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CAUCUS '08: Thompson camp denies he's dropping out
Sioux City Journal ^ | 3 January 2008

Posted on 01/03/2008 1:49:08 PM PST by bd476

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To: popdonnelly

Lets see now who has the most money and who has the most to lose?Romney is the rino and Thompson is the conservative.I dont think its that far of a stretch.This was expensive to pull off.It has romney written all over it.


41 posted on 01/03/2008 2:52:06 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: flaglady47
Here's a couple of interesting links:

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42 posted on 01/03/2008 2:55:52 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: flaglady47

Fred,like other Republican senators,gave McCain an sop on CFR—the Arizona sob is a mean scary bully and hard to resist(much like LBJ was).They didn’t believe Bush would really sign the abomination or that SCOTUS would actually uphold it.
Bad judgements all around,but Fred is still 90% Reagan conservative—only Duncan Hunter rates higher.


43 posted on 01/03/2008 2:59:48 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: imahawk

It doesn’t “have Romney written all over it”. There are any number of politically motivated people in Iowa or the country at large that could have planted the rumor. Or it may be a fabrication by the Politico.


44 posted on 01/03/2008 3:07:42 PM PST by popdonnelly (Get Reid. Salazar, and Harkin out of the Senate.)
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To: flaglady47

Fred has also said, several times since, that supporting CFR waw a mistake pure and simple. I’ll cut him some slack on this issue. McInsane still thinks CFR didn’t go far enough...I’ll cut him a fart.


45 posted on 01/03/2008 3:08:45 PM PST by SAJ (po)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; P-Marlowe

Romney planted this story.

It only makes sense.

The issue is NOT Thompson supporters coming to Romney. The issue is Romney supporters finding Thompson more attractive. This will be a particular problem in SCarolina and Florida.


46 posted on 01/03/2008 3:13:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: shrinkermd

In many ways, it’s a logical statement. Thompson does poorly in Iowa, may be low on money, and doesn’t want to get embarrassed in the coming primaries, drops out with an endorsement for McCain, and gets lauded for giving it his best shot. I think, however, no matter how poorly Thompson does in IA, that he will continue on to SC. If he does poorly there, then he will quit and endorse McCain...


47 posted on 01/03/2008 3:14:06 PM PST by magritte
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To: xzins
The issue is NOT Thompson supporters coming to Romney. The issue is Romney supporters finding Thompson more attractive. This will be a particular problem in SCarolina and Florida.

I agree. Basically Thompson is taking the same policy positions as Romney (minus the socialized medicine), only when Thompson says it, he's not lying.

48 posted on 01/03/2008 3:15:43 PM PST by Texas Federalist (Fred Thompson - The only true conservative in the race)
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To: Happy Rain

“Fred,like other Republican senators,gave McCain an sop on CFR—the Arizona sob is a mean scary bully and hard to resist(much like LBJ was).”

Fred likes McCain to this day, and agreed w/McCain when CFR was passed. He now (flip flopping?) is singing a slightly different tune regarding CFR. How about this one (RINO position?): [from Wash. Post, July 2007]

“Thompson defied Republican orthodoxy almost as soon as he arrived in Washington in 1995 as a freshman senator. Having just regained control of Congress, the party was pursuing the agenda it had set out in the Contract With America.

That included proposals to limit the ability of lawyers to bring lawsuits, cap the size of damages that could be won and limit the fees that lawyers could earn in civil cases. “This is the only provision in the Contract With America that goes against our basic philosophy,” he declared at the time.

Thompson broke with his party during the early debate to vote against several provisions. One would have required attorneys to tell clients that they were entitled to an upfront estimate of their legal fees and another that would have limited attorneys’ fees.

He eventually joined Republicans in approving moderate new restrictions on product-liability lawsuits — but only after several tougher provisions opposed by lawyers and consumer groups were stripped.

Thompson justified his vote on the grounds that products crossing state lines fall under the federal government’s regulation of interstate commerce. But he continued to strongly oppose efforts to put limits on medical malpractice awards in states, at times citing stories of victims such as a 5-year-old girl who died after having her tonsils taken out.

In 1998, Thompson voted against a plan offered by Republicans that would have limited to $250 per hour the amount that lawyers could charge in tobacco lawsuits. He voted against similar curbs for lawyer fees in death-penalty cases, medical-malpractice cases and drug-patent litigation.,,,”


49 posted on 01/03/2008 3:17:45 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
In 1998, Thompson voted against a plan offered by Republicans that would have limited to $250 per hour the amount that lawyers could charge in tobacco lawsuits. He voted against similar curbs for lawyer fees in death-penalty cases, medical-malpractice cases and drug-patent litigation.,,,”

So what. I don't believe in price controls on anything. If a lawyer can get 200 or 400 or 1000 or more an hour, then shouldn't that be between the buyer and the seller.

Government price controls are government price controls no matter which profession you're talking about.

50 posted on 01/03/2008 3:26:45 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: xzins

“So what. I don’t believe in price controls on anything. If a lawyer can get 200 or 400 or 1000 or more an hour, then shouldn’t that be between the buyer and the seller.”

You must be a lawyer, and if you aren’t, I hope for your sake you don’t have to hire one someday.


51 posted on 01/03/2008 3:28:36 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: xzins

“Government price controls are government price controls no matter which profession you’re talking about.”

By the way, you totally miss the point. The point is that lawyers were and still are charging outlandish fees when they know they are going up against what they see as deep pockets in class action suits, such as against the tobacco industries. They strike gold, and the alleged “victims” get next to nothing. I’m sure you know thi, and if you don’t, you aren’t the brightest bulb in the pack. Often, it is the taxpayer who’s pockets the trial lawyers are picking, when they go after gov’t entities, like old schools w/asbestos problems as an example. All the enviro-whacko lawsuits, the land use lawsuits out West, etc. So you and I end up enriching these shysters. Think before you speak.


52 posted on 01/03/2008 3:33:41 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; jude24
You must be a lawyer, and if you aren’t, I hope for your sake you don’t have to hire one someday.

What a silly statement.

I want to hire the best one. And the best one will be available at a higher price than the worst one.

Price controls are a violation of a free market whether for lawyers or for cars.

Why don't we require GM & Ford to sell ALL cars for $10,000? It's the same thing.

BTW, if you answer this wrong, then you have no idea what free market conservatism is.

53 posted on 01/03/2008 3:34:22 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Happy Rain
Fred is my second choice. Duncan Hunter is my first. I also think Mitt would do a reasonably decent job as a third choice.

No way could I vote for Rudy McHuckster even with a clothespin on my nose.

The vitrol aimed against Mitt here is totally unjustified. He did a reasonably good, though not spectacular, job as governor of a hopelessly Lieberal state for four short years and earned his money in the private sector before that. Rudy McHuckster can't even come close.

54 posted on 01/03/2008 3:35:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: flaglady47; P-Marlowe

There’s a contract, ma’am.

The terms are spelled out. No one has to sign it.

They can go get less competent lawyers who charge less money.


55 posted on 01/03/2008 3:36:50 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Uriah_lost
Maybe he thinks that Thompson entering the race at all is a knife in the back so he sees it as responding in kind.

He HAS to win NH in order to have a chance in SC, and coming in behind Thompson (and possibly Paul) would be a deathkneel for him. And yes, I agree with you about his "intemperateness". He never forgets a slight.

Look at how he paid Bush back for the "supposed" dirty tricks in SC 8 yrs ago.. He went after the Republican agenda for 8 yrs just to get his revenge on Bush! Is this guy mcinsane, or what?

56 posted on 01/03/2008 3:37:50 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: xzins

“Price controls are a violation of a free market whether for lawyers or for cars.”

Yeah, you’re the kind who would allow gas station owners to gouge the public during the aftermath of a hurricane, because it’s whatever the market will bear.


57 posted on 01/03/2008 3:38:24 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47; xzins; blue-duncan; jude24
You must be a lawyer, and if you aren’t, I hope for your sake you don’t have to hire one someday.

Trust me, if xzins ever needs a lawyer he's got several freepers who will be more than happy to represent him for free.

How's that for "price control"?

58 posted on 01/03/2008 3:42:45 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: flaglady47

It’s his gas station. No one says you have to buy gas there.

In fact, though, if Gas Station X raises their price to $6 per gallon, and that causes people to buy just enough to get to the next station a hundred miles (5 gallons?) up the road in northern Louisiana, then they are doing a service by rationing and thereby enabling more people to get out of town.

Gas station Y keeps their price at $2 per gallon and some get to fill up at that price and gas gets to roughly one third to one fourth the number of people.

Letting the market decide the rate puts market rationality into the equation.


59 posted on 01/03/2008 3:44:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: flaglady47; xzins
Yeah, you’re the kind who would allow gas station owners to gouge the public during the aftermath of a hurricane, because it’s whatever the market will bear.

LOL. You apparently have no clue about how price serves to regulate supply and demand.

60 posted on 01/03/2008 3:44:56 PM PST by newgeezer (caucusing for Fred Thompson tonight at 7 PM -- Iowans, find your caucus at iowagop.net)
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