Posted on 01/11/2008 7:10:12 PM PST by Andy'smom
Back at Politico World HQ for a brief respite before heading onto Michigan I've been able to catch up a bit on some reading.
These maps, courtesy of the PolySigh blog, tell an interesting story.
It appears that Romney defeated Huck in the more heavily Catholic counties along the Mississippi River in eastern Iowa.
That Mitt was stronger in this part of the state and Huck better off in evangelical-heavy western Iowa was known even before the votes for cast. It wasn't just religion — Romney had worked eastern Iowa hard and had a good base of support there.
But the correlation between Huck's losses and Catholic counties is so precise that it can't be completely ignored. Catholics in places like Dubuque, Iowa, are just as anti-abortion as Huck. But did they not go for his overt emphasis on faith?
Keep an eye on Macomb County, Mich., just outside of Detroit, next Tuesday and we'll know the answer.
(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...
McCain is a RINO. That trumps everything else.
haha...That’s good
That might hurt me, but it came from you who called Mormonism a cult, so I guess I will be okay. Honestly wrestling with you is like wrestling with an unarmed man.
Do Catholics make Huckabee uncomfortable?
Oh, save your infantile “your just scared” replies for another day.
You represent less than 1% of the Republican party. You’d probably be a lot more comfortable in the Democrat party.
Huck has a conservative problem. He isn’t one.
Huck, an evangelical Christian tax-and-spend soft-on-crime RINO, would and should be running behind Duncan Hunter, a true evangelical Christian conservative. Maybe its the MSM. May its his rhetorical skills, he has a Clintonesque way. But I think anyone not under the spell of “He’s one of us so let’s vote for him”, can recognize from his record - he’s NOT a conservative.
For example:
I believe in Christian mercy, but Huck thoroughly abused his pardon authority as Governor, releasing *a dozen* of convicted killers and *hundreds* of convicted felons. A record out of line with former Governors, with neighboring states, and with common sense.
http://www.arkansasleader.com/frontstories/st_08_11_04/huckabee8.html
Other governors use their clemency power only rarely, while Huckabee has made it routine. As we’ve told you before, he has issued more than 700 pardons and commutations during his eight years in office – more than 137 this year alone – and more than his three predecessors combined.
___ Here are the figures for neighboring states since 1996, when Huckabee took office (and keep in mind the population of these states is nearly 20 times ours):
___ >> Louisiana – 213.
___ >> Mississippi – 24.
___ >> Missouri – 79.
___ >> Oklahoma – 178.
___ >> Tennessee – 32.
___ >> Texas – 98 (in-cludes 36 inmates released because they were convicted on drug charges with planted evidence).
___ Total: 624 vs. Huckabee’s 703.
___ Governors in neighboring states almost never grant killers clemency, while Huckabee has commuted the sentences of a dozen murderers.
They are taking their own holier than jesus approach that they and only they are the way and are railroading anyone else who gets in the way in an untactful and brutal way...and are doing so particularly regarding religion.
Catholics know what its like and call it for what it is. Its wrong to do that to a Catholic. Its wrong to do that to a Jew, and its wrong to do that to a Latter day Saint.
I will vote against the competition amongst churches every single time.
There is no way I will support huck in the general election and there is no way I will empower those people who support huck for the exact reasons mentioned above.
Mike "Jimma Carta" Huckabee...
Jaysum is a narrowminded person.
Maybe it is the company he keeps.
Good Post.
I will not vote for Huck no matter what.
I can easily vote Thompson, and possibly McCain... but as for now Mitt is my man.
Basically, anyone who doesn't accept their dogmatic worldview is either a second-class Christian or a cult. Deciding who to assign to hell or merely second-class Christian status may vary slightly based on who you talk to. Not so much different than the Lieberal State Church in this aspect.
It strikes me as a pretty short-sighted way to build a winning coalition in politics when p*ssing on those who have theological differences seems to be more important than fighting those who want to take away our God-given freedoms and our heads. The older I get, the less patient I grow with these types.
The evangelicals on FR will tell you flat out that Catholics are going straight to hell.
The question is how much do you like his tax-hiking nanny-statism that’s he’s wrapped in his Christian faith?
Let’s start with his policies ...
Like supporting a Federal smoking ban:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl81Pq4aOOo
Like raising taxes and not apologizing for it, embracing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APK67ThUEYQ&feature=related
“According to the Democrat-Gazette, “the average Arkansan’s tax burden grew from $1,969 in the fiscal year that ended June 30, 1997, to $2,902 in the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2005, including local taxes,” a whopping tax increase of 47% under Huckabee’s tenure. Tax legislation passed while Huckabee was governor totaled “a net tax increase of $505 million, a figure adjusted for inflation and economic growth,” according to the Arkansas Department of Finance and Administration.”
His tax hikes included:
* Signed a sales tax hike in 1996 (Cato Policy Analysis No. 315, 09/03/98).
* Supported an internet sales tax in 2001 (Reuters, 02/23/04).
* Publicly opposed the repeal of a sales tax on groceries and medicine in 2002 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 09/11/02).
* Signed a gas tax in 1999 (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 06/29/99)
* Signed cigarette tax hike in 2003 (Americans for Tax Reform 01/07/07)
* Signed a bed tax on private nursing home patients in 2001 (Associated Press 06/29/01).
* Proposed a sales take hike in 2002 (Arkansas News Bureau 12/05/02).
* Opposed a congressional measure to ban internet taxes in 2003 (Arkansas News Bureau 11/21/03).
* Allowed a 17% sales tax increase to become law in 2004 (The Gurdon Times 03/02/04).
Then there is Huckabee’s commutation and pardon spree... over 700 convicted felons had commuted sentences a number far far higher than the rate of other states or other governors.
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Then there is how Huckabee will use his Christian credentials as a prop inappropriately in political debates.
Huckabee’s ‘drank different Jesus juice’ in opposition to the illegal aliens bill: http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html
“Huckabee, also a Republican and a Baptist minister, said Arkansans should be welcoming hard-working immigrants of all races. He singled out Holt, who often talks of his strong Christian beliefs, saying, “I drink a different kind of Jesus juice.”
Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”... http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html
“Even if benefits to people who are in the U.S illegally could be stopped, “I don’t understand how a practicing Christian can turn his back on a child from this or any other state,” Huckabee said.”
A big Government tax-hiking nanny-state “Christian leader” is someone who could easily abuse his religious beliefs on behalf of a non-spiritual/earthly political agenda.
This is less about like him or not like him. the question is: should we fear such politics of appropriating Jesus on behalf of such a non-conservatives big Govt tax-and-spend nanny-state soft-on-crime agenda? Couching such liberal policies in Christian terms makes them even worse, as they are less amenable to rational discussion. After all, is he going to call you “unChristian” if you disagree?
LOL, I just posted about the bigots like you on FR.
BTW, protestants call us Roman Catholics. We call ourselves Catholics.
I call myself Roman Catholic. Of course, I have a Russian Orthodox parent and an Eastern Orthodox parent (both RC converts long ago).
Nail hits head. You said it more concisely and correctly than I could have. I oppose Huckabee because he is the least conservative and least qualified candidate in the race, not because of his wearing his religion on his sleeve. However, he is running on evangelical identity politics, and any Catholic should be super-wary of what strange bedfellows they are buying into with that.
"Protestants should vote for Protestants." - Rev Tim Rude, Huckabee supporter, August, 2007
I will try my best to respond politely to a lying scum such as yourself who posts nonsense drivel.
If you want to know Mormon doctrine and belief, we believe that almost all church's have some measure of truth that is taught in them. Some have more than others and some less than others but that all will in the end end up learning a thing or two, including Mormons.
9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. ---Article of Faith #9
Mormons do not deny that truths are taught in other churches.
As for the Jesus part that is a sheer and outright lie on your part. Your idiotic post needs to get you banned for inciting and attacking.
It is a lie and you are a liar for posting such trash. Liar liar liar! That is what you are. Now retract your post.
That is about as polite as I will get with ilk like you who lie about my church and my religion.
I will not retract my post. Mormonism is a cult. And a rather shallow one at that. Sorry Charlie.
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