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OFFICIAL FLORIDA PRIMARY THREAD
Freeperville ^ | 1-29-08 | self

Posted on 01/29/2008 1:43:23 PM PST by icwhatudo

Did not see it posted yet, here we go folks!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: fl2008; kickitaway; mccain; mitt; mittens; mormowned; romney; sawitoff
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To: TheLion

Thanks....I’m floored....like: what was the point ?

mama mia !


3,341 posted on 01/29/2008 9:47:30 PM PST by billmor (We will never surrender !)
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah, that was real necessary....not.


3,342 posted on 01/29/2008 9:49:49 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: supercat
The irony is that I would be more worried about McCain becoming a no-holds-barred turn-em-all-in gun grabber than Romney.

I can see it now, the McCain-Schumer national gun ban.

3,343 posted on 01/29/2008 9:50:47 PM PST by RWyankee
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To: ruination
...your guy McCain...

Bzzzzt.

You scored EPIC FAIL!

3,344 posted on 01/29/2008 9:50:49 PM PST by Petronski (People get the kind of government they deserve.)
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To: Twink

I can only speak to those I know personally, and currently serving, is they highly regard his military history. That, and that they are too busy fighting a war, with not much time to spend delving into politics.

Your mileage may vary, just my take from what I’ve heard.


3,345 posted on 01/29/2008 9:51:09 PM PST by GatorRN (Air Force wife)
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To: Twink

We’ll see what happens on primary Tuesday. That should tell us where we stand in the fight for conservatism.

I live in central California. It’s a pretty conservative area. Unfortunately the highly populated areas on the coast are very liberal and they have the votes to call the shots.


3,346 posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:25 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Someone posted this earlier on this thread. I agree with it.

Romney has to go NUCLEAR on the immigration issue. That’s the only thing that can turn this thing around at this point. He needs to NAIL McCain to the failed amnesty bill and drive this point him consistently in the debate and in his advertising. This can’t be a tepid response, Romney needs to spell things out forcefully and repeatedly regarding immigration. Otherwise, he will lose on 2/5 and the country will lose in November.


3,347 posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:26 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Waryone

Well then, maybe Jim Robinson has some explainin... to do.

Contradictions?? LOL. Every FReeper can project on JR.


3,348 posted on 01/29/2008 9:52:29 PM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: Reaganite1984

Romney should have unequivocally put to rest any doubts about his stance on gun rights and he didn’t do that . I said this would cost him dearly well over a year ago, but the campaign wouldn’t listen to the gun rights advocates .

I know gunowners who voted for McPain on that issue alone because he came across better than Romney on the gun issue .

Romney blew it with this issue, as it’s the base of grassroots support in tight contests . Pro-gun Crist came out for McPain and that sealed the deal .


3,349 posted on 01/29/2008 9:56:40 PM PST by Neu Pragmatist (McPain = Amnesty . Downticket Republican voting only .)
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To: TheBattman
To me it's irrelevant whether McCain has a better chance of defeating HRC.

Michael Bloomberg could probably defeat her in a general election, but I see no reason to support him.

McCain is not simply a "maverick," but someone who's done everything in his power to thwart good policy and dissolve our Constitutional freedoms.

You can't call yourself a patriotic, conservative American and vote for someone who not only advocates suppressing our natural rights, but has actually implemented policy to that effect.

3,350 posted on 01/29/2008 9:57:04 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Reaganite1984

I might agree with you, but we can’t do that either because the people who are on that side of the immigration debate aren’t all pro-life, and the social conservatives won’t go for it.

Plus, once you get past the “secure the borders”, a lot of social conservatives are with Huckabee (the pre-sellout huckabee), that compassion is better than punishment.

In fact, I think Huckabee’s pandering on the illegal immigrant issue is what started costing him evangelicals. See, the immigration issue splits our coalition, because the social conservatives are not clearly on the same side. Huckabee had that going for him. Now our party has nobody who appeals to any moderation on that issue.

We are working to drive away everybody who isn’t pure on every issue, and there aren’t likely to be more than 10% of the country that is pure on every issue, kind of a small base.

If the republican party can define their goals, and those goals aren’t so jingoistic as to be laughable, or so adamantly pro-life as to scare off even people who would largely ban abortion, but who are scared of losing their contraceptives, or so adamantly pro-war that it appears we shoot first and ask question later, we can bring people to the right side.

We can be adamant, but we can’t demand adamantcy as a condition of acceptance into the votership.

Frankly, we are about to get a ruder awakening than McCain’s election — because the people aren’t with “us” on illegal immigration, they simply weren’t with the “pro-amnesty” group.

The anti-mexican movement overplayed it’s hand in Prince William county. They got a resolution that is reasonable but modest, but billed it as some great change, and people see through it and know they are demagoging. Now two candidates in Manssas City (which has a real problem and has voters ready to act against the illegals) were rejected to the council, which has no democrats because they have little presense.

Get it — in a city that pretty much is all “republican”, two candidates who were members of Help Save Manassas were rejected for being too extreme on an issue that the electorate says is important to them. The other three spoke of common-sense solutions.

One of those two was a dear friend of mine who actually was very good on the issue and would have done OK I think if he wasn’t a member of the HSM organization.


3,351 posted on 01/29/2008 9:57:04 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GatorRN

I highly regard his military history too. It’s the one thing he has going for him here (and I mean here as in my vote). It’s the only thing I like about him. but I still don’t trust him even when it comes to the military.


3,352 posted on 01/29/2008 9:57:47 PM PST by Twink
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To: khnyny

That was a quote from Jim Robinson. Not a projection. If you’ve got a problem with what he wrote, why don’t you take it up with him?


3,353 posted on 01/29/2008 9:58:14 PM PST by Waryone
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To: CharlesWayneCT
BTW, it’s 2007. The 90s are over. Come join us...

ROFLMAOAPIMPRFI

3,354 posted on 01/29/2008 9:58:41 PM PST by Petronski (People get the kind of government they deserve.)
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To: BobS
Now let's find out where McCain gets money and the inspired volunteers to help him through the end.

Sorry for the delay, I lost power here.

Anyhoo....The answer to the money question is simple. It came from the 527s he created when they passed McCain- Finegold. These 527s attacked Romney with BS and it worked.

3,355 posted on 01/29/2008 9:58:51 PM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: Tennessee Nana

C’mon, Nana! It’s 2007!

Forget your worries, c’mon get happy!


3,356 posted on 01/29/2008 9:59:43 PM PST by Petronski (People get the kind of government they deserve.)
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To: Ingtar

You’re right Ingtar. These liberal republicans have left us with the choice of a rock or a hard place. They thought they were being cute making fun of the real conservatives. Instead of supporting the conservatives, they talked up their lib candidates. Now that their lib is toasted by another lib, they are up in arms screaming like chicken little.


3,357 posted on 01/29/2008 10:00:21 PM PST by Waryone
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I’m sick of this personal attack stuff. Attack his positions, attack his previous positions, complain that he changed his positions, but it’s just too easy to call the entire world liars.

I tend to agree with that. However, he invited people to check his Massachusetts record and, well, the roegone.org folks did.

3,358 posted on 01/29/2008 10:00:25 PM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: claudiustg

“You almost wonder if it wasn’t planned this way...”

Yep...by Bigwig Party Central...Planned almost down to a T...same as the nominating convention will be..Oh the conservative voice will be heard-faintly- and the liberal Reps will be yelling for their guys to be nominated..in the end it will come down to : screw the conservatives and the right wing, we’ll pick a ‘centrist’ (=liberal) who can win and pick up some seats for us in Congress...if the lib/centrist gets out of hand our guys in congress will box him in and set him straight...and the sheep will go baa baa...


3,359 posted on 01/29/2008 10:01:15 PM PST by billmor (We will never surrender !)
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To: billmor

Remember awhile back Giuliani was ill and went into the hospital? He was quickly released, but then dropped from view and started hanging out in Florida with his new one state strategy.

About the same time McCain started his rise from the ranks of the politically dead. Then in the first New Hamphire debate all the candidates attacked Mitt.

Then Thompson attacked Huckabee and Huckabee attacked Mitt. And who attacked McCain or Giuliani?


3,360 posted on 01/29/2008 10:01:22 PM PST by claudiustg (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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