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Why many conservatives can't vote for McCain
The Everett Herald ^ | February 10, 2008 | Mona Charen

Posted on 02/10/2008 2:42:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I posted a squib on the National Review Web site about a robo call I received from John McCain. (Virginia's primary is Tuesday.) The call stressed that he would, if elected, be a down-the-line limited government conservative who would never raise taxes, would defend life, would enforce immigration laws and would win the war on terror. The candidate is trying, I said, to meet conservatives "more than halfway." The response of readers was, shall we say, emphatic.

One lady wrote that she would never vote for him as "He is the most disloyal, ill-tempered man and he brings out the worse in all of us. ..." Several readers made the point that after decades of suffering abuse at McCain's hands, conservatives are not going to fall into line for him now, no matter what blandishments he offers.

I know how they feel. The problem with McCain is not just that he strays. George Bush has strayed from conservatism, too. So has Fred Thompson. Certainly Mitt Romney has as well. But Sen. McCain has a knack for saying things in just the tones and accents that liberals prefer. In 2000, he condemned the late Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson as "agents of intolerance." In 2004, when Sen. John Kerry was getting his comeuppance from the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, vets who had known him during the war and couldn't remain silent as the Democratic nominee distorted his war record, McCain weighed in by calling the Swift Boaters "dishonorable and dishonest." When the Bush Administration was being vilified as a nest of Torquemadas for using waterboarding on three occasions, McCain came forward to condemn waterboarding as torture.

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To: Ratblaster
McCain has “known” more men than Hillary ever will. I won’t be a b!tchs b!tch.

I am forced to stand back and goggle helplessly, in mute admiration, of an anger and contempt towering far, far above even my justly fabled own. ;)

41 posted on 02/10/2008 4:29:38 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: kjo

You can’t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 02/10/2008 4:30:36 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Tom_Busch

I live in Florida where many folks don’t even know their names.


43 posted on 02/10/2008 4:31:10 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

What a wasted vote!


44 posted on 02/10/2008 4:31:40 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I am humbled by your praise.


45 posted on 02/10/2008 4:32:49 AM PST by Ratblaster (HILLARY 08 Bring Back the Crooked Hillbillies)
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To: Court Watcher

“The Stupid Republican Liberal Top Party Power Brokers GRAVELY MISJUDGED CONSERVATIVES.”

Elites in ivory towers and board rooms tend to do that because they have no contact with the heart of the party, conservatives who do all the pre-election drudge work. This year, we will see how the elites get along without us. It ought to be quite an experience.
I don’t care if John McKennedy loses this election any more than I cared that Bob Dole lost. These “moderates” would govern so much like Democrats that we wouldn’t know the difference anyway.


46 posted on 02/10/2008 4:32:56 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kjo

Either remake the party or create a new REAL conservative one if this one continues to be dem lite.


47 posted on 02/10/2008 4:33:01 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: JaneNC

A lot of people are frightened of their shadows and will just have to go hide under their beds for the next four years. I’ve seen too much and done too much to be frightened by much, and that includes two inept, empty Democrat suits.

Hillary or Obama will be the next President. The Dems have two fairly weak candidates, so to counter that, the Republicans have we put up the weakest candidate possible, a sick, probably crazy and/or senile old man with forty years of dirt for the Dems to dig up and play with. The Stupid Party strikes again.


48 posted on 02/10/2008 4:33:30 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (“I will offer a choice, not an echo.” Barry Goldwater)
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To: Bill S
I’ve vowed NEVER to vote for the traitor McCain. However, I’v rethought, and will eat my words because, I despise the Dems more than McClain.
49 posted on 02/10/2008 4:34:12 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

Repentance is a hard thing. I would be interested in any evidence that there is any going on.


50 posted on 02/10/2008 4:34:39 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Ratblaster
By golly... who says Ol' Juan McCain isn't a natural born uniter after all, eh...? ;)
51 posted on 02/10/2008 4:37:14 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Rasmussen conducted a poll then chose not to release the date last week. I will tell you roughly hat it said.

Scott Rasmussen of Rassmusen Reports conducted a poll of only “Highly Conservative Republicans”. The pool showed that as much as 16 % of Highly Conservative Republicans Voters, said they would never vote for John McCain under “Any Circumstances”.

The poll if it holds to till November guarantees “John McAin will lose in the General Election. Last night only confirmed this pools data.

Scott Rasmussen chose to pull the poll for reasons unknown. but i suspect it was to “prevent panic” in republican circles.

He noted that in this poll even if that hostility dies down “considerably” even if a percentage of only 3 % of Hardcore Conservatives DID NOT SHOW UP,

McCain could never overcome a loss of base support, even if he Doubled the independent vote Bush recieved, in the 2004 General Election.

Looks like The Voters who Thought McCain was more Electable in 2008, sadly did believe the Conservative OutRage and contempt Conservatives like myself have for John McCain.


52 posted on 02/10/2008 4:38:41 AM PST by Court Watcher
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To: don-o
Well then pray for a huge revival.
53 posted on 02/10/2008 4:39:04 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Can anyone legally publish and post full, unredacted copies of the Vietnamese interrogation papers for McCain that ended up in the hands of the GRU, which may or may not have been forwarded to some unspecified people? The original documents in Vietnamese, scanned into PDF would help, plus a “translated” version, which can be double-checked against the original autographa, for all to see and examine.


54 posted on 02/10/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (The US Constitution is the best political document in History. GOD BLESS THE USA!)
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To: jonrick46

Out of ordinary courtesy, and solely because were both making “nice” with one another now: you’ll doubtless find #52 of some interest. ;)


55 posted on 02/10/2008 4:46:44 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("John McCain is to conservatism what Cindy Sheehan is to the Miss Universe Pageant.")
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To: Coldwater Creek
Here's what repentance once looked like. Think we'll hear such from anyone in our Political World? Maybe from Keyes or Paul, but, of course they are nuts...

______________________________________________

By the President of the United States of America.

A Proclamation.

Whereas, the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the Supreme Authority and just Government of Almighty God, in all the affairs of men and of nations, has, by a resolution, requested the President to designate and set apart a day for National prayer and humiliation.

And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.

And, insomuch as we know that, by His divine law, nations like individuals are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war, which now desolates the land, may be but a punishment, inflicted upon us, for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole People? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven. We have been preserved, these many years, in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us!

It behooves us then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th. day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.

All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less than the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace.

In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the City of Washington, this thirtieth day of March, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty seventh.

By the President: Abraham Lincoln

William H. Seward, Secretary of State.

56 posted on 02/10/2008 4:50:41 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't listen to McCain's promises of the moment: observe his actions. This is the man John McCain chose to be his "Hispanic Outreach Director." Hernandez is a verified traitor. Born in Dallas he decided as an adult to become a dual-national Mexican citizen. His last "real" job was serving in Mexican President Vicente Fox's cabinet as his "American Reconquista Director." After that gig ran out, he worked for George Soros funded internationalist foundations, like the one that published his book.

Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation." The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA.

And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." In the past week he was asked about this choice, and McCain said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions. If so, McCain is supporting invasion and reconquista.

Remember: Benedict Arnold was also a genuine war hero, who lost a leg and suffered months of agonizing recovery...before he became a traitor.

57 posted on 02/10/2008 4:51:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: don-o

God is Just. He did, after all, save both Noah and Lot. Do not despair, we must wake up everyday and fight with every ounce of our strength. Obama cannot co-opt the virtue of hope.

I think his slogan started out “Got Dope” and someone just couldn’t spell.


58 posted on 02/10/2008 4:55:45 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: piytar

The issue for me is Amnesty. If Mc is the president urging it on Congress there will be less opposition among Republicans in a Congress that is more Democrat of what it is now. Amnesty will pass and voila! 12-40 million new Democrats with A big chunk of the remaining Central American and Mexican population headed north. And he will NOT build the wall. The next Congress will have nothing to do with a wall and will not fund any sort of border restrictions. Amnesty bids to make the Republican Party into a quaint local party with also a couple of dozen congressmen and a senator or two.


59 posted on 02/10/2008 4:55:57 AM PST by arthurus
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To: ALPAPilot

Thomas Jefferson, though not a Christian, recognized that.

“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.”


60 posted on 02/10/2008 5:01:14 AM PST by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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