Posted on 02/05/2008 8:42:27 AM PST by grassboots
Not true. With Huckabee you get the added endearing qualities of class envy rhetoric, the denouncement of a fine Right-leaning organization as the Club for Greed Growth, and a criticism of President Bush's foreign policy.
Thanks for the ping!
If that’s what you believed, then why/how could you question why Huck was attacking Romney over McCain? You asked for a logical reason for the focus on Romney and you got it. I take it you agree it is the logical and appropriate tactic for Huck.
You misinterpret what I said. I contrasted Huck’s strengths to Romney’s weaknesses. How you interpret that as there being no difference between Huck and McCain is beyond me.
The biggest difference between Huck and McCain is Tax Policy, but Huck is equally different from all candidates on that one. Another key one is on sanctity of life. Yet another is his focus on education, and especially the role of arts in education. Unfortunately, I don’t think Huck is with mainstream America on those, so it doesn’t make sense for him to focus on those particular weaknesses.
Most everything Huck could attack McCain on could be turned back against him.
“And there you have it... no significant difference between the two.”
Bingo. Evangelical doesn’t make you conservative, especially if you support a big government taxer like Huckabee. Otherwise, hell all of Jesse Jackson’s old coalition was every bit as conservative.
You misinterpret what I said. I contrasted Huck’s strengths to Romney’s weaknesses. How you interpret that as there being no difference between Huck and McCain is beyond me.
They are both for open borders. They are both for giving benefits to illegals. There are just two.
But since neither one of us is likely to convince the other of anything, and the polls are now closed, its all moot.
At this point even Huck is a better choice than McCain. And hell, he got the support of the Ron Paulistas in WV (Huck isn't a closet 9/11 conspirist is he?).
In any case, your guy did well. Take it easy.
You asked for a logical reason, and it was given. Do you agree with it?
Here’s Huckabee’s stance on immigration:
“I support the $3 billion the Senate has voted for border security. This money will train and deploy 23,000 more agents, add four drone planes, build 700 miles of fence and 300 miles of vehicle barriers, and put up 105 radar and camera towers. This money will turn “catch and release” into “catch and detain” of those entering illegally, and crack down on those who overstay their visas.”
“I oppose and will never allow amnesty. I opposed the amnesty President Bush and Senator McCain tried to ram through Congress this summer, and opposed the misnamed DREAM Act, which would have put us on the slippery slope to amnesty for all.
I oppose and will not tolerate sanctuaries for illegals. The federal government must crack down on rogue cities that willfully undermine our economy and national security. “
I could go on and on.
Huck did sign a law that prevented illegals from obtaining drivers licenses. He signed a law requiring state police to work with Federal ICE. All you can do is whine about him not punishing the kids for parents illegal actions.
And I wonder how you feel about Romeny’s 2004 statement to the Boston Globe - “I hate the idea of in any way making it more difficult for kids, even those who are illegal aliens, to afford college in our state.”
Did Romney crack down on the announced sanctuary cities in his state?
When did he order state law enforcement to enforce immigration laws? How many days later was it tossed out by his successor? Talk about paying lip service.
Give it a rest already. The damn priary is over.
You started defending Fred, but couldn’t explain his RINO record or the inconsistencies in his “federalist” position.
I mentioned Romney and Fred’s recent conversions, and you just attacked Huckabee for his, while ignoring the Romney/Fred conversions.
You asked for examples of outright lies by Romney, which I provided and you acknowledged 1 and then proceeded to ignore the rest.
You asked for a logical reason for Huckabee to be attacking Romney more than McCain, the reason was provided, and you ignored it, choosing just to bash Huckabee more.
You stated there was no difference between Huck and McCain, but when I pointed out the differences, you ignored it.
You called out Huck’s position on immigration, on which you were wrong, and then ignored it. You were asked about specific shortcomings of Romeny on immigration, which you also ignored.
Finally, after ignoring every fact presented in the discussion, you said “give it a rest.”
I hope you get past the campaign ads and radio spins and base your vote of reality when the time comes.
Succinct and accurate!
MCCAIN IS THE FRONT RUNNER, NOT THE WINNER!!!!!!
HE HAS LESS THAN HALF THE DELEGATES NEEDED TO WIN!
Huckabee won his home state by a (pardon my southern term) WHOPPING margin, while Romney barely won his home state by a 10 point margin.
Maybe some people just didn’t drink the koolaid, huh?
Who cares who wins New York, or Illinois, or the North Eastern liberal states that are DEEP BLUE, and going to vote democrap in the fall for sure anyway (barring some huge unforeseen event).
A republican president needs the south to win, and people in the southern states aren’t drinking the koolaid that Rush and Sean are trying to serve, trying to pretend Romney’s a great conservative when he has been supporting abortion, supporting taxpayers funding it, campaigning on it while he’s in a blue state, then tries to to tell us he’s just started thinking about it, and changed his mind now, but his kids are great, and his hair is great, so we should vote for him.
I hope that Mitt’s conversionS are real, and if he’s the nominee, I’d take a chance on him instead of the Dems, but some of us are realistic enough to be a LITTLE skeptical that after years of supporting abortion, taxpayer funded abortion, the Brady Bill and other gun control, homosexual issues, gay judges, that he’s all of sudden conservative on ALL those issues.
Huckabee - reliably pro-life, not recently pro-life.
Huckabee - reliably pro 2nd amendment, not recently 2nd amendment.
He understands that it is for self defense, not just hunting and sports.
Every vote for Mike Huckabee from now on will be one more vote to show the establishment and the media that the election can’t be bought and we don’t have to settle for their opinion of “that’s the best we can get”.
I love Rush and Sean, but they don’t get to decide who I vote for.
If it had been a 2 - man race (McCain and Huckabee), if Rush and Sean had supported the real conservative instead of the ‘conservative of convenience’ Huckabee would have WON Missouri’s 58 winner take all delegates.
McCain won over Huckabee by 1% because some people either believed Romney’s new position “I’m conservative pro-life and support gun rights”, or knew his conversions were all recent, but didn’t think Huckabee could win, because that’s what ‘the media’ kept telling them.
So my question is, when are Rush and Sean going to say, “Oh, we’re sorry folks for telling you that Romney’s a conservative, and Huckabee couldn’t win - sorry if we cost Huckabee that one percent in Missouri and gave those 58 winner take all delegates to McCain. Sorry about that, sorry it’s our fault that McCain’s going to be the nominee.”
Think they’ll take responsibility and apologize?
I’m not holding my breath.
But it still isn’t too late - if Romney drops out now, Huckabee would beat McCain in every state that is left.
HUCKABEE / HUNTER ‘08
By the way (even though its late), who did you vote for? Maybe if you and others who claim to be conservatives would have voted for Huckabee instead of resorting to name calling, McCain would not have won.
I am not a registered Republican, and here in California, I was not allowed to vote in the Republican primary.
I could have voted in the Democrat primary, but I did not want to have to live the rest of my life knowing I cast a vote for either of the Democrats, so I took a non-partisan ballot. This was before Operation Chaos.
If I could have, I would have voted for Romney.
Oh, and BTW, I would have voted for McCain over Huckabee in heartbeat.
Fred was my first choice, then Mitt, then McCain. Huckabee was dead last. I said at the time that if it was Obama vs. Huckabee, I would have to vote for Obama.
I’m just glad I won’t have to actually follow through on it.
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