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Own A Ford? Ford Doesn't Think So.
Special to Free Republic ^ | 12 Jan 2008 | Spktyr

Posted on 01/12/2008 6:01:31 PM PST by Spktyr

Own a Ford product? Ford doesn't agree.

Once we've paid for a car and driven it off the dealership lot, most people believe that you own that car. You have all rights and privileges of ownership, nobody but you (and the bank, perhaps) can determine what you do with it. Or, so we thought.

Ford Motor Company recently decided to go after two car clubs, the "Black Mustang Club" and the "Rice Haters' Club" for various trademark and copyright infringements. In both cases, the clubs had put out an annual calendar, featuring photos of members' cars, some of which were Fords. Ford proceeded to get the calendars' publication stopped on the grounds that they owned the images. Yes, even though the cars are privately owned and non-Ford photographers took the pictures, Ford claims that it owns all rights to any vehicle they have ever produced.

Black Mustang Club Thread

Rice Haters' Club Thread

As you can read in the above threads, Ford has gone after these clubs and others for no apparent reason. In the past, Ford has prosecuted companies that produced parts for Ford products, or who had the name of a Ford product in their name. Going after clubs and forums and by extension, Ford owners is a new and frightening low in Ford's behavior.

When asked for comment, a Ford spokesperson refused, saying it involved pending litigation and referred us to the legal department.

The only conclusion that one can draw from this action is that Ford believes that *they* own your cars, not you, and that you have merely paid Ford for the privilege of driving it.


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KEYWORDS: automakers; doyoureallyownit; ford; fordmotor; intellectualproperty; negativepublicity; youhavenorights
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Please, no discussion of the AFA boycott or Ford's support for homosexuals. We already have a billion threads for that; this is actually far more serious. Ford apparently does not believe that once you have bought and paid for your car you have complete control over it. They believe that they can tell you what you can do with pictures of *your* car, or more properly, *their* car.

How's that for a "Bold Move"?

1 posted on 01/12/2008 6:01:32 PM PST by Spktyr
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To: Admin Moderator

I think this belongs in news, but I may be wrong. Please move and/or edit accordingly.


2 posted on 01/12/2008 6:02:16 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Threatening to sue one’s most zealous customers over images of their cars is a pretty stupid way of doing business...


3 posted on 01/12/2008 6:06:00 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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A lot of corporations are going into the "we own the rights to all the images" schtick. Lots of modelmakers have been shafted when big corps have gone after them for daring to make a scale model of the big corporation's product.

Stupid, stupid, stupid people.

The legal departments (or at LEAST the marketing departments) ought to realize that this kind of thing is the BEST KIND of FREE publicity they can possibly get.

5 posted on 01/12/2008 6:06:40 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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I used to be a Ford man, having owned a 1986 Mustang GT, a 1991 Lincoln Mark VII and several others. No more!


6 posted on 01/12/2008 6:07:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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Smart move, crack down on a bunch of Ford enthusiasts. Remind me not to hire the Ford PR guy.


7 posted on 01/12/2008 6:08:12 PM PST by Always Right
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Chrysler did the same thing with the Wrangler, intentionally designing it to be more difficult to modify or customize. Do they even understand why people buy the cars?
8 posted on 01/12/2008 6:08:39 PM PST by benjamin032
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What if your Ford gets photographed by a red light camera....will Ford Motors sue the cops?


9 posted on 01/12/2008 6:08:47 PM PST by capt. norm (Those who think logically provide a nice contrast to the real world.)
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To: Spktyr

Batavia thinks you’re maybe just a bit paranoid this evening....warm milk helps.


10 posted on 01/12/2008 6:08:58 PM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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Trademarks like the Ford Pony emblem (stolen from Ferrari) have legal protection from copying.

Photographing products *without* their trademarks is out of Ford’s realm (so just pop off the emblems and click away with your cameras, clearly Ford doesn’t want you advertising their crappy cars in any manner in public).


11 posted on 01/12/2008 6:10:19 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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No, I don’t think so. When Ford tells the people “we only let our sanctioned clubs make photos and publish them, and you’re not sanctioned and never will be” (read the second link above), there’s a HUGE problem.


12 posted on 01/12/2008 6:10:41 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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I used to like Ford. The last car I bought was not a Ford because of the item we aren’t supposed to mention. This just seals the deal for me.


13 posted on 01/12/2008 6:11:57 PM PST by driftdiver
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Ford Legal had a picture of a CHRYSLER pulled off, specifically.

They’re even claiming copyrights that aren’t theirs. And they also claimed copyright on cars that didn’t have any visible Ford logos.

Their logic is that “it is instantly recognizable as a Ford, so we have control over the image”.


14 posted on 01/12/2008 6:12:11 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Real simple solution. Just contact all the car journals and magazines and get them on your side. Have the editors send notification they will no longer accept articles dealing with Ford due to threats of litigation.


15 posted on 01/12/2008 6:13:05 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Ford hasn’t gotten in the boat they are in without making a lot of dumb decisions.


16 posted on 01/12/2008 6:13:11 PM PST by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: driftdiver

Thank you for not going there, I didn’t want the discussion sidetracked.

Yeah, this is rather more disturbing, IMHO. Now they’re actively going after people.


17 posted on 01/12/2008 6:13:14 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Microsoft thinks it owns your computer if you have a microsoft product on your hard drive. They have been pretty direct about that with XP and especially Vista. They reserve the right to do anything that strikes their fancy to the contents of your hard drive.


18 posted on 01/12/2008 6:14:45 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I’ll pass that along to those who are under the gun but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Ford’s *Marketing* division spends an awful lot of money.


19 posted on 01/12/2008 6:15:07 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Its working for the MPAA % RIAA /sarcasm


20 posted on 01/12/2008 6:15:35 PM PST by packrat35 (Politicians would be less worthless if they were edible, or useable for packing wheel bearings.)
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