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Breaking Up Is Hard to Do ("Bush Destroyed the Republican Party" -- Drudge Headline)
WSJ.com ^ | Jan 25, 2008 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/26/2008 5:57:27 AM PST by fightinJAG

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To: mewzilla

I know. See tagline.


81 posted on 01/26/2008 6:37:26 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: Theodore R.

I’m not up on how, but somehow the party gave Taft the boot for Wilkie.


82 posted on 01/26/2008 6:37:37 AM PST by Leisler
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To: roamer_1

Alan Keyes is nonexistent this cycle. After getting what, 25 percent, against the popular Obama in liberal IL, no one takes him seriously with his reparations for slavery.


83 posted on 01/26/2008 6:38:29 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: fightinJAG

I AGREE WITH PEGGY. While I think G.W. did some good things (appointing Roberts and Alito to the SCOTUS)he has basically been a disaster this second term.

Big Government, big spending, open borders, etc., etc., etc. I just wish there was some way he could do “DAMAGE CONTROL” in his State of the Union Speech Monday night.

Probably won’t happen.


84 posted on 01/26/2008 6:38:39 AM PST by no dems (If we can't beat Hillary or Obama in '08, the GOP has become a sorry lot..)
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To: abclily

I couldn’t agree more. Ms. Noonan’s own sense of self-importance has clouded her judgement and allowed her to believe she speaks for all conservatives.

The idea that George Bush has singlehandedly “destroyed” the Republican party is nonsense. True, many of us would love to see another Reagan appear today and restore clarity and vision to our party. But to blame Bush for not being Reagan is unfair. Even Reagan the President was not “Reagan the Icon” at the time.


85 posted on 01/26/2008 6:39:01 AM PST by G.Love (Romney '08)
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To: Melchior

True.


86 posted on 01/26/2008 6:39:09 AM PST by Leisler
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To: nmh

“Rush is right. McCain or Huckabee will drive the Republican party further to the left. McCain is a social liberal and a fiscal liberal. Mike is a humanist that loves to ues socialism to make his utopia come true. The differences between the Demoncrats and Republicans will be hardly worth mentioning.
I’m voting for Mitt, the “Mormon”.”

Ditto. I see Romney as my next best choice.


87 posted on 01/26/2008 6:39:37 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: Leisler

It was Willkie of IN and NYC. His supporters got into the Philadelphia convention with passes and overwhelmed the galleries. They stunned the weak-kneed delegates who actually nominated him on a pro-FDR foreign policy and minor revisions of the New Deal. He did have quite a bit of the support of younger voters, like Obama today. Dewey and Taft deadlocked each other.


88 posted on 01/26/2008 6:40:21 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The GOP is a lot stronger than a single person. What it needs is leadership, which is currently lacking

This is true the problem is Media every time some substantive stands up as a front runner for the Republican party they are either ignored or portrayed as a Nazi ! while the Darlings of the media and the media itself is held in high regard as the Saviour's of the land and all it's peoples....

89 posted on 01/26/2008 6:40:44 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Global Warming : A perpetuation of Lies Levied onto sheep to give up their Fleece)
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To: cake_crumb

If any of the current candidates had half the balls of GW they might not have so much trouble getting elected. Maybe then if there was a someone who could be a real leader they would find the Republican Party would not be in such a state. The divisions were always there but without a good potential shepherd the sheep are getting a litle nervous.

Mel


90 posted on 01/26/2008 6:41:03 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: G.Love

Don’t attack messenger “Noonan”. Look at her ideas. I am surprised that someone from the WSJ would be this forthcoming.


91 posted on 01/26/2008 6:41:20 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: cake_crumb

Yeah, that’s great.

He should be talking about the inherently Marxist idea of taxing income in the first place, the abuses of power that the IRS commonly visit on otherwise free citizens, and the Keynesian monetary and budgetary policies that have led us to economic crisis.

If he did that, we wouldn’t be debating about making the cuts permanent, we would actually have a national dialogue about the morality of our entire economy.

Instead, he allows the line of scrimmage to be positioned way over on the left, and we argue with the statists about minutiae.


92 posted on 01/26/2008 6:42:10 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: Bushbacker1
She has, to my knowledge, never had a good thing to say about W.

That's not true. She was a avid supporter in the 2000 and 2004 Election. Do a Google search of her writings during that time.
93 posted on 01/26/2008 6:42:20 AM PST by no dems (If we can't beat Hillary or Obama in '08, the GOP has become a sorry lot..)
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To: melsec
If any of the current candidates had half the balls of GW . . .

I don't follow this. And neither do former agents Ramos and Compean.

94 posted on 01/26/2008 6:42:28 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Theodore R.

Both Bushes have been disasterous for the Republican Party and conservative movement. The two are probably responsible for about 80% of our 15 trillion dollar debt. Bush I was our “kinder, gentler president” and GWB has been our “compassionate conservative.” I, for one, want no more of it.


95 posted on 01/26/2008 6:43:55 AM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: G.Love
Other than Republican libertarians and conservatives, Reagan was thought of as a cray, out there ideas type that hoodwinked himself in against loser Democrats. Reagans basic conservative ideas had little support even with in his own administration.

So, considering the Tip O’Neil, Jim Wright, the media, the ignorant American population that had zero, no, none, nada idea what conservative was, and that people back then got their ‘news’ from ABC/CBS/NBS it was fantastic what Reagan did get done.

There is no excuse for ignorance now, especially within the GOP. I think now in the GOP it is about the money and power, Reagan be damned. There is just too much money in DC, and the political power can make and break any industry. Look at farmers and ethanol. Total taxpayer rape boondoggle.

96 posted on 01/26/2008 6:45:33 AM PST by Leisler
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To: DrDeb

Speaking of President Reagan, I remember VIVIDLY all the screaming about how he “expanded government and increased spending”...but never heard anyone whining that he single handedly destroyed the Republican party. No, we’re doing it all by ourselves. It’s always easier to blame someone else for our own wrongdoing.


97 posted on 01/26/2008 6:45:59 AM PST by cake_crumb (Even if you're unable to FIGHT to save your country, you CAN vote to save it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You are so right. This is typical of the left media. Say it long enough and loud enough and people will start believing you.


98 posted on 01/26/2008 6:46:16 AM PST by shiva
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To: Theodore R.

I used to enjoy looking at Ms. Noonan’s ideas. But I don’t consider her a “messenger.” That would imply that they are not her ideas - that she is merely the mouthpiece for somebody else. I’m no longer a big fan of hers, but I still give her credit for having ideas of her own.

I know a lot of people agree with her, but I don’t and that’s fine. I just resent her presuming to speak for all of us.


99 posted on 01/26/2008 6:47:00 AM PST by G.Love (Romney '08)
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To: Leisler; ovrtaxt

Yeah, it killed his wife and her sister, too. That’ll teach ‘em! haha. /s


100 posted on 01/26/2008 6:47:02 AM PST by BunkDetector
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