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I think we can destroy Hillary and we should help Hillary beat Obama in Primaries such as Texas where Pubs can vote too in Democratic Primaries.

Yes your nose would really hurt from pinching it so hard after voting for Hillary in Texas Primary. But you have to help the Dems nominate the weaker candidate.

1 posted on 02/09/2008 11:46:03 PM PST by The_Republican
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To: The_Republican
if you're not one, then try to imagine what it must be like being a black american.

I would expect the highest % of the population to vote in our history.

2 posted on 02/09/2008 11:50:45 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: The_Republican

And what’s to be done with the liberal media?


3 posted on 02/09/2008 11:52:47 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: The_Republican

“I heard Fred Barnes...”

Fred Barnes??? Talk about a guy who can widen the enthusiasm gap even further!


5 posted on 02/10/2008 12:00:59 AM PST by Will88 ( The Worst Case Scenario: McCain with a Dhimm majority in the House and Senate)
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To: The_Republican

Voting for Hillary is one of the most harmful things you can do to this country. If she makes it to the general election, she has at least a 50 percent chance of winning. You’re playing with fire. She’s liberal AND corrupt. Her husband is liberal AND corrupt. The Obamas are just liberal. I’d much rather have the Obamas in the White House if it’s gonna be a Democrat year.


6 posted on 02/10/2008 12:01:16 AM PST by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: The_Republican
"This amongst many other reasons is why I am TRULY HAPPY AND EXCITED about Mac being our presumptive nominee!!!"

After watching Obama tonight I am convinced more than ever that McCain will get his A** kicked in November and, in the process, will pull many, many otherwise good conservative Republicans down with him. This is the fruit of your efforts and I respectfully ask you and the others to recognize the consequences of your actions not only on yourselves but on the rest of us.

Sorry. With all due respect, you and others have constructed this unworkable machine and I doubt you will be able to enlist the support of those who have been ignored in order to try to fix it. The so-called enthusiasm gap is really just a shrug by people who would otherwise be energetically involved had they not been disenfranchised in this sham - And yes, IMO it IS a sham.

McCain is acclaimed the presumptive nominee after 'Winning' everything with an average of about 35% of the votes in these stacked Primarie? Give me a break.

I could go on but it is late and, from what I've seen from McCain Bots or Party Bots around here, you do not really care what I and many others think. You just want us to get in line and accept this treatment 'For the good of the Party'. Doesn't fly with me and I suspect I am not alone in this response.

8 posted on 02/10/2008 12:16:15 AM PST by TCats (The Clintons Are Not Just Wrong - They Are Certifiable AND Dangerous! See my Page)
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I think the turnout gap and the contribution gap are for much more basic reasons:

People are just fed up with the terrible leadership and conduct of republicans from the president on down.

The almost total abandonment of conservative fiscal and social principles by the president and Republicans in Congress.

Such as:

Record high spending by republicans in congress and the president over the last 7 years.

The McCain/Kennedy/Bush Immigration-Shamnesty disaster.

The conduct and attitude of Republican leadership (including the president) toward the base during the McCain/Kennedy/Bush Immigration disaster.
The name calling, the insults, the indignation that we dared try to influence the outcome.

Massively expensive new liberal style entitlements initiated and passed by Republicans.

Almost no use of the veto to control spending, earmarks, pork.

High inflation on the cost of gasoline and food.

Failure of the President to push construction of the Border Fence. His foot dragging hasn’t fooled anyone.

Failure of the President to push aggresive enforcement of laws against employers of illegals. His foot dragging here hasn’t fooled anyone either.


9 posted on 02/10/2008 12:16:44 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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You don't really think Mclaim can beat either Obama or Hillary do you?

He can't of course.. many republicans wont go to vote at all and many that do will not vote for ANY presidential candiate of either party.. Some will vote for the House and or Senate but not President.. if its Mclaim..

If the economy tanks better the democrats get the blame.. They WILL raise taxs bad for a stressed economy.. OH!.. and the Muzzies will "sense" a weak (military) government who knows what they will do.. The democrats are all about caving in and the evil powers know it..

12 posted on 02/10/2008 12:25:16 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: The_Republican

No matter how enthusiastic you are your vote still only counts once.


21 posted on 02/10/2008 12:49:00 AM PST by Moral Hazard (This election mess is Iowa's fault. From 2012 on make them vote last (or not at all).)
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To: The_Republican

FoxNews played a big role in developing the “Enthusiasm Gap.”


22 posted on 02/10/2008 12:51:29 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media Controls Our Party. Go, RINOS!)
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To: The_Republican
Your analysis is flawed to say the least.

First, low Republican turnout is directly because the last straw has been cast on the proverbial camel's back. The betrayal of the party's principles by our leadership, culminating in the immigration fiasco is precisely why there is no turnout and why the RNC's money spigots have gone dry.

There is no "enthusiasm" gap. The Conservatives are very enthusiastically pissed off at the leadership. They stand adamantly against them, and none will galvanize them more than the Traitorous Bastard, the single most hated and distrusted man since Chaffee left the party.

Secondly, McCain, as a Baker moderate, will only be an extension of the same ignoble path that Bush, another Baker moderate, and his father (yet another) have lead us down. To elect McCain would only reward the Baker wing for their infamy by extending their dynasty for the foreseeable future. That is *not* going to happen.

It doesn't matter a bit who the Traitorous Bastard might pick for a VP other than Thompson (who would only raise the ire), simply because there is nothing on earth that removes the stench of having to vote for the Benedict Arnold of Conservatism.

There is no salve to heal the wounds laid upon us by this self same pile of offal and the treasonous wing of the party that whelped him. No balm exists to remove his sneering countenance from before our eyes, nor one that would allow us to accept him as the keeper of our faithfulness as he walks our hallowed halls. He is completely beyond redemption, no matter what vapid promises pass his lying lips.

Thirdly, Bush cannot regain the ground lost with Conservatives any more than the Dixie Chicks can win back the hearts of rednecks. He long ago passed from "hero" to "hell no", and is so far past "OH HELL NO!" that he would be best to just stfu and wander off to KennedysBunkMatePort and go fishing with the old man. The first rule of holes applies in triplicate, and in capital, bold-faced letters.

If there was an ounce of concern for the party and for our troops in the hearts of these greedy power mongers, they would cede their control back to the Conservative wing in every way possible- Both house leaderships and the RNC, not to mention every administrative cabinet position, to give us a chance of straightening out this mess in time to have a shot at election.

But lets not kid ourselves. That isn't going to happen. They think they can pack our various orifices full of sand yet again. After all, where are we going to go?

The only way to dig these cockroaches out of their positions is to crater the party. And I don't mean any old regular crater. This deserves a crater of mythic proportions. An historic event so dire and unprecedented that our grandchildren will still be hearing the echoes pounding down through time. The politicians of that time should run in terror at the thought of being "McCained". Only such an event would give the Traitorous Bastard what he truly deserves. Absolute and utter failure.

/rant

37 posted on 02/10/2008 1:43:40 AM PST by roamer_1 (Conservative always, Republican no more.)
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To: The_Republican
The last two "moderate" candidates the Republicans nominated were Ford and Dole.

You figure it out.
48 posted on 02/10/2008 3:22:51 AM PST by cgbg (That heat you feel is not global warming. It is the wicked witch melting melting.)
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“I think we can destroy Hillary and we should help Hillary beat Obama in Primaries such as Texas where Pubs can vote too in Democratic Primaries.”

Good call. I believe Hillary will be far easier to beat if she is the nominee.


53 posted on 02/10/2008 5:00:15 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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