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Evangelicals Sent Some Messages to the Repbulicans, but was Anyone Listening?
The Common Voice ^ | January 4, 2008 | Dan Burrell

Posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:25 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

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1 posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:29 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

What’s a Repbulican?


2 posted on 01/05/2008 12:05:24 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Ol' Sparky

I think the people are misinterpreting the Iowa caucus. With the exception of one, there has been no other candidates since 1976 that have won Iowa and have gone on to be the party’s nominee.

And that does include President Ronald Reagan who came in second place in Iowa to George H.W. Bush. Only George W. Bush came in first in Iowa and went on to be the party’s nominee.

Iowa is a Democrat state that has a horrible time selecting Republican Presidential Candidates. But now the conventional wisdom will be on New Hampshire, and Huckabee’s record will become a factor very soon.


3 posted on 01/05/2008 12:06:34 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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The Huckster has already decreed that any examination of his record will be called “negative campaigning”.


4 posted on 01/05/2008 12:09:00 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Barry Goldwater once said (and I am paraphrasing here, anyone with the actual quote handy, I’d appreciate it) that “the religious are going to ruin the GOP”. Now, I’m more than aware of how Goldwater drifted left for lack of a better term later in his life, but last night I couldn’t help but wonder about Goldwater’s remarks on what we now call the “religious right”...

...did he happen to foresee the day where a very sizable portion of the GOP would simply vote for somebody (like Huckabee) because he’s a preacher?


5 posted on 01/05/2008 12:10:18 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Don't panic, folks. Rush Babies Will Save America.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Then let the negative campagining begin. You can’t run for POTUS without a thorough examination of your record and everything else under the sun.


6 posted on 01/05/2008 12:11:06 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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Repeat after me: Single issue voters.

They see Christian and forget about just how bad an overbearing, meddling federal government can be.


7 posted on 01/05/2008 12:12:31 AM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservatie and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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So I must be a practical evangelical type. I believe strongly in as little government intervention as possible when it comes to 'compassion'. That is what churches and people's giving is all about. Business is about making money. It is called profit. What is Caesar's is Caesar's brother.

Maybe in the mega churches they need to start teaching economics, business, and politics 101. The churches are not taxed so of course they can get away with dismissing this pragmatic reality and preach idealism until the cows come home. If this person and evangelicals he is writing about are so worried about Mom's being able to put food on the table they better consider what 'compassion' costs in taxes first as one third of what everyone earns ATLEAST is taken out of our paycheck. This is saying they want to increase the money taken out of that Mom's paycheck even more. Go figure on how all that makes sense in the real world. Maybe add accounting classes too.

I am an evangelical. This is why I want as little government in my life. PERIOD. Balance the budget. Maintain our military. Simple tasks. Then get the heck out. Be green all you want on your own. Free country.

8 posted on 01/05/2008 12:14:05 AM PST by GOP Poet
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I agree. But it won’t stop the whining. Huck is a crybaby.


9 posted on 01/05/2008 12:14:22 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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The Huckster has already decreed that any examination of his record will be called “negative campaigning”.

If the records of the candidates are going to become off limits to discussion during a campaign, we might as well just put all their names in hat and draw one on election day.

10 posted on 01/05/2008 12:18:03 AM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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Oh yeah and the country should maintain the boundaries of our border. Number three. That is about it for this Social and Fiscal conservative. The man who wrote the article is describing Democrat party policies. Bye, bye evangelicals if this is your philosophy, do not let the door hit you in the as-. By the way kiss all the people at the gay church weddings as well with your fellow Dems.


11 posted on 01/05/2008 12:18:46 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Route66
Reminds me of the 92 campaign when Hillary called the examination of the Arkansas education system under the Clintons an assault on the good people of Arkansas.
12 posted on 01/05/2008 12:24:34 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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A vote for Duncan Hunter or Fred could also have been a socially conservative vote. But it also would have been a vote for closed borders, lower taxes, 2nd amendment rights, traditional marriage, and a better choice to kick the raghead head choppers in the teeth. I'm sure the Huckster is a nice man and probably a capable preacher, but we are voting for more than that. Tancredo was right on EVERY issue I ever heard him talk about, but was labeled a one issue candidate. A very important issue, but still only one. He was the first one out, and Hunter and Fred aren't getting much traction.

I've said since the beginning, if Guliani or Mitt is the candidate, most likely enough evangelicals will stay home or vote 3rd party, we will have a Dimwit as president. They don't want Hillary or Obama, but they don't have anyone to vote FOR. If the Repubs want to go back to oblivion, just stick with tax cuts and Wall Street and ignore the social issues. Most Christians can't tell the difference between Guliani and Hillary. We have a different measuring stick. Republicans couldn't win anything until they got fed up with immoral, unpatriotic, paganistic, diversity, claptrap. Then they got traction from people that had some core belief systems. All belief systems are not equal. These "people" are not throw away's. We will be a permanent minority party if the Repubs think killing babies or anal sex is a "moderate" position. The "solid south" turned Republican when they got fed up with flag burning, gun grabbing, baby killing, communist leaning, prayer forbidding, God hating, fag lovers. These blue collar workers weren't changing parties by a tax cut proposal.

If the Repubs think Guliani or Bloomberg is a "good" Republican, their asses will be handed to them. They had better court the social conservatives or they will die a slow mediocre death.

13 posted on 01/05/2008 12:36:20 AM PST by chuckles
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Compassionate Conservativism has taken root in the evangelical community.

"Compassionate conservatism" is liberalism. I don't appreciate leftists trying to use government to take my money and meddle in my life, and I won't appreciate evangelicals trying it any better.
14 posted on 01/05/2008 12:38:48 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Here’s the quote:

“Religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy.
They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives.”


15 posted on 01/05/2008 12:40:23 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: MetaThought

Okay, thanks.


16 posted on 01/05/2008 12:41:15 AM PST by GOP_Raider (Don't panic, folks. Rush Babies Will Save America.)
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To: writer33

” You can’t run for POTUS without a thorough examination of your record and everything else under the sun” and no fire in your belly....Sarcasm


17 posted on 01/05/2008 12:42:52 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: writer33

” Repeat after me: Single issue voters “ who have drank the koolaid of Huckaberry


18 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:02 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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Nominate Guiliani and watch Obama capture a shockingly significant portion of the evangelical vote.

Can I stop laughing now?

In a real campaign, Barack Hussein Obama will be cut to shreds.

Do you really think there are no cached copies of the websight from his "Afro-centric" church?

Do you think no one will point out that according to all islamic sects, he is islamic, because his father was? You do realize that the penalty for apostasy (conversion to another religion, in this case) in islam is death.

Do you think that each & every facet of his background will not be examined in detail and the many, many islamic ties pointed out?

While many evangelicals consider Romney's Mormonism to be heretical, it is not considered hostile to Christianity. Islam is considered just downright hostile.

Guiliani may be considered a sinner, but there are many biblical leaders who were sinners, but still effective leaders.

Given the choice between Romney's Mormon religion and Obama's faux Christian church (which may be even more heretical than the LDS, once examined) or his likely, or possible, remaining islamic ties, evangelicals will hold their noses and pull the Guiliani or Romney lever.

19 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:18 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Ol' Sparky

HUCKABERRY Koolaid voters


20 posted on 01/05/2008 12:44:32 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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