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Giuliani Vows To Send NASA Back to Moon
orlandosentinel.com ^ | Jan 18, 2008 | Robert Block

Posted on 01/19/2008 9:20:07 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

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To: Deo volente
The Moon??? That’s so 70’s...BORING!
Been there, done that, nothing there.


Within a decade or two, the Chinese will be there. To stay - on a permanently manned base. So will the Russians, the Indians, and a bunch of other nations. So will we - even if there were nothing there, we wouldn't let the Chinese and the others claim that nothing for themselves.

I think Fred ought to come out tomorrow and call for sending a man to Mars.

I hope all the candidates will be serious about funding a manned expedition to Mars, but Mars is a long ways away and the Moon is right here, with conceivable military potential and a much shallower gravity well than Earth to launch Mars missions.
21 posted on 01/19/2008 9:52:04 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ajay_kumar

It’s not about rocks.

The nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.


22 posted on 01/19/2008 9:52:42 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Oh yeah. THATS what we need to spend money on.


23 posted on 01/19/2008 9:54:16 PM PST by annelizly
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To: annelizly

I am no Rudy fan by any stretch. Been fighting hard for Thompson.

And yeah Rudy is pandering.

BUT..

Again.......The nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.

“You have to keep pushing the frontier not just because it’s there, but because that’s how we find things that end up changing humanity,” -Paul Hill, Mission Control


24 posted on 01/19/2008 9:56:22 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.


25 posted on 01/19/2008 9:57:32 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.


26 posted on 01/19/2008 9:57:39 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Doesn’t NASA have a timetable that is forecast way past the next decade? Bush already pimped the Mars missions. Must get those subcontracting machine shops working again!
27 posted on 01/19/2008 9:57:45 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

The Moon? What the heck does that have to do with 9/11?


28 posted on 01/19/2008 9:57:59 PM PST by stormer
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To: LachlanMinnesota

“Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.”

Then America will descend into global irrelevancy. Like many european nations.

No thanks.


29 posted on 01/19/2008 9:59:50 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“Within a decade or two, the Chinese will be there. To stay - on a permanently manned base. So will the Russians, the Indians, and a bunch of other nations. So will we - even if there were nothing there, we wouldn’t let the Chinese and the others claim that nothing for themselves.”

THe “high ground” critically matters.

And it advance our nation in many ways when we reach far.

I wish more freepers understood that.

I am often surprised that many do not.


30 posted on 01/19/2008 10:03:23 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
...the Moon is right here, with conceivable military potential and a much shallower gravity well than Earth to launch Mars missions.


Well, I hadn't thought about that. OK, it's the Moon then!
31 posted on 01/19/2008 10:04:21 PM PST by Deo volente
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Nations that take care of their people first, need not lead the world. My platitude sounds better than your platitude.

By Nations I assume you mean governments, correct?

If so, you could not be more wrong.

That would appear at first blush to be socialism my friend, and we just spent a century proving how wrong that type of sentiment really is!
32 posted on 01/19/2008 10:04:55 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Good grief, what a pandering loser.


33 posted on 01/19/2008 10:05:04 PM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." --Mitt Romney)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

We will descend into global irrelevancy if we do not go to the moon? Really?

Do you mean going to the moon will save us from the amoral abyss into which we are falling? You can’t be serious! It is more likely to give us bread and circuses to keep us from rioting for another day.

We are already descending into irrelevancy, and going to the moon will not change any aspect of that.

In fact, overextending the tax burden on the US taxpayers is more likely to send us into irrelevancy than any benefit we would get from going back to the moon again.

How exactly will it make us more relevant?

All this effort is intended to do it to provide cover for the various black projects that the government is involved in, most of which have no meaningful public scrutiny...

But of course, this is just my opinion.


34 posted on 01/19/2008 10:11:15 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Not if we send Rudy back to NY first.


35 posted on 01/19/2008 10:12:17 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: SoConPubbie

You are missing my pint on purpose, I believe. My point is that without a definite defined goal in mind, this is a massive waste of effort for a few to have an emotional high to put a few lines in our textbooks.

It has nothing to do with political beliefs. It has everything to do with a cost benefit approach to spending taxpayers’ money, using budgets taht are not fully visible to public scrutiny.


36 posted on 01/19/2008 10:14:46 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Rooty & algore, go up on our next unmanned rocket.


37 posted on 01/19/2008 10:17:14 PM PST by Waco
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Again,

the nations that lead on the frontier, dictate the course of human history.

Astronaut Story Musgrave.....

“We have been a frontier culture. We were born out of exploration, we were born out of adventure. We were born out of the plains and the mountains. We’ve been a very physical kind of culture. And so, if you look at adventure, if you look at exploration, if you look at immersion in nature, a physical culture, and all those things, you can see directly how space flight relates to the way America has been born and how it evolved.”


38 posted on 01/19/2008 10:20:06 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

ron paul is probably vowing to send NASA to the moon for the first time.

hahahahahahahahaha

seriously though, send NASCAR to the moon


39 posted on 01/19/2008 10:28:14 PM PST by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, people, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Do you write for Star Trek? Sounds like a paraphrase of the opening which refers to seeking out new worlds, to go where no man has gone before.

These are all fine sentiments, but I have yet to hear anything that makes me think there is a good reason to do so now. Even the early explorers had financial backers who expected some very specific things as a result of their effort. Even if it was a risk, there was a clear goal in mind.

What budget do you seek for this nebulous warm fuzzy feeling about being a race of explorers? Would one trillion dollars over twenty years make us trailblazers again?

Most people in our society have never been explorers, and in fact most of those going west to settle it, were malcontents and unsuccessful in their lives, and they sought new opportunities. Where are the opportunities for a guy like me on the moon?

Unless you work for NASA, I can see none.

However, if you can give me an idea to pursue, that has some merit, then I might support it.

Again, if you removed the entries really going to the black budget for new weapons technology, what would it really cost?

40 posted on 01/19/2008 10:37:48 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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