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If you think McCain won’t be better than either one, you’re wrong
The Collins Report ^ | Feb7, 2008 | John F. Allen

Posted on 02/08/2008 5:01:34 AM PST by jmaroneps37

…..I do not like John McCain.

I like socialist women and the most liberal senator in America less, far less. Our party’s primaries have been hijacked by casual voters, liberals, moderates and even Democrats.

Our Evangelical friends have to shoulder much of the blame for giving us McCain. They have unfairly called Mormonism a cult and now all of us will suffer the consequences …I’m damned mad about this, but I can’t do anything about it. [ McCain] will be elected. America will not select either Democrat over him. Many Hillary hating Democrats will vote for McCain.

..the conservative radio talkers did all they could. They are now the de facto leaders of the conservative movement. …accept facts. Some of them insist McCain can’t win. I very much disagree.

Each conservative has to make a personal decision. We can swing wild in blind anger or carefully think things through. If you are old enough to vote, you are old enough to have been disappointed or you really haven’t lived much of a life. We don’t always get our way. If we jump wrong now, out of anger and frustration, we will insure …putting America, no our own families in danger. The danger of picking wrong at this point is history can not be over stated. …grievances against John McCain are [not] unimportant. They are very important. [but]we seem to be losing the fact that vicious Islamist terrorists want to kill us and will kill us and our children if we have the wrong Commander in Chief. ..a willingness to put aside the importance ..war against terror and make believe a Hillary Clinton or a Barack Obama would keep us safe from further attack is where I step off of the anti- McCain bandwagon. These three people are simply not interchangeable.

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KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; mccain; mcmexico
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To: normy
This outrage and claim that McCain is as bad as Hillary is just not true.

Sorry but it is true to me. I only have one vote and I will not waste it on McCain.

41 posted on 02/08/2008 5:34:33 AM PST by txlurker
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To: jmaroneps37

I listed to his speach at CPAC yesterday and all he did was throw red meat to the crowd. He told them exactly what they wanted to hear.
Mt guess is that he had to rince out his mouth after the speach.

just mt thoughts.


42 posted on 02/08/2008 5:34:53 AM PST by abseaman (The future is just your imagination reincarnaterd.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I’ll vote for my local officials. I will not put McCain in office (not that he could win anyway).


43 posted on 02/08/2008 5:35:39 AM PST by Neverforget01
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To: mad_as_he$$
" ... The party is broken ..."


That is the point many do not seem to comprehend.


From the "broken" primary fiasco, to the inability to project attractive candidates, to their less than stellar performance after 1995.


The Republican Party is broken, and no amount of conceding to "the lesser of evils" is going to fix it.

44 posted on 02/08/2008 5:37:02 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: txlurker
But waste it you will if you bother to vote.

Hey amnesty is coming no matter what. It would have come anyway if we hadn't stood up to our Congressmen. I may start pressuring my congressmen to at least press for our rights in Mexico as well.

By the way, if you support Huckabee you only have to go back to the first debate in the primaries to find him saying that racism is driving much of the illegal immigration debate.

45 posted on 02/08/2008 5:38:02 AM PST by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: TADSLOS
This is the traitor John McCain chose to be his "Hispanic Outreach Director." Hernandez is a verified traitor. Born in Dallas he decided as an adult to become a dual-national Mexican citizen. His last job was serving as Mexican President Vicente Fox's "American Reconquista Director."

Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation."

The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA.

And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." In the past week he was asked about this choice, and he said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions.

Yet out of the other side of his mouth he says "He has heard us" and he will "Secure the border first."

Juan Shamnesty McCain is precisely a treacherous liar.

46 posted on 02/08/2008 5:38:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Sloth
There was a big shift in Congress in 1994, though... and Clinton didn't really govern as a hardcore liberal. He was more interested in soaking up admiration and chasing tail than in pushing a leftist agenda.

So we shouldn't work to take back Congress so we can set up the perfect situation for the next "real conservative leader" to take us to the promised land? I don't think so. We should just accept the fact that we couldn't agree on a consensus Conservative and got McCain for our efforts AND we should work to elect conservatives to Congress. This would drive McCain to the right. If McCain does succeed in his strategy to be elected by moderates, independents and democrats... he will need a more conservative Congress than we have now to drive him to the right (as Clinton did in 94). We should have been working on this all along.

47 posted on 02/08/2008 5:40:55 AM PST by rhombus
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To: TexasRedeye
in Texas, Hoa Tran (the female Oriental medicine woman, i.e. witch doctor) is still on the primary ballot

Tell me more. Is she cute? Drive a classic car? Any reason will do.

48 posted on 02/08/2008 5:41:19 AM PST by laotzu
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To: All

McCain or Hillary or Obama.

All 3 will lead us lock step into “Green” socialism.

Islam?
Pfft.
They will have to take a ticket and get in line. Maybe if they harm the enviornment in the process they will garner attention.


49 posted on 02/08/2008 5:41:22 AM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: jmaroneps37

McCain will never win. The MSM will constantly bring up his age and temper. They will contantly talk about his voting against conservative principles. They will show pictures of either a young, slim, smiling, black man or a younger looking botoxed, smiling, white women in slimming skirts (yes, I predict if she wins the nomination she will start wearing skirts) next to a pale, scowling, old man with that flap hanging from his chin. It may seem shallow but looks will influence people and the MSM will be more that happy to show America the difference.


50 posted on 02/08/2008 5:41:32 AM PST by saberpride ("If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would get done... "Anon.)
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To: normy

I will vote. I will write in a candidate. And vote for the Republicans running in the House and Senate races. Congress is our only hope at this point. Regarding Huck...gag me. I wanted Fred. Romney was my second choice. Now I have no choice.


51 posted on 02/08/2008 5:42:33 AM PST by txlurker
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To: normy

“Our only chance will be that the alternative to the moderate and independent is a closet Muslim whose middle name is Hussein and an wicked spiteful woman and he equally wicked and spiteful husband.”

McCain has some time to recover with some conservatives. Some will never vote for him. Will he continue with his arrogance or will he make some real committments to the conservative cause. I’m going to wait and see. All I can go on is what I’ve seen so far. He has alot of work to do.


52 posted on 02/08/2008 5:42:51 AM PST by Minn. 4 Bush
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To: txlurker
McCain will NEVER look good to most conservatives. The whole idea that we must follow the R's just because a D is worse is ridiculous.

Actually I think that's what got us in this mess in the first place. We elected people just because of the R in front of their names and forgot about the INO.

53 posted on 02/08/2008 5:45:03 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: DManA

I won’t vote for him either. NO way


54 posted on 02/08/2008 5:45:54 AM PST by mel
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To: Molly Pitcher
McCain to a significantly greater degree will support our military, as will most of us who vote for him.

Knock yourself out. You think he's a staunch supporter of all things military? Think again. It's mixed, at best. You think his support to the President in support of the surge came without a price? At least I know who I'm dealing with when it comes to Hillary and Obama.

Besides, McCain has already done significant damage to this nation and continues to do so. The "supporting our troops" clarion call with McCain's name attached to it rings hollow for me.

55 posted on 02/08/2008 5:47:28 AM PST by TADSLOS (Estoy Juan McCain y apruebo este mensaje!)
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To: TommyDale
Call me cynical. I believe that when all the counts are final, and all the analyses are completed, we will find that conservatives by the millions sat home and did not vote in the primaries through Super Tuesday. The other half of the Republican Party was denied a chance to even select a candidate. Think about that.

Actually, the candidate was selected for everyone whether they liked it or not. McCain was toast after the CIR debacle. Then out of the clear blue sky, he was frontrunner.

I can remember no loud cries from the GOP sheeple to move McLame to the top of the pile. He was the last person we would have wanted. So who was behind it? The same people that made sure that any conservative candidate that didn't want open borders and amnesty would never see the light of day.

This was no fluke, you know. It was a planned out strategy, because we are going to get open borders, cheap labor, and national healthcare, whether we like it or not. Business is tired of having healthcare on their backs and they want the taxpayers to foot the bill for their cheap labor.

McLame knows he isn't going to win, he is just working for those who are furthering the agenda.

56 posted on 02/08/2008 5:47:54 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Actually I think that's what got us in this mess in the first place. We elected people just because of the R in front of their names and forgot about the INO.

That is true. But at least the R's in Congress are a little more beholden to their constinuency. Look at what happened last year during the immigration debacle. The base spoke up loud and clear and managed to shut that down at least temporarily.

57 posted on 02/08/2008 5:48:27 AM PST by txlurker
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To: jmaroneps37; Dr. Eckleburg; xzins; Terriergal
They have unfairly called Mormonism a cult

It is a cult. What's the point? Just because someone is a member of a cult doesn't disqualify them from public office.

58 posted on 02/08/2008 5:49:05 AM PST by Gamecock (I'm leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again....)
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To: indylindy

You are quite wise, indylindy. This is the story in a nutshell. McCain being a nut.


59 posted on 02/08/2008 5:50:45 AM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: indylindy
I can remember no loud cries from the GOP sheeple to move McLame to the top of the pile. He was the last person we would have wanted. So who was behind it? The same people that made sure that any conservative candidate that didn't want open borders and amnesty would never see the light of day.

You said it well. Establishment politics. Those inside DC could give a rats a@@ about those outside the beltway. Even if they are responsible for creating slave labor in the process.

60 posted on 02/08/2008 5:52:46 AM PST by txlurker
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