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Ron Paul, Featuring Special Guests "The Jew Haters"
Radar Magazine ^ | 1/18/08 | Nick Curran

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

In the stuffy world of politics, the Ron Paul campaign has earned the reputation of being something like a raucous, freedom-loving party. A raucous, freedom-loving party with lots of paranoid bigots. So it would probably be more surprising if the band reportedly headlining RonPaulapalooza didn't have a few teeny-tiny problems with the Jews, who they feel are trying to destroy everybody. The band Poker Face enjoys churning out a hard-chargin' "freedom rock" that they developed under the influence of Boston, the Beatles, and Frank Zappa, as well as a firm conviction that the Holocaust did not happen and that the Jews are in fact the lead agents of a "Satanic World Order."

And according to a notice sent out by RonPaulaplooza organizers, you can get yourself a taste when Poker Face (along with some "lesser-known bands") rocks the big event, now tentatively scheduled for the Fourth of July holiday weekend in Morehead, Kentucky. As of post time, organizers had not responded to Radar's anxious inquiries about the possible co-appearance of a sassy little slice of pizza known to sling some fairly dope rhymes about the Ron Paul revolution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemites; apaulogists; brownshirtsforpaul; endorsedbydu; goosesteppersforpaul; klankoncert; liberalsforpaul; nazirock; paulestinians; paulqaeda; paulsies; paultards; prussianblue; ronpaul; shrimpboatcaptain; stormfronthouseband; surrendernotsemites; thedailykoscandidate; whitesupremacists
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To: fortheDeclaration
Enough to like what he says most of the time. I have all his books, the best of which is probably "Man, Economy and State."

ROTHBARD'S BOOKS

What do you think?

81 posted on 01/19/2008 10:03:51 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“And you know what? When we who opppose Paul were talking issues, we were accused of the same sorts of things we are accused of now. I believe I was first accused of working for the Giuliani campaign in one of those threads...”

Doesn’t that “tell” you something?


82 posted on 01/19/2008 10:05:53 AM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Since that’s all you could respond to, you inherently yielded to the rest of the points. Time to ask the admin mod to pull the thread.

Actually, I posted what I posted because it succinctly encapsulated and refuted the gist of your arguments.

83 posted on 01/19/2008 10:06:03 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Something which you did not seem to get, so I will reiterate it once more, in hopes that you might understand.

I was not backing Paul, nor Stormfront, but the principle that any American citizen has the right to contribute to a campaign and to accept contributions, so long as there is no quid pro quo involved.

Furthermore, I attempted to make the point that a group backing a candidate doesn not mean the candidate backs the group, to wit: they can endorse him, without his accepting their donation meaning he endorses them.

For example, conservatives backed Bush (that lesser of evils crap again), and for that we got expanded government, the great Israel giveaway, no border control, no child left behind, numerous attempts at illegal alien amnesty, and a host of other crap. It is safe to say that he did not back us. The one notable exception to that was not an issue in play when he was first elected.

That basic principle, too seemed lost on you.

I am a Duncan Hunter supporter, not a Ron Paul supporter. I weary of repeating that fact for the dense or illiterate.

To say the least, I found the "Springtime for Hitler and Germany..." comment an odd ping, unless you were trying to imply that those you pinged were supportive of or members of the Nazis. Kindly do not pull that sh*t with me again. I am not now, nor have I ever been a sympathizer, supporter, nor a member of any Nazi organization, and the depths with which I resent that implication cannot be adequately expressed in a format which excludes profanity.

84 posted on 01/19/2008 10:07:14 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
“Do you want to deny other people their freedom to associate just because you disagree with their beliefs?”

The point that is being made over and over and over again is the large number (and proportion) of racists, conspiracy nuts, and general all-around wackos who go out of their way to support Paul. It doesn’t matter how much he personally associates with them, they associate with him and there is a reason. They see a candidate who helps their lunitic causes. You are judged by the company you keep.

Democrats get judged by the leftist groups who flock to sit in the Democrat shade. Paul will be judged by the large proportion of offensive people and groups that follow him.

85 posted on 01/19/2008 10:08:50 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: fortheDeclaration
I am amazed how many of those in FR think they able to decide who should be in the Party and who shouldn't.

I don't think it's up to me. I think it's up to the GOP as a whole whether we act like Ron Paul is a part of the party of Lincoln and Reagan, or whether we say, "David Duke claimed to be in the GOP, too."

86 posted on 01/19/2008 10:09:37 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Bush took the endorsement or at least met with Log Cabin Republicans. Bush is GAY!!!!!!


87 posted on 01/19/2008 10:10:02 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“To say the least, I found the “Springtime for Hitler and Germany...” comment an odd ping, unless you were trying to imply that those you pinged were supportive of or members of the Nazis. Kindly do not pull that sh*t with me again. I am not now, nor have I ever been a sympathizer, supporter, nor a member of any Nazi organization, and the depths with which I resent that implication cannot be adequately expressed in a format which excludes profanity.”

Well said.


88 posted on 01/19/2008 10:11:05 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: blackbart.223

“Paul took the money. If you go to bed with dogs you wake up with fleas.”

Not one comment about Fred and his buddy/client (he represented him for free - must be buddies!) Aristide from you or the other bashers.

Why so quiet?


89 posted on 01/19/2008 10:11:49 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Isn't it though? I had one of the Paulestinians go round and round with me, trying to prove to me that giving Black back his money made him richer. Even when I posted an equation ($500 - $500 + $500 = $500) showing it to not be the case, he said giving Black his money would be like making a donation to Stormfront."

I guess the bottom line is it's a waste of time to argue with fools.

But it is fun

Bart

90 posted on 01/19/2008 10:11:51 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: blackbart.223; Mr. Silverback

“I guess the bottom line is it’s a waste of time to argue with fools. But it is fun.”

That’s exactly why we argue with you fools. ;)


91 posted on 01/19/2008 10:15:13 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
"Not one comment about Fred and his buddy/client (he represented him for free - must be buddies!) Aristide from you or the other bashers."

Correct me if I'm wrong but I have not stated a preference for anyone on this thread. You are beginning to sound like a scratched record.

92 posted on 01/19/2008 10:15:34 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You know deep down these groups aren't representative of Paul's support as a whole.

I don't need to go deep down to realize that. I know these people are a fraction of his support. But I also know that his support among them appears to be monolithic. If every gun control organization in America was behind, say, Mike Huckabee, we'd wonder what they were expecting to get out of it, wouldn't we? And the fact that most of his supporters are pro-2nd Amendment wouldn't change that dynamic.

Paul has a lot of support from Main Street America. You and the GOP ignore these new and previously apathetic voters at your own peril.

If the only way the GOP can survive is to pander to people who believe in coddling Islamofascists, it's time for the GOP to die.

93 posted on 01/19/2008 10:18:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: blackbart.223

” Correct me if I’m wrong but I have not stated a preference for anyone on this thread. You are beginning to sound like a scratched record.”

I said bashers, not Fred supporters.

For a so-called professional writer, you sure have terrible reading comprehension.

Did you get a journalism degree? I recommend requesting a refund.


94 posted on 01/19/2008 10:18:35 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
[I am amazed how many of those in FR think they able to decide who should be in the Party and who shouldn't.]

I don't think it's up to me. I think it's up to the GOP as a whole whether we act like Ron Paul is a part of the party of Lincoln and Reagan, or whether we say, "David Duke claimed to be in the GOP, too."

The voters are able to decide on David Duke, who did run as a Republican.

Didn't Duke renounce his KKK past?

There is alot of throwing around the words 'racism' and anti-semite' without any context or proof on these threads.

Those are very serious labels that one ought to be very careful in using against someone.

95 posted on 01/19/2008 10:18:58 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: blackbart.223

SOrry it’s Silverslack who is the so-called professional writer.

You’re just dopey.


96 posted on 01/19/2008 10:19:17 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
"That’s exactly why we argue with you fools. ;)"

Aren't you original. Come up with your own punchline.

97 posted on 01/19/2008 10:19:58 AM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“If the only way the GOP can survive is to pander to people who believe in coddling Islamofascists, it’s time for the GOP to die.”

Well then it’s time for it to die.

Bush is coddling the Palestinian terrorists and offering them half of Jerusalem on a platter.

At the same time, he’s coming for our guns.

How conservative!


98 posted on 01/19/2008 10:20:26 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blackbart.223

“Aren’t you original. Come up with your own punchline.”

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves!


99 posted on 01/19/2008 10:21:59 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Proud2BeRight
The point that is being made over and over and over again is the large number (and proportion) of racists, conspiracy nuts, and general all-around wackos who go out of their way to support Paul.

You apparently do not realize that Dr. Paul believes that freedom is for everyone, regardless of what they believe in. He has said that he does not endorse their viewpoints and that they should use their freedom wisely, but he's not going to tell people what to do. Wow. Imagine that. Finally, a politician who'll leave you alone.

It doesn’t matter how much he personally associates with them, they associate with him and there is a reason. They see a candidate who helps their lunitic causes. You are judged by the company you keep.

Those who support Paul don't care. We know that Paul isn't a racist kook or is in bed with white supremacists. This issue is being fabricated by people who have a vested interest in maintaining the status-quo. It is also being hashed to death by people who aren't going to support Paul anyway. You want Paul to have his "Macaca" moment and break down like George Allen did and it just ain't happening. If he apologized profusely, you'd still say he was a racist nut. So why should he even bother?

100 posted on 01/19/2008 10:24:43 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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