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Pro-lifer Confronts Giuliani During Speech -- 'You are a baby killer'
Christian Newswire ^ | 1/5/08 | Christian Newswire

Posted on 01/05/2008 4:54:08 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I recall Bush saying that he had no intention of trying to overturn Roe vs Wade, even though he was personally against abortion.

Guess Bush is a baby killer too?

It's one thing to have moral convictions about abortion. It's another to be an obnoxious zealot.

This heckler makes Rudy look better and pro-lifers look bad.

21 posted on 01/05/2008 5:21:04 PM PST by Jorge
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To: wagglebee

Those ex wives can be awfully nasty.


22 posted on 01/05/2008 5:24:32 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! Duncan Hunter is a Cosponsor.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; svcw
Most people don't know that Rudy is pro-abortion, they just know him from 9/11.

And when they really start looking at the events surrounding 9/11, they realize that Rooty DID NOTHING to protect a known terrorist target in seven and a half years as mayor leading up to 9/11 and his only actions during and after 9/11 was cheering for the rescue workers.

There is a reason that Admiral Husband E. Kimmel never ran for public office, just like the 'Rats aren't suggesting that Ray Nagin seek higher office. Rooty's failure to protect a known terrorist target would have earned him a trip before a firing squad if he was the mayor of a major city in a country like China.

23 posted on 01/05/2008 5:24:48 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jorge; Extremely Extreme Extremist
I recall Bush saying that he had no intention of trying to overturn Roe vs Wade, even though he was personally against abortion.

Can you provide a source for that?

24 posted on 01/05/2008 5:26:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EveningStar

As opposed to facilitating the tearing off of the body parts of living babies?


25 posted on 01/05/2008 5:28:15 PM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: Clintonfatigued; svcw; EveningStar
Oh, I'm sure most people know that the Dems are pro-aborts: it's been a plank in their bloody party platform for almost 40 years.

That's why Giuliani is more dangerous: as a CINO and a RINO, he embodies the message that one can be a Catholic and a Republican AND pro-abortion: that a man can betray the faith and morals of his religion, and the principled platform of his party, and still be considered a fit candidate for the highest office in the land.

Only Rudy can destroy the Republican party as a principled institution; if he wre nominated, the Republican party would self-destruct. I guaran-damn-tee it.

26 posted on 01/05/2008 5:30:09 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What's Rudy but Ah-nold in a dress?)
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To: SoConPubbie
"I judge a man by his past actions more than by his campaign rhetoric when he is saying what he thinks he needs to say to gain votes."

Good to see you haven't been "Hannitized" into believing the lie that Rudy will appoint strict constructionist judges who will rule against everything their appointer has stood for all of his public life. I wish all FReepers would recognize Rudy for the crooked mobbed-up fraud that he is.

27 posted on 01/05/2008 5:31:32 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: hellbender
Well, I "personally oppose" murder, but somehow I don't think the decision should be left to murderers.

Yeah, the "I'm personally opposed, but I wouldn't want to express my views to anyone else" line looks very foolish once it is demonstrated how it sounds when some other crime is substituted for abortion.

28 posted on 01/05/2008 5:31:48 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: blaquebyrd; SoConPubbie
Good to see you haven't been "Hannitized" into believing the lie that Rudy will appoint strict constructionist judges who will rule against everything their appointer has stood for all of his public life.

Read what I posted in #18, Rooty made it very clear that he would appoint justices who he believed agreed with HIM and that means pro-abortion.

29 posted on 01/05/2008 5:33:40 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t support Giuliani, but we’re never going to get anywhere with these antics.


30 posted on 01/05/2008 5:36:51 PM PST by bahblahbah (conservative confessional reformed evangelical yadda yadda yadda christian against huckamania)
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To: wagglebee

Maybe I missed this sordid detail about the man’s past, but did he actually kill any babies himself? Otherwise, he’s not a “baby killer.” Blurring the definition of guilt is more of a left-wing hobby. Not that I think he’s WITHOUT guilt for being pro-abortion, however.


31 posted on 01/05/2008 5:41:13 PM PST by macamadamia
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To: macamadamia
Maybe I missed this sordid detail about the man’s past, but did he actually kill any babies himself? Otherwise, he’s not a “baby killer.” Blurring the definition of guilt is more of a left-wing hobby.

To the best of my knowledge, Hitler, Stalin and Mao never personally killed anyone either.

32 posted on 01/05/2008 5:44:01 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

This kind of heckling invariably turns off the majority of people and generates sympathy for the person attacked. People know Rudy’s position. Most people don’t like abortion, but they don’t consider everyone who is pro-choice a “baby killer”.


33 posted on 01/05/2008 5:44:59 PM PST by Hugin (Mecca delenda est!)
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To: wagglebee
"Read what I posted in #18, Rooty made it very clear that he would appoint justices who he believed agreed with HIM and that means pro-abortion."

Any president would. Only fools who want any guy with an (R) behind his name in the white house, "Hannity" would believe otherwise. Remember this is the same guy who recommended Kerik to head Homeland Security knowing he had mob ties, mistresses and used 911 rescue worker hotel rooms as his personal love shack. They don't come any sleazier than Rudy. The guy even put his mistress, (potential First Lady) under police protection courtesy of NY tax payers. It repulses me to think he is thought of as a viable candidate in the GOP.

34 posted on 01/05/2008 5:48:41 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: wagglebee
There is nothing more irritating than hearing about these holier than thou self righteous far right conservatives who take it upon themselves to be the Saviour of the souls of men & women. All of them should watch over their own glass houses and zip it! Get real, get a life and stop trying to control other human beings, it is folly to even try. I don’t care who votes for whom, I will vote for the best leader who will protect America and her interests. Nuff said. (To all the wackos that would love to engage, please refrain, I have not the time)
35 posted on 01/05/2008 5:50:20 PM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: wagglebee
There is nothing more irritating than hearing about these holier than thou self righteous far right conservatives who take it upon themselves to be the Saviour of the souls of men & women. All of them should watch over their own glass houses and zip it! Get real, get a life and stop trying to control other human beings, it is folly to even try. I don’t care who votes for whom, I will vote for the best leader who will protect America and her interests. Nuff said. (To all the wackos that would love to engage, please refrain, I have not the time)
36 posted on 01/05/2008 5:51:00 PM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: Hugin
People know Rudy’s position.

ONLY because pro-life groups have spent the past year making sure that people realize how pro-abortion he is. A year ago, all the average voter knew about Rooty Toot is 9/11.

Most people don’t like abortion, but they don’t consider everyone who is pro-choice a “baby killer”.

There is a major difference between a pro-abortion private citizen and a powerful pro-abortion politician who works to expand abortion.

37 posted on 01/05/2008 5:51:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: blaquebyrd

Yep, Rooty Toot’s personal life and lack of ethics is really no different from the Clintons.


38 posted on 01/05/2008 5:53:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 7thOF7th
There is nothing more irritating than hearing about these holier than thou self righteous far right conservatives who take it upon themselves to be the Saviour of the souls of men & women.

So, you're okay with the fact that over 3500 children are murdered in abortuaries every single day?

39 posted on 01/05/2008 5:55:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Jorge

I doubt that any candidate, pro-life or otherwise, is going to openly state an intent to overturn Roe v. Wade. Apart from pissing off the party moderates, nobody likes the prospect of millions of angry women in the streets and millions more dollars in Democrat coffers, IMO.


40 posted on 01/05/2008 5:55:09 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I resolve to remember to write "08" on my checks.)
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