Anchor Babies Weigh Down Economy

Hernando Today ^ | 07/26/08 | JOHN REINIERS

[trumandogz]

Illegal aliens are NOT “subject to the jurisdictions thereof”

In Plyer v. Doe the SCOTUS ruled that illegal aliens are protected by the Constitution.

However, you believe that illegal aliens are not “subject to the jurisdictions thereof” then you must also accept that illegal aliens cannot be prosecuted for crimes committed while on U.S. soil.

[Verginius Rufus]

I think the main reason they inserted "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the text of the 14th amendment is to exclude families of diplomats as well as "Indians not taxed" (who were not citizens of the US at that time). Since virtually anyone seeking to immigrate was allowed in (other than criminals, polygamists, anarchists, those with contagious diseases, and those likely to become a public burden), they had no inkling of what the situation would be like today.

The biggest factor in how politicians deal with this is that they are deathly afraid of being called racists (especially Republicans).

[smoketree]

Did you think about what you just said?
Illegals ARE subject to the laws of this country or they could commit any crime they want and we could do nothing.
Just being on US soil does not qualify as subject to the juridiction.

[trumandogz]

Just being on US soil does not qualify as subject to the juridiction {sic}.

Read: Plyer v. Doe.

[smoketree]

Why don’t you just summarize it?
Subject to the jurisdiction and subject to the laws are not the same.
Do you disagree with the article and other posts citing dicisions that support it?

[B4Ranch]

Now.................

I hope the following 14 reasons are read so many times that the readers get sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Homeland Security Report
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States’.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !

[trumandogz]

The SCOTUS does not agree with you and ruled so in Plyer.

[smoketree]

You don’t have to convince me. I live in Los Angeles and have seen a tremendous transfermation over the past thirty years.
City after city now looks like Mexico.
Billboards in Spanish all over. Stores, restaurants, etc all in Spanish. Schools with ninety percent Hispanic.
Babies, babies, babies, everywhere.
Day laborers all over.
Spanish announcements in stores like Home Depot.
Etc, etc, etc.
It’s an invasion pure and simple albeit on a slow scale.

[trumandogz]

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

So which is it? 11 to 22 billion or 90 billion?

As for me, I am equally offended when US and non US citizens receive Welfare.

[smoketree]

It’s not me.
Read the article and the other posts citing SC decisions.

[trumandogz]

We can argue the merits of the 14th Amendment for days here on FR but that will not change how the SCOTUS has interpreted the 14th. Therefore, babies born here to illegal aliens will continue to be U.S. citizens, just like you and me, and illegal aliens will still be educated in our schools.

Now, in order to repeal the 14th one would need the agreement of 67 US Senators and 34 State Legislatures.

Neither or those will happen.

[smoketree]

No.
Read post five again and again.
I think the amendment was misinterpreted at one point when it was not a significant problem and has grown way out of proportion since creating a problem.
It does not need a new amendment.
It just needs to be read correctly.
If you won’t see that then what can anyone say?

[BigCinBigD]

I don’t get it. If they are “anchor babies” toss them in the lake and move on.

[citizen]

You want blanket amnesty? No borders? You want to coddle terrorists? Vote for McCain.

Electing McCain will destroy what remains of our sovreignty.

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I'd sooner be waterboarded than vote for McCain.

[trumandogz]

It really does not matter how you or I read the 14th but rather how it is read by the SCOTUS.

However, the reality of the situation is that both parties are pandering to the Hispanic Vote and thus neither party will move to take action to repeal the 14th.

[gubamyster]

ping

[smoketree]

Yes it does matter what we think. If we raise enough of a stink we can get things set right.
Apparently you are stuck so don’t include me.
Read post five again and again and again.
Apparently you have not read it once.

[MotleyGirl70]

Makes me want to scream! I bookmarked this thread just for those links. I'm off to read some more of them.

Welcome to America, illegals!

[smoketree]

Do you agree with the Kelo decision?

[TLI]

That added up to 11,200 babies for which Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million to deliver these babies, the feds another $9.5 million and Dallas taxpayers tossed in $31.3 million. The average illegal patient is 25 years old and giving birth to her second anchor baby. We could also talk about California, but you get the point.

The REAL point is it has been going on for AT LEAST ten years. Soooo let's look at the real numbers over just the last ten years, not the 25 years they have been a problem.

112,000 kids. 345 million + 95 Million + 313 million in costs. Three Quarters of a BILLION and that is only ONE COUNTY

$753,000,000.00 to illegal alien babies from one county.

Then? Heck the anchor babies at Parkland are only the begining.

Then means ongoing hospital emergency room expenses for two decades because "they have no doctor." They just go to Parkland for whatever.

Then means subsidized daycare.

Then means free education for 13 - 14 years as most of them rent apartments and do not pay property tax.

And the folks that own houses around here wonder why their property taxes are through the roof.