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Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age
National Post ^ | 2/25/2008 | Lorne Gunter

Posted on 02/25/2008 7:37:41 AM PST by Uncledave

Lorne Gunter, National Post Published: Monday, February 25, 2008

Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.

The U.S. National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) reported that many American cities and towns suffered record cold temperatures in January and early February. According to the NCDC, the average temperature in January "was -0.3 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average."

China is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in the normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.

There have been so many snow and ice storms in Ontario and Quebec in the past two months that the real estate market has felt the pinch as home buyers have stayed home rather than venturing out looking for new houses.

In just the first two weeks of February, Toronto received 70 cm of snow, smashing the record of 66.6 cm for the entire month set back in the pre-SUV, pre-Kyoto, pre-carbon footprint days of 1950.

And remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Gilles Langis, a senior forecaster with the Canadian Ice Service in Ottawa, says the Arctic winter has been so severe the ice has not only recovered, it is actually 10 to 20 cm thicker in many places than at this time last year.

OK, so one winter does not a climate make. It would be premature to claim an Ice Age is looming just because we have had one of our most brutal winters in decades.

But if environmentalists and environment reporters can run around shrieking about the manmade destruction of the natural order every time a robin shows up on Georgian Bay two weeks early, then it is at least fair game to use this winter's weather stories to wonder whether the alarmist are being a tad premature.

And it's not just anecdotal evidence that is piling up against the climate-change dogma.

According to Robert Toggweiler of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory at Princeton University and Joellen Russell, assistant professor of biogeochemical dynamics at the University of Arizona -- two prominent climate modellers -- the computer models that show polar ice-melt cooling the oceans, stopping the circulation of warm equatorial water to northern latitudes and triggering another Ice Age (a la the movie The Day After Tomorrow) are all wrong.

"We missed what was right in front of our eyes," says Prof. Russell. It's not ice melt but rather wind circulation that drives ocean currents northward from the tropics. Climate models until now have not properly accounted for the wind's effects on ocean circulation, so researchers have compensated by over-emphasizing the role of manmade warming on polar ice melt.

But when Profs. Toggweiler and Russell rejigged their model to include the 40-year cycle of winds away from the equator (then back towards it again), the role of ocean currents bringing warm southern waters to the north was obvious in the current Arctic warming.

Last month, Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, shrugged off manmade climate change as "a drop in the bucket." Showing that solar activity has entered an inactive phase, Prof. Sorokhtin advised people to "stock up on fur coats."

He is not alone. Kenneth Tapping of our own National Research Council, who oversees a giant radio telescope focused on the sun, is convinced we are in for a long period of severely cold weather if sunspot activity does not pick up soon.

The last time the sun was this inactive, Earth suffered the Little Ice Age that lasted about five centuries and ended in 1850. Crops failed through killer frosts and drought. Famine, plague and war were widespread. Harbours froze, so did rivers, and trade ceased.

It's way too early to claim the same is about to happen again, but then it's way too early for the hysteria of the global warmers, too.

lgunter@shaw.ca


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; arcticwarming; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; iceage; littleiceage; polaricemelt; solar; sunspots
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To: Uncledave
Looks like those Russians are going to win that 10,000.00 bet. (That global cooling will soon start due to decreased solar output)

We have had a lot of snow in Washington State. Stevens Pass has recieved almost 500 in so far...Mt Baker set a new world record a few years ago...1,140 in of snow.

21 posted on 02/25/2008 8:11:34 AM PST by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Law is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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To: Uncledave
We’re expecting a low temperature of 7 degrees Thursday night. Brrrrrr!
22 posted on 02/25/2008 8:13:47 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Uncledave

Thanks for the post. My daughter was forced to watch algore’s lovely movie in class last week. The class is actually “Food Science & Technology” but the teacher said she wanted to show the students the future of their food supply. My child is the only freshman, the rest are upper classmen, but she said at the end of the movie they were shellshocked. The teacher asked who didnt agree with the movie - she was the only one. She stood up and said it was a load. LOL She said that was an hour & a half long infomercial for algore’s carbon credits business. The teacher was stunned & asked her if she had been visiting any ‘slanted’ websites. (She does actually read FreeRepublic on occasion at school, which is why she knows bs she she sees it.) Anyway, she has to do a presentation this week & while many chose ‘world hunger’, etc, she is doing hers on a rebuttal to human caused global warming. Others are working in groups of 3 & 4, but she has chosen to go it alone. She is an excellent writer, so I’m hoping she blows them away. I’ll let you know.


23 posted on 02/25/2008 8:23:13 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: Red6

“The planet has a fever! When your baby has a fever, you take it to the doctor. When your planet has a fever, you crash it into the sun. After all, the Sun is not heating the planet up. So crashing the planet into the Sun will cool the planet’s fever!”
Al oGre
ogre “1. an ugly giant or monstrous person that eats people, esp. one in folk tales and children’s stories.
Similar Words Minotaur , bogeyman , monster , beast , giant , ghoul , Cyclops
Definition 2. an especially evil, hideous, or cruel person.”


24 posted on 02/25/2008 8:23:14 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Uncledave
Not like there are natural huge patterns or anything...

this data shows really how unusual our very long lasting warm period is. Lucky us. Luck can't last forever though.

Makes for a strong argument though to try to delay global cooling! LOL

25 posted on 02/25/2008 8:23:54 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: xcamel

Th-that’s what it f-f-f-eels like here! Please, oh please, can we have our global warming back?

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 02/25/2008 8:26:10 AM PST by alwaysconservative (The "Run Hillary Run" bumpersticker: on the back bumper for Dems, on the front for Republicans!)
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bttt


27 posted on 02/25/2008 8:30:58 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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To: texas_mrs

Chris Horner’s “The Dummies Guide to Global Warming” is an excellent resource.


28 posted on 02/25/2008 8:35:54 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks! I will definitely pass that on to her.


29 posted on 02/25/2008 8:42:21 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

If you would, please ping me when you learn how she makes out. You might even consider posting her paper, but that of course, is up to you.


30 posted on 02/25/2008 8:42:30 AM PST by Roccus (Able Danger??? What's an Able Danger????)
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To: Uncledave
And remember the Arctic Sea ice? The ice we were told so hysterically last fall had melted to its "lowest levels on record? Never mind that those records only date back as far as 1972 and that there is anthropological and geological evidence of much greater melts in the past.

The ice is back.

Calling Al Gore, Calling Al Gore...

31 posted on 02/25/2008 8:44:26 AM PST by GOPJ (Do the editors of the L.A. Times realize that illegal immigration is, you know, illegal? Patterico)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
There was a book published several years ago entitled “Chaos: Making a New Science” by James Gleick. It tries to describe chaos theory and its implications in the real world. One of the first items he discusses is weather modeling. What comes out is that very small changes in starting parameters can cause very large results. Global warming simply means there is more energy for Mother Nature to use; it does not mean the temperature will rise equally across the earth. So, that “damned global warming” could very easily be causing the unusual snow patterns.

Now, with that said, history has shown that global temps go up and global temps go down. The cycle started long before man’s influence and will continue long after. Looking outside at my ice covered driveway, I’m hoping for a little of that global warming soon!

32 posted on 02/25/2008 8:46:42 AM PST by colinhester
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To: MrB
Let me guess - the way to avoid an ice age is to reduce our lifestyle and punish capitalism and implement global socialism...

Great comment - You understand the liberal mind -- or more precisely, the liberal mindlessness...

33 posted on 02/25/2008 8:47:55 AM PST by GOPJ (Do the editors of the L.A. Times realize that illegal immigration is, you know, illegal? Patterico)
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To: GOPJ

More precisely, the liberal agenda of global socialism with them in charge of who gets what,

and that ALL of the crap that they promote (global warming, poverty initiatives, universal health care, feminism, multiculturalism) is simply a means to an end.


34 posted on 02/25/2008 8:49:50 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Have you not bought your “global warming” books, videos, paid for some conference, attended some class at a college, paid a lecturer, and bought some carbon offsets yet?

Hey, if you start your kids young, with about 6 or so, maybe you can beat this into their head to where they won’t question it. We call that a good education in this country!


35 posted on 02/25/2008 8:54:49 AM PST by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Roccus; Interesting Times; Uncledave

Roccus, sure, I will let you all know how she does. Prior to the presentation assignment, I was so enraged about the showing of that drivel movie as fact that I was planning to write a letter to the school. Now I’m considering still doing so, but suggesting they must show a rebuttal or opposing view. What do you all suggest? Or should I just let my daughter do the talking? So many parents just don’t have a clue, I feel someone needs to speak out about it.


36 posted on 02/25/2008 8:54:57 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Yup, heard the same argument from a couple of AlGore acolytes at work.

Weather is hot = GW. Weather is cold = GW.

Just a few minutes ago, in fact, one of the girls in the breakroom attributed the 60 degree temp today (about 10 higher than normal, fyi) to global warming.

I didn't ask her if the highs in the 30s this weekend (about 20 degrees colder than usual) were also due to GW. I probably already know the answer.

Speaking for myself, I like the warmer temps over the past few years. My heating bill for the past 2 winters has been 2/3 of what it was previously. And, that's with the hikes in Natural Gas prices.

37 posted on 02/25/2008 8:57:00 AM PST by wbill
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To: RetiredArmy
I hate Heidi whatsherface on the Weather Channel. So much so that I've stopped watching it.

Too bad, I like Jim Cantore. He strikes me as a guy who generally knows what he's talking about, but is being forced to parrot the party line.

38 posted on 02/25/2008 8:59:13 AM PST by wbill
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To: Rick.Donaldson
Ack, you can’t win, they keep changing the story.

Although we have no hope of changing the minds of the true Gorons, we can still sway ordinary folks who have bought into this nonsense. Just keep pointing out their folly and how the facts don't add up to Algore's lies (and then point and laugh as necessary)..........

39 posted on 02/25/2008 8:59:23 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: tom paine 2; All

But there are mini ice ages, they seem to accur during Solar Min. times [times when there are little to no solar storms] and we are entering this period of time for the next 11 years.

They used to grow grapes in England before there was a mini ice age, and ever since the temps were never that way again.


40 posted on 02/25/2008 9:01:15 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth Rebel by choice, MARINE by act of GOD!)
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