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New evidence challenges official picture of (Bobby) Kennedy shooting
Guardian (UK) ^ | Feb.22, 08

Posted on 02/24/2008 9:30:44 PM PST by Rennes Templar

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To: al baby

Why did you?


21 posted on 02/24/2008 10:09:34 PM PST by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"—Ronald Reagan)
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To: tlb
Kennedy’s bodyguard was armed with the same caliber pistol as Sirhan.

As I remember it, the caliber was .22.

Now I have no issue with Sirhan using that caliber, but a .22 seems just totally wrong for a bodyguard, where stopping power is an issue.

22 posted on 02/24/2008 10:11:06 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Rennes Templar

Rock on, Rennes Templar

23 posted on 02/24/2008 10:11:45 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: JRios1968

Why did you?


24 posted on 02/24/2008 10:12:30 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: Rennes Templar

You don’t suppose the ‘odd acoustic characteristics’ were because those ‘shots’ were echos, do you?


25 posted on 02/24/2008 10:13:41 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: singfreedom

I can tell you that the assassination changed the way a presidential hotel runs things.

I worked as a young chef in L.A.’s Century Plaza Hotel when President Reagan used it as his Western White House. Every hotel employee was ID’ed at the only employee entrance, and wearing his/her employee photo ID at all times.

When Reagan was there, there were SS officers WITH DOGS everywhere. I personally prepared the President’s lunch salad with SS all around me, and a dog, in the kitchen.

Also, the hotel had completely separate corridors and elevators for the service personnel AS WELL AS THE VIPS, with no way for these hallways to be entered by the general public. Separate, sealed parking lots underground as well.

At the time, the Presidential Suite (penthouse floor, can be seen in “In the Line of Fire”) was built with such deep terraces all around that shooting inside from even a helicopter would have proven extremely difficult if not impossible. Now there are some buildings of equal stature around, which changes things.


26 posted on 02/24/2008 10:14:03 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: SlapHappyPappy; archy
I’ve seen some interesting theories. My personal favorite is that an off duty cop, directly behind Bobby, accidentally shot Kennedy after being knocked down by the mayhem. Interestingly he not only had a gun of the right caliber, he got rid of both that gun and the gun he claimed to have with him under suspicious circumstances. Neither was ever made available for ballistics tests. And the cop? He left the country.

archy, I believe you've posted on this topic before. Care to jump in?

27 posted on 02/24/2008 10:14:20 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Sirhan had long dealt with anger over Israel’s creation in 1948. Sirhan supposedly believed he was deliberately betrayed by Kennedy’s support for Israel in the June 1967 Six-Day War, which had begun exactly one year before the assassination.


28 posted on 02/24/2008 10:17:26 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York Times Endorsed!!!)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
While I didn't know anything about the "off-duty" cop per se, I do know one of the officers on the LAPD detail that was assigned to protect RFK. He told me that RFK or someone on his staff to get away from him and stay away from him. Hence there was no LAPD officer anywhere near him at the Coconut Grove restaurant where the shooting occurred.

As I recall, (although I could be mistaken) RFK was shot with a .22 caliber revolver that held 9 shots. It seems strange that an off-duty cop would be carrying a .22. In those days most carried .38's.

29 posted on 02/24/2008 10:18:41 PM PST by oneolcop (Take off the gloves!)
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To: Rennes Templar
Oh! come on everybody knows the Mob offed him..
After all the help the Mob performed for the Kennedys..
The Kennedys both of them were very ungratiful..
Teddy of course is owned by them, the murder and all that..

Of cource democracy is Mob Rule by mobsters always..
Which causes socialism or the Mobs Protection scam..
They charge you to protect you FROM THEM.. You know IRS and all that..

30 posted on 02/24/2008 10:18:52 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: CurlyDave
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"..Sirhan had chipped in only $6 in the purchase by his brother Munir of the $25 murder weapon. Fitts also noted that the day before the shooting, Sirhan went to the San Gabriel Valley Gun Range for target practice. While on the range, one Mike Soccoman asked Sirhan what he intended to do with the small Iver Johnson .22-cal. pistol. Sirhan said he could use it for hunting, adding: "It could kill a dog." .."

It is insane if Kennedy's bodyguard also carried a 22! If so Kennedy HAD no bodyguard worthy of the name.

31 posted on 02/24/2008 10:21:46 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Rennes Templar
For my part, I'm getting nervous.

First black candidate, first female candidate, neon lighted flaming RINO candidate:
MSM here and overseas reminding us of past assassinations;
it's a really, really, critical election year.

Feeling a bit of a desire to stock up on tinfoil & kevlar.

32 posted on 02/24/2008 10:22:49 PM PST by norton ( There is no longer any choice)
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To: oneolcop

*** It seems strange that an off-duty cop would be carrying a .22. In those days most carried .38’s.***

It is called a “drop gun”. Police shoot a man who happens to be unarmed. Suddenly there is found a cheap .22 in his hand. Police exonerated.


33 posted on 02/24/2008 10:30:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: oneolcop

The officer in question owned both a 38 and a 22. He claimed he had the 38 that night, but proceeded to sell both pistols before they could be examined.

Not saying he did anything wrong, but I’d say he sure exercised poor judgment and odd timing in deciding to get rid of his guns.


34 posted on 02/24/2008 10:36:54 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Rennes Templar

Your bad dude.


35 posted on 02/24/2008 10:43:31 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: tlb

The Huey Long “scenario” comes to mind.


36 posted on 02/24/2008 10:44:54 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I know about "drop guns" (we called them throw-aways) but It would be exceedingly odd for a bodyguard to have both. I'd bet my Sunday lunch that the "off-duty" cop was not an LAPD cop. Like I said, RFK didn't want any LAPD cops near him.
37 posted on 02/24/2008 10:47:48 PM PST by oneolcop (Take off the gloves!)
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To: Rennes Templar
Bump
To read later

This should be an interesting thread

38 posted on 02/24/2008 10:51:31 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Really? It’s nearly 40 years and I don’t hear anyone talk about this. It’s a distant third to JFK and MLK’s.

Not to mention the two Georges' who were the end pieces of the assassination string. George Rockwell and George Wallace. Granted Wallace did survive but his political career did not.

39 posted on 02/24/2008 11:04:52 PM PST by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: ovrtaxt

HA!


40 posted on 02/24/2008 11:09:46 PM PST by Lizavetta
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