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HIV can 'never be cured' - AIDS virus thwarts even the best drugs by hiding in the gut.
Nature News ^ | 14 February 2008 | Michael Hopkin

Posted on 02/14/2008 10:07:27 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

I remember hearing 20 years ago that no virus had ever been cured. It’s probably still true, but what the hey, let’s pour a bunch more money down this rathole.


21 posted on 02/14/2008 11:47:19 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: ROP_RIP

Personally I would be more worried about herpes. It is incurable and extremely common. It won’t kill you but you’ll have to deal with outbreaks for the rest of your life. Not worth it.

True!


22 posted on 02/14/2008 11:59:14 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great, why is Osama doing so well?)
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To: neverdem

“It’s not a death sentence.”

Ok buddy, infect yourself and see if you feel that way.

Putz.


23 posted on 02/15/2008 12:10:50 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: ROP_RIP

“Your chances of getting HIV from normal, heterosexual activity with individuals who are not in a high-risk group is close to zero.”

True, but your chances of genital herpes, chlymadia or pregnancy are pretty high. Not as bad as AIDS, but they are serious repercussions.


24 posted on 02/15/2008 12:14:38 AM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: wastedyears

I think a lot of times, people view God’s laws, like the ones that forbid sex outside of marriage, as some sort of pleasure-squelching negativity.

I see the marriage requirement as a blessing. It is the perfect protection for people He loves. If you wait until you’re married, and your wife does the same, you will never be at risk for any STDs of any kind. Pregnancy, even if unplanned, will be at least ok and probably fantastic. You can do it without worries of any kind. Statistically, you’ll have the best sex (whether you are male or female).

Jealousy issues are almost non-existent. Abortions within a marriage are rare. Any children you have will be so much better off in so many ways, just for having a married mom and dad.

Why do we insist so much on going outside God’s plan? Do we see Him as our enemy or something?


25 posted on 02/15/2008 12:19:36 AM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: wastedyears

Marriage is irrelevant any more, just a piece of paper for most people. I worry about the ideas and teaching of Jesus, not what some self annointed official made up long afterward.

As for AIDS... don’t have sex with other men, and don’t share needles. There, I’ve cured it! Now I don’t know if it’s a manmade virus or whatever, but I don’t feel one bit sorry for those infected except those infected via blood transfusion.


26 posted on 02/15/2008 12:27:32 AM PST by Rob112586 ("...a decrease in the quantity of legislation generally means an increase in the quality of life.")
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To: djf; Global2010
Being a retrovirus, it doesn’t need to hide in the gut. It can clone itself right into the cells DNA.

IIRC, if immune system cells express the HIV receptors CD4, CCR5, and CXCR4, typically on T-cells, and then they are infected after exposure to HIV, then those cells will replicate the virus until the death of those cells, gut or wherever. This study just confirmed some immunological expectations or fears for the gut, IMHO.

27 posted on 02/15/2008 1:02:39 AM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: Post5203
"Never" is a long time. There are many companies working towards a cure for AIDS and many other "incurable" diseases. Scientists need to outsmart these viruses.
I agree. I think the cure for AIDS, when it comes, will be part of a more general cure for all viruses, including those engineered by bioterrorists. I believe that cure will come in the form of some kind of semi-intelligent nanotech that will patrol the body like a parallel immune system.

What could slow that development way down, of course, is a demo presidency that would "clamp down on evil drug companies" and make all technological development in the health fields grind nearly to a halt. Even so, interest in this subject is so high, human ingenuity is so great (even when slowed by the yoke of socialism) and nanotech is so promising that I think eventually we will have a way to run "anti-virus routines" on the human body.

28 posted on 02/15/2008 1:41:34 AM PST by samtheman (McCain: Not as good as a real Republican, not as bad as a real Democrat.)
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To: Rob112586
As for AIDS... don’t have sex with other men, and don’t share needles. There, I’ve cured it! Now I don’t know if it’s a manmade virus or whatever, but I don’t feel one bit sorry for those infected except those infected via blood transfusion.

Well said!

AIDS = God's Fist.

Owl_Eagle

”You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being”

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

29 posted on 02/15/2008 1:47:10 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: neverdem
*BUMP* !
30 posted on 02/15/2008 2:05:04 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Kevmo

>>>I remember hearing 20 years ago that no virus had ever been cured. It’s probably still true, but what the hey, let’s pour a bunch more money down this rathole.

In other words if something has never been done, it’s a waste of money to try. Scientists and engineers have forever had to fight that attitude.

And no virus ever will be cured if the research doesn’t find a technique. A breakthrough on one virus will open the door to the means of attacking them all. It’s not just a matter of AIDS and homosexuals. It just happens that circumstances have conspired to make them into politically correct human guinea pigs.


31 posted on 02/15/2008 2:11:05 AM PST by tlb
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To: Rob112586
As for AIDS... don’t have sex with other men, and don’t share needles. There, I’ve cured it!

Now watch as the left goes into headspins, a la Linda Blair in the Exocist...

32 posted on 02/15/2008 2:16:14 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Kevmo
"that no virus had ever been cured"

I always thought the same and brought it up in another thread and it was pointed out there are a ton of virus vaccines; the smallpox vaccine, the common flu shot, diphtheria, measles, yellow fever, even polio.

Another Freeper pointed to adefovir dipivoxil as an actual cure.

I think the "no cure" thing comes from the fact that there's no cure for the common cold.

Of course this doesn't mean that HIV will even have a cure or a vaccine, but I thought it was interesting.

33 posted on 02/15/2008 2:29:01 AM PST by Proud_texan (Stop global whining)
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To: neverdem

First of all, any sort of healing requires also moral healing and taking care of one self. No amount of drugs help anyone who does not take care of themselves.

If the drug does not metabolizes its effectiveness in the stomach, then, obviously, the patient might be doing something that prevents that.


34 posted on 02/15/2008 4:07:59 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: neverdem

“The finding underlines HIV’s status as an ‘incurable’ infection”.

Can someone give me a list of some diseases that have actually been cured in, say, the last 30 years? Let’s not include any successes due to immunization or surgery, just medicine.

We’ve walked, run, worn ribbons and raised Billions for the cure. So what diseases have been cured?


35 posted on 02/15/2008 4:16:12 AM PST by trenton1776 (The Great Conservative Revolt of '08 is Underway)
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To: Marie2
Ponder this

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness
through the lusts of their own hearts,
to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:"

36 posted on 02/15/2008 4:46:54 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: neverdem

bookmark


37 posted on 02/15/2008 6:28:22 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: neverdem

This is why HIV/AIDS is such a hotbutton for the left.

Liberalism is all about using the force of government to force those who make good decisions to pay for and alleviate the consequences for those who make poor behavioral decisions - ESPECIALLY when it comes to sexual behaviors. Abortion is the penultimate example of this - the MOST innocent is made to pay, with its life, for the sexual behaviors of others.

They are absolutely flummoxed that, in the case of this disease, the old prescription isn’t, and can’t work. This drives them even more (moon)batty.


38 posted on 02/15/2008 6:31:30 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Marie2

You are assured that you will be successful and prosperous if you follow God’s plan.

Leftists would be hard pressed to show someone who didn’t have a good life doing so.

Joshua 1:8
Do not let this Book of the Law depart from your mouth; meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do everything written in it. Then you will be prosperous and successful.


39 posted on 02/15/2008 7:04:31 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: neverdem

A person can smoke, drink, eat sugar and white bread, be 50 pounds overweight and still be healthier than the average “health club” gay... time the MSM got real about health.


40 posted on 02/15/2008 7:36:08 AM PST by GOPJ (Take your ball - go home - sit this one out? Fifty years of liberal Supreme Court decisions? NO WAY.)
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