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SANDY BERGER MARC GROSSMAN UPDATE: FBI denies file exposing nuclear secrets theft
The Sunday Times ^ | January 20, 2008 | Chris Gourlay, Jonathan Calvert and Joe Lauria

Posted on 01/21/2008 10:00:33 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee

THE FBI has been accused of covering up a key case file detailing evidence against corrupt government officials and their dealings with a network stealing nuclear secrets.

The assertion follows allegations made in The Sunday Times two weeks ago by Sibel Edmonds, an FBI whistleblower, who worked on the agency's investigation of the network.

Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency's Washington field office.

She says the FBI was investigating a Turkish and Israeli-run network that paid high-ranking American officials to steal nuclear weapons secrets. These were then sold on the international black market to countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

One of the documents relating to the case was marked 203A-WF-210023. Last week, however, the FBI responded to a freedom of information request for a file of exactly the same number by claiming that it did not exist. But The Sunday Times has obtained a document signed by an FBI official showing the existence of the file.

Edmonds believes the crucial file is being deliberately covered up by the FBI because its contents are explosive. She accuses the agency of an "outright lie".

"I can tell you that that file and the operations it refers to did exist from 1996 to February 2002. The file refers to the counterintelligence programme that the Department of Justice has declared to be a state secret to protect sensitive diplomatic relations," she said.

The freedom of information request had not been initiated by Edmonds. It was made quite separately by an American human rights group called the Liberty Coalition, acting on a tip-off it received from an anonymous correspondent.

The letter says: "You may wish to request pertinent audio tapes and documents under FOIA from the Department of Justice, FBI-HQ and the FBI Washington field office."

It then makes a series of allegations about the contents of the file – many of which corroborate the information that Edmonds later made public.

Edmonds had told this newspaper that members of the Turkish political and diplomatic community in the US had been actively acquiring nuclear secrets. They often acted as a conduit, she said, for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan's spy agency, because they attracted less suspicion.

She claimed corrupt government officials helped the network, and venues such as the American-Turkish Council (ATC) in Washington were used as drop-off points.

The anonymous letter names a high-level government official who was allegedly secretly recorded speaking to an official at the Turkish embassy between August and December 2001.

It claims the government official warned a Turkish member of the network that they should not deal with a company called Brewster Jennings because it was a CIA front company investigating the nuclear black market. The official's warning came two years before Brewster Jennings was publicly outed when one of its staff, Valerie Plame, was revealed to be a CIA agent in a case that became a cause célèbre in the US.

The letter also makes reference to wiretaps of Turkish "targets" talking to ISI intelligence agents at the Pakistani embassy in Washington and recordings of "operatives" at the ATC.

Edmonds is the subject of a number of state secret gags preventing her from talking further about the investigation she witnessed.

"I cannot discuss the details considering the gag orders," she said, "but I reported all these activities to the US Congress, the inspector general of the justice department and the 9/11 commission. I told them all about what was contained in this case file number, which the FBI is now denying exists.

"This gag was invoked not to protect sensitive diplomatic relations but criminal activities involving US officials who were endangering US national security."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; brewsterjennings; duplicate; fbi; plame; sibeledmonds; spreadinglies; turkey
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Is this why Sandy Berger needed to destroy those documents? [Marc Grossman & Nuclear Espionage]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950281/posts
1 posted on 01/21/2008 10:00:35 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: maggief; Old Sarge; JamesP81; Madame Dufarge; American_Centurion; Perdogg; ParadigmLost; evets; ...
Edmonds had told this newspaper that members of the Turkish political and diplomatic community in the US had been actively acquiring nuclear secrets. They often acted as a conduit, she said, for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s spy agency, because they attracted less suspicion.

Huma Abedin bump - Huma Abedin's parents were born in what is now called Pakistan:

Huma Abedin & Hillary Clinton - Abedin Family Ties to Al-Qaeda
The Abedin family's mentor & benefactor is Defendant #97 in the World Trade Center lawsuit.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1924323/posts

Huma Abedin & Hillary Clinton - Who is Funding Huma Abedin's Lifestyle?
How did Huma Abedin purchase a $649,000 condo on an annual salary of no more than $28,000? How does Huma Abedin purchase Yves Saint Laurent, Oscar de la Renta, Catherine Malandrino, Charles Nolan, Prada, and Marc Jacobs on an annual salary of no more than $28,000?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1921983/posts

Is Huma Abedin an Agent of Saudi Intelligence?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1919649/posts


2 posted on 01/21/2008 10:01:29 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: RDTF

ping


3 posted on 01/21/2008 10:01:56 AM PST by Perdogg (Huckabee got his foreign policy from IHOP, McCain got his immigration policy from The Waffle House)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

bkmarking for later. /Thanks for the post.


4 posted on 01/21/2008 10:04:51 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Dup - already posted with the correct title

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956751/posts


5 posted on 01/21/2008 10:05:51 AM PST by RDTF
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; dixiechick2000

6 posted on 01/21/2008 10:07:15 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: RDTF

Right, but it needs to be properly linked [as I have done] for purposes of archiving via the Google spider.


7 posted on 01/21/2008 10:07:47 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

you can’t alter titles here


8 posted on 01/21/2008 10:08:34 AM PST by RDTF
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To: RDTF
What are you talking about?

I haven't altered the title.

Again, this is of fundamental importance: I have correctly linked the article and included the correct keywords [Sandy Berger & Marc Grossman & Huma Abedin] which are necessary for the article to be correctly archived at Google [or Yahoo or MSN] via their spiders.

I cannot overemphasize the importance of correctly linking & keywording these articles.

The various spiders and databases are our only hope [at this point] of getting this information distributed to people.

9 posted on 01/21/2008 10:11:36 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Sandy Berger isn't even mentioned in this article.  Try posting the correct article title next time and don't mislead people.
10 posted on 01/21/2008 10:13:22 AM PST by HawaiianGecko
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Appreciate the ping! What an interesting book this is all going to make someday ... someone needs to write this thing before the nation is completely lost in liberalism else it will never come to light. The democrats wouldn’t expose it since they’re neck deep in the treason, and there isn’t a pnadering liberal republican candidate who would upset the dems by exposing it ... unless Fred wins, this will get deep sixed to the average American. Bread and circuses is so effective don’tchaknow!


12 posted on 01/21/2008 10:27:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
One of the documents relating to the case was marked 203A-WF-210023. Last week, however, the FBI responded to a freedom of information request for a file of exactly the same number by claiming that it did not exist. But The Sunday Times has obtained a document signed by an FBI official showing the existence of the file.

Somebody is not telling the truth. I'd say the evidence is starting to point to well-placed, and well-protected, traitors.

13 posted on 01/21/2008 10:27:18 AM PST by mojito
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Thank you for starting this thread!
Very good information!
14 posted on 01/21/2008 10:29:24 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ..

Thanks KiDD.


15 posted on 01/21/2008 10:32:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 01/21/2008 10:49:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Sandy Berger’s sentence is finished this year. This guy should have been in federal prison for the rest of his life. “Dereliction of Duty” by Buzz Patterson, LTC Air Force (ret) is a must read about the Clintons.


17 posted on 01/21/2008 10:55:20 AM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
How did Huma Abedin purchase a $649,000 condo on an annual salary of no more than $28,000?

She's a really good futures trader.

18 posted on 01/21/2008 10:56:53 AM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Interesting...


19 posted on 01/21/2008 10:58:39 AM PST by jedward
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To: HawaiianGecko
Sandy Berger isn't even mentioned in this article. Try posting the correct article title next time and don't mislead people.

It's a continuing story; you need to do your homework:

Is this why Sandy Berger needed to destroy those documents?
[Marc Grossman & Nuclear Espionage]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950281/posts
Grossman is alleged to have been the ringleader of the plot to sell nuclear secrets to the Turks, and he was wedded at the hip to Berger during this timeframe [late 1990's].

Even today, they serve together on the board of America Abroad Media.

20 posted on 01/21/2008 11:07:46 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

don’t worry about nits...and their pickers


21 posted on 01/21/2008 11:07:52 AM PST by Osage Orange ("Bill Clinton is an unusually good liar" - Bob Kerry)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
~ placemarker ~


22 posted on 01/21/2008 11:10:50 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

I didn’t realize you were in charge here


23 posted on 01/21/2008 11:10:54 AM PST by RDTF
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To: Osage Orange

you have a problem with the search engine here too?


24 posted on 01/21/2008 11:11:37 AM PST by RDTF
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To: RDTF
you have a problem with the search engine here too?

In just the hour or so since I posted this thread, look at how it's been indexed already by the Google spider:

GOOGLE: berger grossman abedin

GOOGLE: berger fbi file

GOOGLE: grossman fbi file

What we are trying to do here is to use the spiders & their archiving techniques to create a database [like Able Danger] which will tie a noose around these people's necks.
25 posted on 01/21/2008 11:30:05 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

people’s = peoples’


26 posted on 01/21/2008 11:30:55 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

so let me get this straight - you are being allowed to use FreeRepublc to spread what is clearly your opinion and conspriracy theory throughout the internet?


27 posted on 01/21/2008 11:40:20 AM PST by RDTF
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Is this why Sandy Berger needed to destroy those documents?
____________

Except Berger destroyed zerox copies- no documents or information was lost. I am skeptical of a story that claims the Jews were behind it.


28 posted on 01/21/2008 11:44:13 AM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: RDTF
so let me get this straight - you are being allowed to use FreeRepublc to spread what is clearly your opinion and conspriracy theory throughout the internet?

Where are you from? Democrat Underground? Daily KOS?

I'm using Free Republic to POST FACTS about these rat b*st*rds so that the information will [hopefully, eventually] filter its way out into the mainstream of American society.

And I POST THE FACTS in such a manner as to maximize their indexability into and ease of retrieval from the various archiving databases, like Google, Yahoo, and MSN.

29 posted on 01/21/2008 11:59:45 AM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

you are not posting facts and you know it. Have fun, I’m done.


30 posted on 01/21/2008 12:01:53 PM PST by RDTF
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To: awake-n-angry
I am skeptical of a story that claims the Jews were behind it.

I am as well.

Nevertheless, the FACTS are that:

1) Sandy Berger is KNOWN to have destroyed documents [among other sins];

2) Marc Grossman is KNOWN to have been wedded at the hip to Sandy Berger during the time in question [late 1990's, early 2000's] and they are KNOWN to have remained wedded at the hip to this very day;

3) Marc Grossman is alleged to have been the ringleader of the plot to sell nuclear secrets to the Turks.


31 posted on 01/21/2008 12:06:21 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: RDTF
you are not posting facts and you know it

Kindly point to ANY SINGLE ITEM I have posted which is factually false.

32 posted on 01/21/2008 12:07:21 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
thanks for the ping...

I can't WAIT for four/eight more years of this type of thing!

33 posted on 01/21/2008 12:11:17 PM PST by infidel29 (I'm pulling for Fred... The 6 of us just don't have a loud enough voice to "b" Duncan Hunter "ttt")
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thanks for the ping.


34 posted on 01/21/2008 12:14:18 PM PST by maggief
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thank Kedd for the ping


35 posted on 01/21/2008 1:17:17 PM PST by BARLF
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; devolve; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP; All; FARS
Thank you for pings.


36 posted on 01/21/2008 1:20:02 PM PST by potlatch
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To: RDTF

Let the mods sort it out.

Some people only see the second time an article is posted.

If the mods want to, they can lock one and direct more comments to the other one.

Push abuse if it really bugs you.


37 posted on 01/21/2008 1:23:40 PM PST by Syncro
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To: awake-n-angry

IIRC Burger took some originals what will never be seen before.


38 posted on 01/21/2008 1:24:42 PM PST by Syncro
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thanks for posting this.


39 posted on 01/21/2008 1:30:43 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: awake-n-angry
"I am skeptical of a story that claims the Jews were behind it."

Normally, in other matters, I feel the same. But, not espionage. Spying and Israel go together.

40 posted on 01/21/2008 2:22:16 PM PST by moonman
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
BFL.

Thanks for the ping.

41 posted on 01/21/2008 2:53:17 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

for later


42 posted on 01/21/2008 4:00:10 PM PST by AprilfromTexas
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To: Syncro

That’s not true. It is impossible to get original documents out of storage at the archives. If he destroyed materials, he had to have done so before they went iinto the archives.


43 posted on 01/21/2008 6:12:04 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 01/21/2008 7:25:43 PM PST by GOPJ (McCain's NOT the man for the job.)
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To: awake-n-angry
Well, I don't think that we really know that.

From the Wall St. Journal:

Another telling revelation concerns Mr. Berger's access to original, uncopied and uninventoried documents from the files of former NSC antiterror official Richard Clarke, among others. At the time Mr. Berger made his misdemeanor plea agreement, we were assured by then-federal prosecutor Noel Hillman that there was no evidence that Mr. Berger destroyed or intended to destroy any original documents. That was, strictly speaking, true. But during three of Mr. Berger's four visits to the Archives in 2002 and 2003, the former National Security Adviser did have access to original documents of which no adequate inventory existed or exists.

This seems relevant, given the concern that Mr. Berger's breaches of national security might have denied evidence to history of the Clinton Administration's approach to al Qaeda and the threat of terrorism. And yet the Justice Department clearly gave the impression that there was no danger that Mr. Berger abridged the historical record. We now know that this was not true. Mr. Berger was in a position to remove documents from Mr. Clarke's files, and thanks to lax security, breaches of protocol and undue deference on the part of Archives staff, we may never know whether Mr. Berger took documents other than the five he's admitted to removing.


45 posted on 01/21/2008 7:36:55 PM PST by Syncro
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This is absolutely impossible. I am familiar with the archives. It is impossible to access uninventoried materials. Impossible.

Berger may have destroyed Clarke’s or someone else’s papers but he had to do so before they were turned over to the archives.

I’m not defending Berger, I’m saying that the suggestion is just not plausible. If he did somehow get secured documents then the problem is Archivist who were in on it and the Bush Admin for not prosecuting.

The 9/11 Commission has claimed that they were denied absolutely no documents and that Berge destroyed no original documents.

Berger did removed top secret copies and allowed them to be exposed to theft and viewing by unauthorized personell. During Wartime this is as close to treason as you get, even if they were not original documents.


46 posted on 01/21/2008 8:19:52 PM PST by awake-n-angry
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Thanks for the ping.


47 posted on 01/21/2008 9:15:29 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1886546/posts?page=4972#4972 45 Item Communist Manifesto)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
God Bless Sibel Edmonds;keep her safe.

Meantime. . .perhaps a mass mailing to Fox News... O'Reilly; or Hannity might help here; but somehow, I doubt it. This info needs an entire organization behind it. . .insuring 'public disclosure'.

48 posted on 01/21/2008 10:38:01 PM PST by cricket (Democrat's promise change; they guarantee disaster.)
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To: awake-n-angry

My understanding of this tresonous farce was that ‘they/some’ WERE original documents. Claims ‘otherwise’ I think were just that.


49 posted on 01/21/2008 10:41:28 PM PST by cricket (Democrat's promise change; they guarantee disaster.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Sandy Berger’s sentence is finished this year

Sandy Berger should be worried.. .very worried. Even IF appointed by Hillary; should she win; just all the easier to erase Clinton,Inc.'s past.

50 posted on 01/21/2008 10:46:55 PM PST by cricket (Democrat's promise change; they guarantee disaster.)
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