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Senior Saudi prince offers Israel peace vision [Lays out terms of surrender]
YNet ^ | Jan. 20, 2008

Posted on 01/20/2008 6:05:24 AM PST by Alouette

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To: svcw
Normalize relations with Israel are you daft?

Do you honestly believe that an arab country wants Israel to even exists?
That's what the Saudis offered, full normalized relations with the pro-western arab states and Syria. Crazy innit?
21 posted on 01/20/2008 6:42:35 AM PST by ketsu
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To: trek

check out post 3. :p


22 posted on 01/20/2008 6:43:53 AM PST by ketsu
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To: Alouette

The Arabs want us to help them fight the Persians.


23 posted on 01/20/2008 6:44:49 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: ketsu

And you believe them - why?


24 posted on 01/20/2008 6:46:08 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alouette
"The Arab world, by the Arab peace initiative, has crossed the Rubicon from hostility towards Israel to peace with Israel and has extended the hand of peace to Israel, and we await the Israelis picking up our hand..."

(!)

"Throw ya hands in the air, and catch 'em like ya just don't care..."

25 posted on 01/20/2008 6:46:52 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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To: ketsu

A comprehensive deal sounds good for now. But, at some time in the future the Iranians will not be a threat, due to some internal event (change in regime) or external (war). At that point, I’d trust the Saudi’s to not being a threat to Israel. But the Syrians would be another story; Hezbollafied Lebanon perhaps too.


26 posted on 01/20/2008 6:47:47 AM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: svcw
And you believe them - why?
Because they're scared poopless of Iran and would rather lie by the pool with hookers drinking whisky?
27 posted on 01/20/2008 6:48:42 AM PST by ketsu
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To: ketsu

Ok, sorry, you win the prize


28 posted on 01/20/2008 6:52:46 AM PST by trek
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To: ketsu
"Hysterics aside"

Cheap argument, ketsu. That's a cheap way of thinking, too. Thinking that any argument that disagrees with your opinion is therefore "hysterical" (or any other such prejudicial term) is a sure way to stay ignorant.

29 posted on 01/20/2008 6:53:45 AM PST by bvw
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To: C210N
A comprehensive deal sounds good for now. But, at some time in the future the Iranians will not be a threat, due to some internal event (change in regime) or external (war). At that point, I’d trust the Saudi’s to not being a threat to Israel. But the Syrians would be another story; Hezbollafied Lebanon perhaps too.
Without Syria Hizbollah withers on the vine. No access to weapons. Syria has been trying to be a western client for ages(since the Clinton admin), they just want to do it on their terms(i.e. no silly things like democracy that would get rid of Alawi power). Syria is quickly losing influence, they risk becoming a western or Iranian protectorate.
30 posted on 01/20/2008 6:54:33 AM PST by ketsu
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To: Alouette

>> “We will start thinking of Israelis as Arab Jews rather than simply as Israelis,” <<

I am sure that the Israelis would just love to be “Arab Jews”, just like they enjoyed being German Jews.


31 posted on 01/20/2008 6:55:43 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: bvw
Cheap argument, ketsu. That's a cheap way of thinking, too. Thinking that any argument that disagrees with your opinion is therefore "hysterical" (or any other such prejudicial term) is a sure way to stay ignorant.
You didn't make an "argument". You made a paranoid assertion.
32 posted on 01/20/2008 6:55:48 AM PST by ketsu
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To: Alouette

You must remember that the Israeli’s and the Arabs value the bargining more than the actual completion of the deal.

In my view, the brgining has formally begun.

The Saudi’s have taken the process lead. Although we don’t really know what has transpired off stage in London Hotel suites.

It’ll take all of the mideast to defeat Iran. They either work together or die.

Iran is a deadly threat to all


33 posted on 01/20/2008 6:56:16 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: ketsu

Ri-i-i-ight.


34 posted on 01/20/2008 6:58:16 AM PST by bvw
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To: ketsu; Army Air Corps; jeffers

amen


35 posted on 01/20/2008 7:01:16 AM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs /Thompson/Netanyahu '08 / Yes you will vote against Clinton)
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To: bvw
Ri-i-i-ight.
Do some research to get a historical perspective. I'm just echoing my primary resource(Israeli policy planners). Syria's been reduced to a bit player and they're scrambling desperately to stay relevant and independent.
36 posted on 01/20/2008 7:01:55 AM PST by ketsu
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To: ketsu

Can you ever trust a Muslim, though? Isn’t deception one of their virtues?


37 posted on 01/20/2008 7:03:38 AM PST by farmer18th
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To: Alouette
"I was delighted to hear Prince Turki's description of the comprehensive nature of normalisation as he envisages it within the framework of the Arab peace initiative," Alpher said.

"His remarks should encourage us Israelis and Arabs to deepen and broaden the discussion of ways to reach a comprehensive peace, implement the Arab peace initiative and reach the kind of cooperation that his highness described."

God was so stupid to give us our own land, HE really didn't know what HE was doing, but your Allah ... now THERE'S a god we can trust.

38 posted on 01/20/2008 7:05:33 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ketsu

Non sequitor.


39 posted on 01/20/2008 7:05:55 AM PST by bvw
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To: farmer18th
Can you ever trust a Muslim, though? Isn’t deception one of their virtues?
I trust them to follow their own self-interest. The sooner they deal with the Palestinian and Iranian problems the sooner they can get back to lives of gilded debauchery.
40 posted on 01/20/2008 7:07:32 AM PST by ketsu
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