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Muhammad's Tribe (the true history of Islam's suppression of conquered nations and people)
National Post (Canada) ^ | Janary 10, 2008 | Philip Carl Salzman

Posted on 01/13/2008 8:08:44 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o

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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks you for that website Mrs. Don-o.
I forgot to capture it. You are a blessing.

—Jo—


21 posted on 01/13/2008 2:53:46 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: G8 Diplomat
Imam Hussein (the third one; grandson of Imam Ali, the son-in-law of Mohammed, I think)

Actually I just looked it up and Abu Bakr, Mohammed's father-in-law, was the first caliph, and Ali, Mohammed's son-in-law, is actually the fourth (but to Shiites he is regarded as the rightful first caliph). Hussein is Ali's son, which would make him the fifth imam, but I could've sworn I read on some article here that he was the third....oh well.

Sheesh!
22 posted on 01/13/2008 3:08:15 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: G8 Diplomat

“But remember folks, Arabs are not the problem; Islam is. If it were not for Islam, the Arabs could be Christian for all we know. Christian missionaries could’ve eventually made it over to the Middle East and civilized the Arabs and converted them. Who knows?”

Actually, we tried taking back the lands conquered by the Muslims, remember the Crusades? Those “evil” Crusades where the Christians were the bad guys for having tried to get the holy lands back that had been taken from them by Muslim Jihad. Those Crusades that the Christian haters now portray as an invasion without merit, totally disregarding the invasion that took place initially wherein the whole Middle East was conquered by the scimitar. The Crusades which some Christians still to this day feel they have to apologize for. But the initial takeover of the holy lands by force by the Muzzies is just peachy keen, don’t ya know. Geez....


23 posted on 01/13/2008 3:09:58 PM PST by flaglady47
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To: Madame Dufarge
At the Catholic church at my university there is a map on the wall and you can stick a pin into the country where you are from. There were pins in Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Jordan. Christian Arabs (and Persians) are out there...in fact, about 35% of the population of the UAE is Christian (most are foreign workers from places like Pakistan or Bangladesh though). Saudi Arabia actually has a higher percentage of Christians than Japan...3% in SA, 1% in Japan. I think Turkey has about 2%, and Iraq has lots of Christians...don't know the exact number, but there are a fair amount of them there.
24 posted on 01/13/2008 3:12:38 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: flaglady47
What about the Crusades? I agree with you with what you're saying about them, but my point is that the Arabs involved there were Muslim Arabs, and as I said, it is Islam that keeps Arab society so brutal and oppressive, not the Arabs themselves. If Arabs were Christian (and some are), they would not have such screwed up societies.
25 posted on 01/13/2008 3:15:43 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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To: flaglady47

Actually, we tried taking back the lands conquered by the Muslims, remember the Crusades?

I meant Christian missionaries could have successfully converted the Arabs either before Mohammed of if Mohammed had never created Islam and had the Arabs never embraced Islam. Once they take hold of that religion, it's tough for someone to pry them away from it, because if you leave Islam you'd be killed by your own family if they got the chance.
26 posted on 01/13/2008 3:18:05 PM PST by G8 Diplomat (Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
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Can’t this writer be prosecuted in Canada for this article?


27 posted on 01/13/2008 3:22:24 PM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

So they are a bunch of violent savages bent on dominating the world. And why are they not expelled from civilized countries?


28 posted on 01/13/2008 3:28:30 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: flaglady47

The Crusades were as defensive as the invasion of Normandy. Trying to get a beachhead in order to take back a captive continent that had been conquered by force.


29 posted on 01/13/2008 3:33:55 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (My contribution to reality-based argument.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

You’re asking me?


30 posted on 01/13/2008 3:34:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (My contribution to reality-based argument.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
There is a very interesting article in yesterday's Wall Street Journal about "The Lost Archives". These were rolls of film which held photographic images of Koran through the ages. The study was to see if, in fact, the Koran of today is the same as it was when it was supposedly given to Mohammed directly from Allah. That is the claim of the fundamentalist Muslims, and those who don't adhere to that claim of the unchanging Koran were hoping to use the archives to prove their point. The Berlin Archive in which the film was stored was bombed by the Allies in WWII, and the man responsible for the Lost Archive claimed it was lost in the attack.

Turns out, he had them all along, and hid them at his house. After his death, earlier this decade, they were found, and are not being made available to a group of German scholars. Some are using false names in print because they're scared of reprisals by Muslims. It will be interesting to see what they find. Makes me wonder if their discoveries will be trumpeted with the fervor of those who reported on the Dead Sea Scrolls.

31 posted on 01/13/2008 5:55:30 PM PST by SuziQ
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Please post it. I’d like to read it.


32 posted on 01/13/2008 6:55:53 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Inquiring minds want to know.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It was in the print version. I’ll have to see if it’s online.


33 posted on 01/13/2008 9:01:02 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very interesting; thanks for posting this, Mrs. Don-o!


34 posted on 01/14/2008 4:49:24 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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Ping!


35 posted on 01/14/2008 4:52:12 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Islam was occultic from its beginnings. Doctrines of demons.


36 posted on 01/14/2008 10:19:25 AM PST by 444Flyer (You can call me crazy, it's still true...Acts 26, John 3:1-36, Isaiah 34, Rev 12:11, Jer 29:13-14)
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That’s the truth!


37 posted on 01/14/2008 10:38:00 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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To: fanfan

Not sure if this has already been posted, but here is a copy of the “complaint” and the response.
http://ezralevant.com/Soharwardy_complaint.pdf

http://ezralevant.com/Response_to_complaint.pdf


38 posted on 01/14/2008 3:15:42 PM PST by exg
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39 posted on 01/14/2008 10:13:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: Jo Nuvark

The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)?

Didn’t this actually start in ‘79?


40 posted on 01/14/2008 10:23:08 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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