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Will rising fuel costs spur public transit?
Press of Atlantic City ^ | 16 Jan 2008 | John Semmens

Posted on 01/18/2008 11:07:48 PM PST by John Semmens

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To: blackbart.223

I learned that line from a documentary about the London Blitz. This guy said, “You can get used to anything. ANYTHING!”


21 posted on 01/18/2008 11:47:44 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
“You can get used to anything. ANYTHING!”

I get it. Or at least I think I do.

22 posted on 01/18/2008 11:53:43 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: John Semmens
Hondas for Cadillacs

You could have picked a better analogy than that.....

23 posted on 01/18/2008 11:59:55 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: John Semmens

American economists who think US$3/gallon is expensive and will reduce consumption haven’t traveled abroad, some countries in Europe has had in inflation and time adjusted dollars, well over $3/gallon since the late 1990’s due to high VAT and enviro taxes on petrol.

The question is ‘when will the price of oil affect € and £ currency car owners in the wallet?’, then we’ll know what the actual inflection point has been reached.

Also, using margarine as an example in the first paragraph was intentional irony? The cost/quality of margarine is directly linked to the commodity price of corn, and the commodity price of corn is now being driven by the biofuel sector.


24 posted on 01/19/2008 12:02:42 AM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: John Semmens

No. “Public transit” meets the need of only a very few people. More oil now! Drill ANWAR, and the Gulf of Mexico now! Drill of the coasts NOW! And start building more nuke power plants immediately.


25 posted on 01/19/2008 12:05:43 AM PST by StormEye
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To: blackbart.223
I think I just watched them on NY's State of the State address. How pathetic. Spitzer is a dumbass whom promises jobs to everybody and education through Graduate School.

Pompous crowd applauds. Phhhttt

26 posted on 01/19/2008 12:07:11 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: dr_lew

Don’t forget you could only purchase gas 2 days a week.


27 posted on 01/19/2008 12:10:33 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress
" Spitzer is a dumbass."

No argument here.

28 posted on 01/19/2008 12:13:33 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223

It actually was the first time I’ve watched him. He was kissing some serious ass. I’m not acquainted with NY politics but none of the act I watched tonight represented anyone outside of that hall.


29 posted on 01/19/2008 12:18:43 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: eyedigress

The mood is good because of the cut in NYC property taxes and the rebate.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 12:20:32 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: eyedigress
"He was kissing some serious ass."

What politician doesn't. On that note I am off to bed.

31 posted on 01/19/2008 12:29:22 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: durasell

That is not good. Property tax should not be levied on residential homes to start with and giving people their tax money back just so Washington can tax it again is messed up. We have officially lost the pen war.


32 posted on 01/19/2008 12:31:30 AM PST by eyedigress
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To: John Semmens

Two truths about public transportation:

1) Liberals love it because they envision forcing YOU to take trains, subways and blight rail while THEY travel our less-congested roads; less congested because they taxed you into public transportation being all you can afford. Their transportation model is Beijing where the masses (YOU) have to pedal a bicycle while the elites (THEM) ride around in limos. That’s how liberals think.

2) In the South, particularly in the summer, mass transit will never work. Why? Because public transit never takes you where you want to go. It takes you a couple of blocks from where you want to go. By the time you’ve walked the final blocks, you have sweated through your clothes in 90-degree heat and 80-percent humidity. It takes just a day or two of that to decide you’d rather take your car.


33 posted on 01/19/2008 12:36:29 AM PST by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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No. Unless you live in one of the handful of American cities where such transportation is even feasible—NY, Chicago, Boston and maybe one or two others—it’s just not going to happen. We like to live in suburbs, in big houses with bigger lots. We like to shop in malls. We live far too spread apart to make public transport a good option for most of us.
34 posted on 01/19/2008 12:38:13 AM PST by Godwin1 (merican restaurant.)
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To: Tall_Texan
"It takes just a day or two of that to decide you’d rather take your car."

It doesn't even take me a minute or two. I jump into The Dodge Ram and off I go.

35 posted on 01/19/2008 12:42:19 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: durasell

When the ADDED Fee for a “Pizza Delivery” jumps to $5 or more, will you miss having a Car?

Or will you take the bus both ways, to getr your pie?


36 posted on 01/19/2008 12:48:25 AM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: John Semmens

Folks think buses and light rail are all the rage, until they have to sit next to some guy that just peed himself a couple of hours before, stinks to high heavens and hitting on the cutie sitting across the isle.

It’s great to talk about what you do in that situation, until you realize the guy is probably mental and hasn’t the faculties to care if he severely injurs you, her or it is he who goes to the E.R.

Yep, your car and $10 bucks per gallon will start looking quite reasonable after a few of those.

After my divorce, I had to bus it for a while. I saw enough to know that’s not my choice. My ten minute ride to work suddenly became 45 minutes to an hour, if I was lucky enough to catch the transfers, otherwise it could be an hour and a half.

Good times... Blah!


37 posted on 01/19/2008 12:49:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Tall_Texan

IMO, mass transit is akin to an incinerator to burn public funds.


38 posted on 01/19/2008 12:52:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Nope. Next!

Efficiency of transport (which is largely illusory) works best in urban areas, but even there more time has to be budgeted for getting to and from, leading to mass inefficiency.


39 posted on 01/19/2008 1:02:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: DoughtyOne

I went broke 4 years ago and have lived without a car in a very large city all this time. To top it off, I’m in very poor health now and can’t work - can barely walk.

Anyway, I rode the bus for two years to get basic things done, like banking and grocery shopping. It was hell. Then I had a run-in with some gangstas and swore “never again.”

So now, still completely destitute, I have to pay $30-$40 just to go by taxi the 6 mile round-trip to my PO Box for royalty checks and to my bank to deposit them - just once a month, obviously. That’s my food budget for a week, as I live on $100-$150 per month over my basics.

I don’t have any answers, that’s for sure. Except I may be the only person in the US *making* money on the oil price increases, not spending more.


40 posted on 01/19/2008 1:15:41 AM PST by Rte66
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