01/2008 1:37:32 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: mcjordansc
BTW, its kind of interesting what you get when you search for Huckabee meltdown and Dean scream. Who says Google doesn't include conservative sites?

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59 posted on 01/01/2008 1:39:34 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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