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Michigan Leads the Nation in Outbound Moves
Mackinac Center for Public Policy ^ | 1-03-2008 | Mackinac Center for Public Policy

Posted on 01/04/2008 11:10:39 PM PST by Westlander

United Van Lines, LLC has released its annual migration study on where it takes its clients to and from among the 48 contiguous states. The Mackinac Center for Public Policy has tested their data against actual census data going back to 1977 and found the two to be very highly correlated. This makes UVL data something of a leading migration indicator. According to UVL, a staggering 67.8 percent of its Michigan client traffic was outbound in 2007. That rate is an all-time record high, eclipsing the previous 1981 record of 66.9 percent during a year the Great Lake State suffered from an unemployment rate of 12.5 percent. Last month the U.S. Census Bureau reported that Michigan lost 30,500 citizens from July 2006 to July 2007.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: exodus; granholm; michigan; move; outbound
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Thank you Jennie !
1 posted on 01/04/2008 11:10:40 PM PST by Westlander
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To: Westlander

Wow, people fleeing Michigan in droves. Imagine that.


2 posted on 01/04/2008 11:15:39 PM PST by PeterFinn (A muslim in the White House would be an Obamination.)
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To: Westlander; grellis

Jeni delivers on her campaign promise. She did say we’d be blown away.


3 posted on 01/04/2008 11:22:52 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Westlander

I live in Arizona, but we visited Michigan over the summer. The one thing we noticed as we drove from Kzoo to the Soo is that the highways seemed deserted. Beautiful summer days driving to Mackinac Island, Tahquamenon Falls, etc., and it was like we had the roads to ourselves. Very weird... and sad for the state.


4 posted on 01/04/2008 11:35:24 PM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: inkling
I live in Arizona, but we visited Michigan over the summer. The one thing we noticed as we drove from Kzoo to the Soo is that the highways seemed deserted. Beautiful summer days driving to Mackinac Island, Tahquamenon Falls, etc., and it was like we had the roads to ourselves. Very weird... and sad for the state.

It's usually like that on the western and northern sides of the state. It's much different going up and down I-75, and there are massive traffic problems going "up north" on summer weekends. Beautiful state, hope it can rebound before the brain drain destroys it.

5 posted on 01/04/2008 11:41:04 PM PST by Azzurri
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To: inkling

If you eliminate a 1/2 dozen or so cities here, it’s a handsome state.


6 posted on 01/04/2008 11:47:07 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: magslinger

Granholm is a skank.


7 posted on 01/04/2008 11:47:28 PM PST by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Westlander

High taxes, Detroit under a socialist oppressive regime, corrupt democrat party scum infesting the overbearing state government... who in their right mind would stay in this hellhole?


8 posted on 01/04/2008 11:52:43 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Westlander

The Unions, Citizens and politicians of Michigan have worked very hard to drive out jobs and taxpayers, to become the one state in the lead to become the American Kosovo..


9 posted on 01/05/2008 12:09:28 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

If I did not have business and family ties that make it worth my while to stay in MI I be gone tomorrow. Big unions, race politics, and tax and spend liberalism have finally brought this state to its knees.

And Jenny is moving the state ever faster in the wrong direction.


10 posted on 01/05/2008 2:04:02 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Westlander

I wouldn’t be surprised if New York is right up there with MI.


11 posted on 01/05/2008 3:47:02 AM PST by GnL
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To: Westlander

... not to add too much negativity to this issue, but isn’t Michigan home state to Dearbornistan?


12 posted on 01/05/2008 3:57:02 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: ByteMercenary

Yep.


13 posted on 01/05/2008 3:58:53 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander
As Michigan continues its 'DEPOPULATION'--will the last one out please 'turn off the lights'?

Maybe raising taxes in an already high and overtaxed state will help to attract more people and businesses!! /s

14 posted on 01/05/2008 4:00:53 AM PST by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: Apple Blossom

ping


15 posted on 01/05/2008 4:01:57 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: Westlander

I think Florida would rival Michigan easily, if we could sell our houses.

I saw a poll recently that 1 in 5 of us were ready to move out. My house is for sale, come and get it!


16 posted on 01/05/2008 4:04:19 AM PST by ovrtaxt (People seemed to be content, $50 paid the rent, FREAKS WERE IN A CIRCUS TENT, Those were the days.)
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To: Westlander

Great Lakes Region Sees More People Leaving; West, Southeast Welcome Residents According to 2007 United Van Lines Migration Study

Movement out of the Great Lakes region increased in 2007, while the South and West generally showed an inbound migration trend. The statistics are among the findings of United Van Lines’ 31st annual “migration” study that tracks where its customers, over the last 12 months, moved from and the most popular destinations. The findings were announced by Carl Walter, vice president of United Van Lines, the nation’s largest household goods mover.

United has tracked shipment patterns annually on a state-by-state basis since 1977. For 2007, the accounting is based on the 212,917 interstate household moves handled by United among the 48 contiguous states, as well as Washington, D.C. In its study, United classifies each state in one of three categories — “high inbound” (55% or more of moves going into a state); “high outbound” (55% or more of moves coming out of a state); or “balanced.” Although the majority of states were in the “balanced” category last year, several showed more substantial population shifts.

MOVING IN

The South emerged as a top migration spot in 2007, with North Carolina coming in as the top destination (61.6% inbound). Alabama (57.9%) experienced its fifth year as a high-inbound location, while South Carolina (57.8%) continued its 14-year inbound tradition. West Virginia (55.7%) witnessed its highest inbound percentage since 1993, and Tennessee, with 55.1%, rounded out the high-inbound list for the South.

Although not considered “high inbound,” other Southern states also greeted new residents. Kentucky (53.0%) continued its six-year inbound trend; Georgia (52.3%) continued its 26-year trend as an inbound state; Mississippi (50.1%) saw the same inbound percentage as it did in 2006; and Florida (50.1%) returned to being an inbound state after witnessing increased departures last year.

The Western portion of the country also was a popular destination spot. Capturing the No. 2 inbound ranking, Nevada (59.4%) continued its high-inbound trend that began in 1986. Oregon (58.4%) sustained its 20-year, high-inbound trend, and Arizona (55.8%) maintained its six-year position on the high-inbound list. Wyoming (57.2%) boasted a 2.8% increase over last year’s percentage, and South Dakota (57.4%) continued its two-year, high-inbound trend.

Although not considered “high inbound,” other Western states witnessed an influx of residents. Colorado (53.8% inbound) continued its five-year inbound trend, and Montana (53.1% inbound) retained its six-year inbound status. Utah (53.5% inbound) saw a slight decrease (2.5%) as compared to last year, and Idaho (54.3%), which was high-inbound for 19 consecutive years, had fewer people move in than move out.

Rounding out the high-inbound list is Washington, D.C. (58.5%), which has remained inbound since the inception of the study.

Some other noteworthy inbound-migration states in 2007:

* Texas (54.4%) continued its inbound movement that began in 1989.
* After showing a three-year outbound trend, Louisiana (50.1% inbound) turned a new leaf and saw more people move into the state.
* Vermont (54.9%) continued its three-year inbound pattern, and Virginia (51.6%) stayed strong with its 12-year inbound trend.

MOVING OUT

States in the Great Lakes region generally showed an outbound trend, according to United’s records. Ranked No. 1 on the high-outbound list last year, Michigan (67.8%) once again captured the top outbound spot.

Other Great Lakes states that made the high-outbound list were: New York (59.4%), which has been an outbound state since the survey was established; Indiana (56.4%), which has been high outbound since 1993; and Illinois (57.6%), which has been high outbound since the survey’s inception. Also continuing outbound traditions, Pennsylvania (56.6%, high outbound for the past four years), and Ohio (57.0%, outbound since 1992) saw residents depart.

Rounding out the high-outbound states, North Dakota (67.2%) marked its 12th consecutive year as a high-outbound state, and New Jersey (61.0%) continued its outbound trend that began in 1997.

Not identified as “high outbound,” but following the outbound trend in the Great Lakes part of the country, Wisconsin (54.6%) witnessed more people leaving the state, a trend that has continued since the inception of the study.

Some other noteworthy outbound states in this year’s study were:

* California (50.8%) saw its lowest outbound percentage in five years.
* Missouri (51.4%) continued its 13-year outbound trend.
* Maine (50.1%) witnessed its lowest outbound influx since 2001.
* Maryland (54.1%) retained its 16-year outbound tradition.
* Oklahoma (53.9%), outbound since 1998, continued to see more people leave than move into the state.

Walter said the United Van Lines study, through the years, has been shown to accurately reflect the general migration patterns in various regions of the country. He also noted that real estate firms, financial institutions, and other observers of relocation trends regularly use the United data in their business planning and analysis activities.

United Van Lines, with headquarters in suburban St. Louis, maintains a network of 1,000 affiliated agencies throughout the world. As the nation’s largest mover, United holds more than 30 percent of the market, which is nearly double the market share of the second largest carrier. More information about United and its services can be obtained through the company’s Web site at www.unitedvanlines.com.


17 posted on 01/05/2008 4:06:56 AM PST by Nickname
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To: ovrtaxt

Michiganders don’t sell houses anymore. We just abandon them.


18 posted on 01/05/2008 4:07:25 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

Detroit, Flint, Saginaw, Ann Arbor, Lansing, ??


19 posted on 01/05/2008 4:10:35 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

I thought Michigan was turning into a 7th century Islamic State. Wrong?


20 posted on 01/05/2008 4:13:27 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: PeterFinn
Hey! We still have the Illegals taking their place, so there.
21 posted on 01/05/2008 4:14:17 AM PST by sig229 (If you see a fork in the road, take it.)
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To: Eddie01

+ Muskegon, Dearborn, Southfield, Inkster, Oak Park......


22 posted on 01/05/2008 4:15:48 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

Where are all of these people moving too????


23 posted on 01/05/2008 4:16:21 AM PST by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Westlander

Well abandon your and buy mine already!! It’s going to hit 72 today...


24 posted on 01/05/2008 4:16:31 AM PST by ovrtaxt (People seemed to be content, $50 paid the rent, FREAKS WERE IN A CIRCUS TENT, Those were the days.)
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To: sig229

Michigan has been running TV ads featuring the actor from Dumb and Dumber and several other movies. Forget his name but talk about Mission Impossible. He is trying to entice people to move to a state with high taxes, corrupt government, cold weather, and the flagship city is the murder capital Detroit.


25 posted on 01/05/2008 4:21:00 AM PST by doosee
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To: ovrtaxt

Dang!
http://www.weatherunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=48186&hourly=1&yday=4&weekday=Saturday


26 posted on 01/05/2008 4:21:11 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: doosee
Hey! We have our flagship.

27 posted on 01/05/2008 4:25:49 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Nickname

Does anybody know why lots of folks are moving OUT of North Dakota and lots of folks are moving IN to South Dakota?


28 posted on 01/05/2008 4:27:52 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: doosee

Jeff Daniels.


29 posted on 01/05/2008 4:28:15 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Azzurri
“hope it can rebound before the brain drain destroys it.”

Sorry to inform you but you the horse is already out of the barn concerning your Michigan brain drain. I live in the Dallas metroplex and have just recently completed a two year stint in Shanghai, China. Between all the upper Midwest expat’s in China supporting the American auto industry and their suppliers in China and all of the upper Midwest migrants who relocated to Texas, one has to wonder who will be the one to turn out the lights up there. Btw, these people leaving the upper Midwest and the one’s who typically have the skills, education, entrepreneurial spirit and other wherewithal to take good Texans. So, we will gladly accept these folks and the dregs can stay on their couch right where they are...

30 posted on 01/05/2008 4:31:39 AM PST by snoringbear (')
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Reason
31 posted on 01/05/2008 4:33:44 AM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander

Back in the 60’s, an uncle of mine lived in Dearborn and worked for Chrysler. We visited and Dearborn was a pleasant family type community. Now I guess its been ruined by the third world invasion and drugs, gangs, etc. Too bad.


32 posted on 01/05/2008 4:36:47 AM PST by doosee
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To: MrLee

There are small concentrated muslim populations in south central/south east Michigan, but nothing to the north where the majority of the state lies.

I’ve never heard a peep out of those folks.


33 posted on 01/05/2008 4:47:43 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: PeterFinn

[Wow, people fleeing Michigan in droves. Imagine that.]

Yeah, imagine that. The marxist democrats and rino liberals are turning the nation into a cesspool with the liberal anti Christ, tax and spend, take take take the taxpayers monies and American’s freedoms from the citizens.
The democrat states like Michigan,New Jersey, and California and New York are dying and will die economically and spirtually and become but weak and stupid and arrogant fiefdoms run by marxist (dems and rinos) politicians as time goes on.
And there will be no place left to leave.


34 posted on 01/05/2008 4:58:15 AM PST by kindred ( The front runners of GOP are big governement anti freedom social liberals;like dems.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

[High taxes, Detroit under a socialist oppressive regime, corrupt democrat party scum infesting the overbearing state government... who in their right mind would stay in this hellhole?]

A fact indeed and well spoken.


35 posted on 01/05/2008 5:00:08 AM PST by kindred ( The front runners of GOP are big governement anti freedom social liberals;like dems.)
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To: inkling

Up State NY is the same. People have just left. It will take 30 -40 years before it will change as it now stands. Taxes they just don’t get it. Democrats and Taxes.


36 posted on 01/05/2008 5:00:28 AM PST by reefdiver (The sheriff of Nottingham collected taxes on behalf of the common good)
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To: ovrtaxt
hurricane hype got you down? turn off the TV instant relief. I wonder if the recent storm that hit CA is a 'named storm', the winds were over 75 mph and that's all it takes to get a name off the NHC hurricane list. The fact that it's in the Pacific, just add a footnote that it was and write it down. Another name bites the dust and adds to the NHC tally.

Admittedly, Florida got a little carried away with raising taxes over the last few years. Now that the housing bust is here, the governments have no more money. But then came Charlie, the Democrat, he worked as hard as he ever did in his whole life, and couldn’t come up with a tax cut that would help. Who knew Charlie was a one square kind of guy.

37 posted on 01/05/2008 5:06:53 AM PST by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: MrLee

[I thought Michigan was turning into a 7th century Islamic State. Wrong?]

Ha, and it is true. The Islamic terrorists love the democrats who hate the Christians and conservatives of the nation and are useful idiots to there continued assault on all once Christian nations. The day may come when the dems will be the first to be beheaded and murdered by their Islamic masters if things continue to collapse under the new age movement.


38 posted on 01/05/2008 5:07:29 AM PST by kindred ( The front runners of GOP are big governement anti freedom social liberals;like dems.)
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To: Plains Drifter

Unfortunately, to the red states where they will continue to destroy non violent Christians and conservative values in the name of love and for the children.


39 posted on 01/05/2008 5:09:10 AM PST by kindred ( The front runners of GOP are big governement anti freedom social liberals;like dems.)
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To: Westlander

I moved to Michigan in 1968, after college I left in 1985, but came back in 1993 but finally had to get out in 2005. I miss the beauty and the lakes, I grew up “up north”, but I do not miss the politics or the Detroit area.......

One thing about the “migration” out of Michigan, those leaving have the work ethic and I would guess tend to be more conservative. This is leaving fewer working stiffs to support those living under the great “welfare state”.....


40 posted on 01/05/2008 5:42:05 AM PST by machman
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To: Westlander

“Last month the U.S. Census Bureau reported that Michigan lost 30,500 citizens..”

Let’s correct that...”Last month the U.S. Census Bureau reported that Michigan lost 30,500 PRODUCTIVE citizens...”

The welfare bums and various other government leeches are staying put. Michigan is a gravey train for the unproductive. Jenny the commie is doing her job to create a massive socialist welfare state in Michigan and position it as a Rat state for a generation.


41 posted on 01/05/2008 6:02:29 AM PST by sergeantdave (The majority of Michigan voters are that stupid and the condition is incipient and growing.)
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To: Westlander

Makes me sad. My home state.

I didn’t leave because I was compelled to...I left because marriage took me elsewhere. Yet I have no desire to move back.


42 posted on 01/05/2008 6:20:09 AM PST by jnygrl (A big mouth coupled with a small mind is a dangerous combination)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
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If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

For those of you looking for work who enjoy driving, UHaul et al are probably hiring couriers who can bring moving vehicles back to the state.

For those of you thinking of moving, good luck finding a van.

43 posted on 01/05/2008 12:04:16 PM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: PeterFinn
Wow, people fleeing Michigan in droves. Imagine that.

Nothing new there. I meet (ex-)Michiganders everywhere.

44 posted on 01/05/2008 12:24:07 PM PST by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: grellis

Thanks for the ping. It doesn’t surprise me. I know 2 families and 1 individual that left Michigan in 2007. One family and the individual went to Arizona. The other family went to Mississippi. All outstanding, productive hard-working Americans.


45 posted on 01/05/2008 12:26:10 PM PST by PGalt
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To: grellis

We moved last year to Kentucky from Michigan and we still haven’t sold our home. But the worst part is that my husband my get a new job that would put us back in that state.


46 posted on 01/05/2008 2:01:50 PM PST by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Reagan79
Granholm is a skank.

You're being too kind. BTW, layoffs coming to GM.

47 posted on 01/05/2008 2:38:14 PM PST by madison10
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To: doosee

48 posted on 01/05/2008 8:32:12 PM PST by FreedomHammer (Just ring? ... let freedom ROAR!)
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To: dragonblustar
Kentucky is the only state in which I've lived besides Michigan. Fort Knox. Beautiful state.

My husband was offered a terrific job in Indianapolis last year--it was a tremendous opportunity. Unfortunately, his company wouldn't relocate us, and we couldn't risk sitting on two properties. Good thing we didn't try, either, because our house is still on the market.

We'd be glad to have you back, though!

49 posted on 01/06/2008 1:02:18 PM PST by grellis (Is this the best we've got??!)
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To: sergeantdave

HOw can we get Michigan to eliminate the State income tax and replace it with a “fair tax” - that would get the freeloaders at the cash register.


50 posted on 01/06/2008 3:49:06 PM PST by Sioux-san
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