Posted on 02/22/2008 5:46:14 PM PST by DWPittelli
Hillary Clinton hasn't publicly conceded the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, of course. But I have seen a significant new piece of evidence indicating that she has given up, that her actions show she is no longer acting primarily to win the election, but rather to position herself better if she loses. (Psychologically, her closing speech last night has been widely discussed as possibly hinting at the same thing.)
What's the news? She has sent out invitations to Massachusetts supporters that she will be in Boston this Sunday (Feb 24), holding a fundraiser dinner (a $5,000 per table “Conversation with Hillary” that is “In Support of Hillary Clinton for President”). Now she could hold a fundraiser just as easily in a state that still has a primary to come. But she is instead in Massachusetts because whatever differential in cash she can get by being in Boston instead of in Texas or Ohio (or Rhode Island, where she will be earlier in the day) more than outweighs the advantage she could get in votes by showing up in a still-relevant state.
The other interpretation of this news is that she's so broke that she must maximize income even at the cost of not being in relevant states with upcoming primaries. This is different, but almost as good news for Hillary's opponents to right and left – and almost as disheartening to her supporters. It is at least as telling on this score as the news that she has recently loaned her campaign $5 million of her "personal" money.
Most likely, both things are true: Hillary is now more interested in getting her $5 million back than she is in maximizing her chances of winning. She is no longer fighting for the nomination.
Ah so somebody else got the impression she was begging for the #2 slot ?...interesting...I thought she was just too chummy with BHO and he seemed to pull back away from her as if to say he’ll make his own decisions...
I'm with you.
McCain won with few Republican votes and almost no conservative support. You think he won fair and square. I do not. By the time my state voted, McCain had sewn up the nomination. I had no say. I will not vote for McCain. I will vote for other Repubs. McCain will lose in my opinion. There is no real enthusiasm for McCain. He spent years stabbing conservatives in the back. Why should we support him? I see no reason to believe McCain will act in a conservative manner if elected. I have a very simple reason for not voting for McCain-McCain/Feingold.
That’s stuff - who will be VP - is done behind closed doors. I don’t think she would be chummy in front of O to butter him up in front of all. She was just ‘trying’ to present herself differently, because the ‘other person’ didn’t work. And be agreeable for the ‘party’ - I think Jesse J came out and said that.
She'll probably be in the Senate until she croaks.
I have no idea. Some like me are completely fed up and will go to the polls and vote for other GOP candidates-but not McCain. I think plenty will stay home and not vote at all which will be a disaster for the GOP in congress. Consider this, the country is closely divided apparently. If only a small percentage of conservatives stay home...the GOP will lose.
I could care a less about McCain, but I think it is a shame about congress.
No, I probably still wouldn't vote for him in the general because I do not feel that he is a good candidate to be President, for many reasons.
However, I don't think I would feel as resentful about the process - at least it would be more fair.
I've been a Republican for 34 years & I've worked hard for the party. I've made phone calls, bought 100's of bumper stickers and handed them out, put signs in my yard & place of business, had heated discussions with friends, neighbors & customers over my support for George W. Bush & others, have written letters to the editor, etc. I've voted in every single election.
But, the last two years have been revealing and heartbreaking for me. The party that I thought was great, and that I thought represented the little guy that gets up every day and does the best he can - that stood up for the life of an unborn baby, that wasn't ashamed to be patriotic and protective of our country........I don't recognize that party anymore....and I don't want to be a member of it anymore. I have no more loyalty left to give.
I think Ronald Reagan was the fluke in the party - the aberration - the exception to the rule. The rest of our leaders have been......mediocre, to say the least. They basically are a bunch of country club globalist elites that would do anything for the almighty buck - even if it means leaving our borders wide open so that they can have all the cheap labor and votes they can get.
Frankly, I don't care what happens to the republican party anymore - everyone respects John McCain because he is a "maverick" in his own party - but I'm a spoiled child having a tantrum when I choose to be a maverick.
Obama probably will win - most people I talk to really like him. They say he's young, articulate & "fresh". This was not a good year to trot tired old Hillary and McCain out.
I'm feeling distinctly "unwelcome" in the party anymore, so I'm just going to get out & be an independent voter.
You don't see the confusion here?
I was thinking today how for the past twenty years McCain has declared himself a "maverick." No one could tell him what to do. Now that he needs conservative votes he wants us to all circle the wagons. Sorry, now I'm the maverick ...who will not be voting for McCain.
The GOP should have learned their lesson in 2006-conservatives were not enthusiastic and the GOP paid the price as they will in 2008.
Geez it's just one big conspiracy with you isn't it?
Everything was rigged. Rigged for Rudy? Dang that didn't work did it?
So if the conservatives, as you describe them, are such a voting block just who did they vote for? Surely that person would still be in the running!
You speak far more eloquently than I...I agree with every single word. If the McCainiacs are so sure they can win without conservatives then have at it. Why do you care what a ‘few’ conservatives do?
We lost Congress in 2006 and it had nothing to do with McCain.
It’s not a conspiracy. I have no doubt RHINO’s believe they must have the ‘moderate’ vote to succeed. They set out to ensure a moderate candidate was nominated. The problem is the RHINO’s are wrong about this and will surely lose.
Yes there will be emotional hotheads who will throw their little tandrums. I can’t help that. But elections are ALWAYS comparative choices. I will vote for John McCain.
When Clintons start being “nice” watch out! She won’t go down without a fight - this is her lifelong dream and its not something she would just “give in” on because of money. The other interesting thing about this whole election cycle is what it may do to Bill Clinton’s future speaking engagements. I think he has worn out his welcome with his So. Carolina remarks on Obama’s win and he’s been nothing but an idiot whenever he opens his mouth@ The best thing that could come out of this election is that Bill and Hill lose millions, lose the election, and lose their standing with the democrats!
We lost congress because the the RHINO’s behaved like big spending Dems and engaged in unsavory behavior. A depressed conservative base did not support the GOP who subsequently lost.
She is still flip-flopping on the issue last time I noticed.
On this issue, and an important one to me, Hillary wins. Albeit, narrowly.
Reminds me of the Dems “win at all costs” in ‘98.
They stuck with Slick Willie in ‘98 because they were more concerned about winning than doing what was right.
They lost all integrity and they knew it. “Oral sex isn’t sex?” “Depends what the meaning of ‘is’ is.” LOL.
This issue is more than just about “my ox.” The issue is bigger than that.
Great leaders in our history risked their “oxes” and fought for what was right. This is what made this country great.
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