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Giuliani Vows To Send NASA Back to Moon
orlandosentinel.com ^ | Jan 18, 2008 | Robert Block

Posted on 01/19/2008 9:20:07 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares

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To: Names Ash Housewares

I guess he has the Ralph Kramdon vote locked.


41 posted on 01/19/2008 10:40:52 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: FoxInSocks
Giant Pander Alert!

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42 posted on 01/19/2008 10:42:05 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
It has everything to do with a cost benefit approach to spending taxpayers’ money, using budgets taht are not fully visible to public scrutiny.

Too bad all the worse-than-useless "social" programs can't be held to the same standard.

NASA does have its own problems, like any organization, but it's worse because it's a government bureaucracy.

43 posted on 01/19/2008 10:43:54 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

I’d like to see every program in every department of government have to justifuy their continued existence every year (or all right, every two years). They would have to show that clearly definable goals hare being met, and if not, the program is not reauthorized.

It would give an incentive to the bureaucratic minions to do some actual good, rather than writing reports demanding more money.


44 posted on 01/19/2008 10:48:11 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Ah, but with social programs, they justify their existence and growth by not fixing problems. In fact the bigger the perceived problem, the more money they get to create more social problems.

It's the union equivalent of "Don't Kill the Job".

Not that I think social problems can be eliminated, but at the very least, they shouldn't encourage poverty, dependency, and anti-social behavior.

At least the big science endeavors have a goals.

45 posted on 01/19/2008 11:01:23 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Names Ash Housewares

” I am convinced that the nations that lead on the frontiers, dictate the course of human history.
I hope ALL the candidates will support NASA and vision for space exploration as strongly as this.”

Oh, I agree with your sentiment. But I disagree that NASA is the way to get it done. Open it to competition. Privatize. That’s the way to innovation. I’m having a hard time thinking of many successful NASA projects in the last few years, and those that HAVE been successful aren’t anywhere near on the scale of shooting for the moon. It’s a mess.


46 posted on 01/19/2008 11:25:35 PM PST by COgamer
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I have a better idea: Privatize space flight, take a tiny fraction of the taxpayer money that would be saved, to build a wall from Tijuana to the Gulf Coast, and give the rest back to the taxpayers to invest, say, in the new companies that will be doing a better job of building rockets than the government can do.


47 posted on 01/19/2008 11:28:44 PM PST by Hunton Peck (A fool and his money are soon parted, preferably before he can give it to some liberal candidate.)
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To: COgamer

We may never live in an age without human presence in space.
The space station passes over our heads everyday.
NASA has indeed accomplished much, even after Apollo.
not all of it sexy. But learning how to construct in orbit is important we learn by doing, and by making mistakes too.

But think of the twin Mars rovers and orbiters, Hubble, Galileo at Jupiter, Cassini at Saturn now. Asteroid and comet fly bys. Probes to study the sun. NASA does so much that the public isnt very aware of.

Private industry will play its part, I was a supportor of the X-prize.

But as a nation, it is all together appropriate we do these things as well.

There is a military benefit too obviouly.
Shuttle did fly secret to this day defense missions.


48 posted on 01/19/2008 11:33:26 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: B Knotts
Many of us would like to see Giuliani sent to the moon, McCain, too!

HA! ....while your at it send $hrillary, too! POW! "straight to the moon!" (George Cramden-Jackie Gleeson :)

$he always wanted to be the first *itch on the moon.

49 posted on 01/19/2008 11:40:08 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, FRed, Run. :^)
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To: claudiustg

“Many of us would like to see Giuliani sent to the moon, McCain, too!”

Yes, Rudy and McCain are the very worst!!

Southern Baptist leader, Dr. Richard Land, said that if Rudy gets the nomination, the Dem candidate will win, because religious conservatives won’t vote for Rudy.


50 posted on 01/19/2008 11:54:09 PM PST by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
The military can contract with private companies, the same way it does for conventional projects. In fact, NASA just adds an extra layer of bureaucracy between DoD and its contractors.

(BTW, isn't it great that Rudy's such a fiscal conservative, to make up for his social liberalism? < /sarc >)

51 posted on 01/20/2008 12:14:54 AM PST by Hunton Peck (Fred. Accept no substitute.)
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To: stormer
The Moon? What the heck does that have to do with 9/11?

Both are surrounded by conspiracy theories.

52 posted on 01/20/2008 12:21:11 AM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Rudy can take a flying **** at the moon.
53 posted on 01/20/2008 12:25:18 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

American voters plan to send the greasy Mayor back to Yankee Stadium...


54 posted on 01/20/2008 12:37:47 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Within a decade or two, the Chinese will be there. To stay - on a permanently manned base. So will the Russians, the Indians, and a bunch of other nations. So will we - even if there were nothing there, we wouldn't let the Chinese and the others claim that nothing for themselves.

Exactly. Luna is the high ground. Defensively speaking, we would be foolish to let the Chinese perch up there above us without having a presence ourselves. Ever read THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS? The novel is dated in some ways, but Heinlein was right about one thing -- whoever is up there can easily thrown rocks at the Earth. Big ones.

That's not the sort of thing you can say to the great unwashed, because they'll just think you're being paranoid. But the forward-thinking leaders are well aware of this issue, mark my words.

55 posted on 01/20/2008 1:41:23 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Giuliani Vows To Send NASA Back to Moon

He'll just buy the dumb hippies that run NASA a couple tickets on the Chinese rocket lay off all the engineers and enjoy the great outsourcing dividend, while acknowledging that Chinese communists have always been smarter than us arrogant Americans. ....Oh wait that's Hillary's plan.

56 posted on 01/20/2008 2:27:24 AM PST by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Why???


57 posted on 01/20/2008 3:00:01 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number 1 FredHead)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Isn’t NASA’s headquarters in TEXAS? If so, wouldn’t Texas be the center of the United States’ space program?


58 posted on 01/20/2008 3:02:24 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I am for this but not at the predicted cost of $100 billion. This is considerably less than the first time around, adjusted for inflation, but we should be able to do much better.
I have thought for 50 years that NASA was putting the cart before the horse in spending its money for various costly operations rather than first developing a genuinely economical launch system.
In fact, given the relative success of recent private efforts, and the maturity of the technology, I suspect that NASA’s new Orion/Ares project will be superceded by events before it ever gets off the ground.


59 posted on 01/20/2008 3:10:53 AM PST by atomic conspiracy (Rousing the blog-rabble since 9-11-01)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Personally wouldn't pick for the western world to lead.

Would have THE UNITED STATES lead.

If Europe and others want to develop their space capabilities, good for them. But they should be viewed as competitors every bit as much as Russia, China, and other 'non-westerners.'

60 posted on 01/20/2008 3:13:50 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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