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HIV can 'never be cured' - AIDS virus thwarts even the best drugs by hiding in the gut.
Nature News ^ | 14 February 2008 | Michael Hopkin

Posted on 02/14/2008 10:07:27 PM PST by neverdem

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To: CarrotAndStick

I wouldn’t really want a woman like that, anyway.

I’ll be checking pupils as clarification.


41 posted on 02/15/2008 9:21:24 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Marie2

I don’t see as a way to hold back any potential pleasure I might have.

I’m 22 and I haven’t even kissed a girl yet. Mostly because nobody would want to kiss me, but that’s another story. (I like Rodney Dangerfield)

I do like to have a few drinks every once in a while, so I hope that I won’t go passed the point of no return, and drop my pants for anybody. I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself.

It’s also something my friends would cheer me for.


42 posted on 02/15/2008 9:24:31 AM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Kevmo

Polio and smallpox have been reduced to virtually non-existent threats to public health. Hepatitis B, Chickenpox and shingles (same virus) all have effective vaccines.


43 posted on 02/15/2008 9:30:03 AM PST by CholeraJoe (A day without a deleted post is like a day without sunshine)
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To: CholeraJoe

Once you get Polio, what is the cure? Prevention is one thing, but for all the focus on cures, there really isn’t much hope.


44 posted on 02/15/2008 9:40:15 AM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: Kevmo

Only a small number of polio cases progress to permanent paralysis. Most of them “cure” themselves.


45 posted on 02/15/2008 9:49:03 AM PST by CholeraJoe (A day without a deleted post is like a day without sunshine)
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To: tlb

In other words if something has never been done, it’s a waste of money to try. Scientists and engineers have forever had to fight that attitude.
***I didn’t say that. Note that you said it, as a straw argument so that you could argue against it. I am an engineer so I’m fully aware of the attitude you point out, but you have misidentified it as belonging to me because you chose the path of straw argumentation. AIDS is a disease that gets about 10X the research resources compared to the number of deaths when you compare it to things like heart disease, diabetes, toenail fungus, whatever. It’s a rathole.

And no virus ever will be cured if the research doesn’t find a technique.
***I’m all for it, right after we solve a bunch of other problems that kill more people than AIDS does. AIDS is a fully preventable disease for >95% of its recipients.

A breakthrough on one virus will open the door to the means of attacking them all.
***And a breakthrough on diabetes or some other disease could help open the door to knocking down viruses. So long as we’re pouring money down ratholes, it should be proprotional money down proportional ratholes that are responsible for a proportional amount of deaths.

It’s not just a matter of AIDS and homosexuals. It just happens that circumstances have conspired to make them into politically correct human guinea pigs.
***Well, that part I agree with. If the patient is gonna die anyways, might as well use experimental treatments in the hopes that something will be learned.


46 posted on 02/15/2008 9:58:49 AM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: CholeraJoe

So, for the ones that don’t “cure themselves”, there is no cure, right?

Is there a cure for any virus? There are treatments for viruses, but it still sounds like there’s no cures. And since there’s a vaccine for Polio, that would point to the right direction for research for viruses — prevention rather than cure.


47 posted on 02/15/2008 10:02:52 AM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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To: neverdem

Nanotech will redefine what can and can’t be done. And there won’t be many “can’ts” left.


48 posted on 02/15/2008 10:06:27 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Kevmo
From: Long: Principles and Practice of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, 2nd ed., 2003

"There are antiviral drugs that accelerate recovery from viral illnesses. For example, the following agents could be considered for treatment of specific viruses: ganciclovir for cytomegalovirus, acyclovir for varicella-zoster virus or herpes simplex virus, amantidine or rimantidine for influenza A, neuraminidase inhibitors for influenza A or B, pleconaril for enteroviruses, and ribavirin systemically for parainfluenza and respiratory syncytial viruses."

I'm not sure what your definition of "cure" is but if it's complete recovery without disability and no need for ongoing treatment, several of these meet that criteria.

50 posted on 02/15/2008 10:51:31 AM PST by CholeraJoe (A day without a deleted post is like a day without sunshine)
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To: wastedyears
Not trying to save myself but at least I don’t go around having sex with random women.

Yup, you never know when their number is up, for one thing.

51 posted on 02/15/2008 11:46:56 AM PST by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Sounds good enough to me.

Of course, I still think pouring down money on an AIDS cure is a rathole, and the money rathole should be proportionate to number of fatalities for each disease. But it’s nice to see that a supposed cure for at least one virus has been found.


52 posted on 02/15/2008 10:13:21 PM PST by Kevmo (SURFRINAGWIASS : Shut Up RINOs. Free Republic is not a GOP Website. It’s a SOCON Site.)
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