Skip to comments.Woman Accused Of Cutting 100-Year-Old Tahoe Trees
Posted on 01/24/2008 12:08:13 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
A federal grand jury has indicted an Incline Village woman for allegedly hiring a crew to cut down three large pine trees up to a century old on U.S. Forest Service land at Lake Tahoe.
58-year-old Patricia Vincent was indicted by the grand jury in Reno last week on two charges, including theft of government property. If convicted, she faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine for each count.
The three ponderosa pine trees from 80 to 100 years old were growing on a national forest lot the Forest Service had designated as environmentally sensitive as part of a plan to help protect the clarity of Lake Tahoe. The property is across the street from the Incline Village Championship Golf Course designed by Robert Trent Jones Senior.
The indictment accuses Vincent of hiring a commercial tree removal business in April to cut down the trees to enhance her view. The indictment says the damage exceeded $10,000.
Vincent could not immediately be reached for comment.
This "poor" woman doesn't have the view she wants so, what the heck cut down a few 80 year-old ponderosa pines on government property.
What a b-i.
Probably figured no one would notice.
Yeah, give her the chair.
Meanwhile charges still haven’t been filed against Clinton and Gore for cutting down trees on government property so they could make a joint announcement of a park dedication in Utah, against the wishes of the state.
And she probably drives a hybrid.
Back in the good old days, RT Jones could run a bulldozer amok through such forests, build a golf course, and everyone hailed it as progress.
“..she faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine for each count.”
I suspect that view will be somewhat less appealing than what she was trying for.
I have a piece of rental property in Florida. My elderly neighbor had someone go into my back yard and cut down a tree that was casting too much shade in her yard. When it fell, it crushed her fence, so she sent me a bill for half.
I’m sure she suppoerts McCain.
If anything this case will set a good precedence.
I can't stand self-righteous people like this.
What she failed to do was either make a large donation to the democrat of choice, of the regulators, or get elected to office before taking down the trees. Either would have insulated her.
All animals are equal...except some animals are more equal than others.
“I have a piece of rental property in Florida. My elderly neighbor had someone go into my back yard and cut down a tree that was casting too much shade in her yard. When it fell, it crushed her fence, so she sent me a bill for half”
I would send her a bill back for the cost of the tree... if it was large enough then it could be in the 5 digit level...
..can I have those three bars removed so I can see better?
I was reading an old Richard Scarry children’s book to my daughter the other night. There was a section on how the lumber industry works. A specific passage, and I read it just a bit louder, cracked me up:
“this tree is nearly 100 years old, and ready for cutting”.
Well, I read it a bit louder because Grammy, a real non-thinking “parrot” of a lib, was in the room, too. She took exception to this passage and said something. I said, “yeah, it’s not like we can’t plant more trees.”
Take a walk to the lake and look at it?
Property values in Tahoe, go up significantly if you have even a partial view of Lake Tahoe. Many “views” easily raise the values over six figures!
Get a grip folks. These were three second-growth trees next to a golf course. Make her pay damages and do some community service.
No, you get a grip.
These were not her trees to cut down.
If they were on her property I obviously don't care, but they weren't.
Well, it looks like she just significantly raised her property value. I'm sure she'll be very happy with her improved view once she serves her stink in the clink.
The fine should be 250 million for each offense.
Those two butt wipes did not cut down 100 year old trees. But I doubt if you understand the difference.
If she was a judge in Seattle she could get away with it. The judge cut down a whole hill side. The trees were blocking his view. I believe he had to pay $10,000.
That goes on in virginia all the time.
Sheez. You people ever hear of a fire break?
You ever hear of breaking the law?
Not her trees, not on her property, send a clear message and make her pay!
this tree is nearly 100 years old, and ready for cutting.
What Do People Do All Day I love that book!
Is it okay if I don't? They weren't her trees and it wasn't her property. Taking something that isn't yours to enrich yourself (a better view is absolutely worth money when you go to sell your home) is stealing. We don't just fine thieves and send them on their way. Taking that which isn't yours is theft. Not to mention destruction of property.
Try to stop focusing on the trees and look at what she did - she unjustly enriched herself
Nah, I really don’t understand twenty to thirty foot trees vs one hundred foot trees. I wonder what the 100 foot trees started out like? Do you think it was 97 foot trees, or perhaps more like 92 foot trees?
Over the last century, there have been countless trees taken down for this purpose or that. Golf course??? Hmmm, I wonder how many hundreds were taken down for that, and how many people went to prison for it.
Three trees? Dang if it isn’t beginning to sound like Al Gore is posting on the forum.
okay. Guess you missed the invisible “/s” tag. ;~)
Oops! Sorry about that. I’m usually pretty good at detecting sarcasm; not this time : (
"There it is. The Griswald family Christmas Tree."
Actually they never got near Utah -— afraid I guess.
They used the Grand Canyon in Arizona as the background for the signing. Grand Staircas-Escalante National Park, UT or whatever.
You’re absolutely right. If I stated they cut down trees in Utah, I was wrong and you are right to point it out.
Thanks for the correction.
If they were on private property it is none of my business, the lady cut down trees not on her property. Try posting about the article, it works better that way.
Folks, my comments here make it seem I don’t care if old growth trees are cut down on government property by someone who shouldn’t have done it.
What would be more accurate would be to say that I don’t share the extent of your reactions to the three trees being cut down.
Should the person be taken to task? Yes, they should. Is a $250k fine for each tree and a ten year sentence for each tree reasoned? IMO it is absurd.
You don’t get ten years for killing people these days, and a fine? Not likley unless a civil trial can be won. Even then $250k per dead person. The perp generally doesn’t have $20 bucks to their name. And if they do, well, you’ve seen how successful the Simpsons have been.
When folks assign more respect to trees than human life, I leave the reservation.
Some of you have been upset at my comments. I hope this sounds more reasoned, even though I’m sure it won’t go all the way toward easing your disagreement with me.
Several people here seem to have a hard time with that concept!
I'm sure the tree company will get a good talking to regarding this.
What she did was wrong, but 10 years in prison is ridiculous.
I agree. In a prior post I said she should get 6 months, but perhaps a boatload of community service might be better for Ms. Vincent.
Either way I'm going to follow-up on this story to see what she gets.
Take a look at my post in 40 and see if that makes any more sense to you. Thanks.
This should have read 'the Brown' family. I'm so used to rattling off Nicole Simpson that I wrote Simpson by mistake.
If the wood is still available, maybe the judge could order it used to permanently board over her windows or (perhaps) to burn her at the stake.
Give me a break!
You honestly think that people who posted on this thread care more about a few trees than human life. To make that comparison is pathetic and quite possibly one the most ridiculous posts I've seen on FR.
Yep, lets send her off to prison. Good call. And three quarters of a million dollars? Yep that sounds about right. I was pulling for an even million, but okay, I guess I can go with $750,000.00.
My earlier comments stand. You're welcome to think what you like.
The tree-huggers along with the government-is-good types have multiplied here in the past few years; part of the shifting sands of “conservatism”, I guess.
Actually she should be made to pay to put the trees back, the same size and age and she has to keep doing if one dies.
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