Posted on 03/01/2008 7:44:56 PM PST by dba.adabas
During a televised debate between Democrat party nominee frontrunners, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were asked if there were any votes that they would like to take back. Here was Obama's choice...
"When I first arrived in the Senate that first year, we had a situation surrounding Terri Schiavo," Obama said. "And I remember how we adjourned with a unanimous agreement that eventually allowed Congress to interject itself into that decision-making process of the families. It wasn't something I was comfortable with, but it was not something that I stood on the floor and stopped," he said.
"And I think that was a mistake, and I think the American people understood that that was a mistake. And as a constitutional law professor, I knew better," Obama continued.
Mr. Obama has consistently criticized President Bush over his failed policies in Iraq and the the wrong decision to invade Iraq has cost thousands of American lives. Simply put, he believed it to be the wrong thing to do.
...random thought...
Dear Senator Obama, you have said that you would like to take your vote back regarding Terry Schiavo. Are you saying it was the wrong thing to do? And if so, do you mean it or are you prepping for the general election, knowing you may need Florida to win the Presidency?
Your actions regarding Terry Schiavo directly led to her death, more than likely premature and definitely in disagreement with her family. You admit it was a mistake.
President Bush's actions concerning the war in Iraq may have resulted in the death of hundreds of American service men and women, however, as you Democrats are apt to spin things...the fact of the matter is that American lives fought and died for the freedoms of millions of Americans.
Many of them, if not all, would more than likely disagree with your premise that the Iraq war and the war on terrorism is a mistake. In other words, they fought and died to save many, including you.
Whereas your vote killed one....
“When in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands whivh have connected them with one another....they should declare the causes which impel them to Separation.”
“We hold these Truths to be self-evident,
that all Men are endowed by their Creator with
certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness-
That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men....”
The United States Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776
The founders of the US, on the purpose of the new govt.
When the US Constitution was ratified in 1787, it included the Bill of Rights, which declared some specific restrictions on the federal government.
“No person shall...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...”
The Fifth Amenment’s Due Process REQUIREMENT of the US Constitution.
Under the Fourteenth Amendment, the Due Process clause was incorporated, making the Due Process clause binding on state governments as well as the federal govt.
The Equal Protection clause was added to ensure its uniform application to all persons, commonly understood throughout history and, until 1973, as human beings.
“...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Terri Schiavo was “deprived of life” under a Florida court order.
She was denied equal protection of the law.
The state has no constitutional or moral authority to order innocent people to death.
The federal government has a constitutional duty to defend innocent human life.
Anyone who tells you the state has the right to kill innocent human beings under its state rights umbrella is a liar.
What is it with idiots claiming Obama is Muslim?
I don't know Obama's voting record on this, but he seems to be saying that he supported the Congressional investigation into Schiavo's treatment by the courts in Florida. Now he regrets that.
Which side are you on?
Muslims have no respect for human life, and neither does Obama.
Why does constitutional "expert" Obama always seem to be pushing double standards with respect to the Constitution?
For example, concerning the Terri Schiavo case, other than 9th A. rights that were possibly overlooked in Terri's case, the USSC was arguably right in deciding that Terri's case was a state power issue. So Obama's remark about Schiavo indeed had some constitutional basis where the division of federal and state powers is concerned.
However...
Given that the federal Constitution says nothing about abortion, abortion has state power aspects to it like Terri's case did.
The question is, why is Obama respecting state powers by regretting his vote for Terri on one hand, while disrespecting state powers by promising to exercise non-existent federal government powers by signing the Freedom of Choice Act on the other hand?
“The first thing I’d do as president,” he told a cheering audience, “is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first thing that I’d do.” --Barack Obama, OP for this threadConstitution "expert" Obama's formula for interpreting the Constitution is ultimately that the Constitution means whatever Obama says that it means.
excellent posts
I think you meant ‘a small number of Muslims lack respect for human life’. To claim all Muslims feel the same way is as silly as claiming all Christians think the same way about, say, abortion or capital punishment.
The fundies tried their little Schiavo coup-d’etat and the courts slapped their wrists, quite correctly.
How can you fix the family anti-male courts ?
Since the majority of poor=low income fathers (mostly minorities) are being destroyed by child support.
How would you (Mr. Obama) addressed this ?
Not a random thought at all.
He’s opposed to the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (which even Hillary voed for), he’s opposed to banning or even restricting partial-birth abortion. His comments on Terri Schiavo are consistent with his blatant disregard for the lives of others. Perhaps that also expalins his frinedship with William Ayers, the bomb-maker from teh Weather Underground.
Sen. Barack Obama said he would like to take back his vote authorizing Congress to intervene to save the life of the brain-injured Florida woman Terri Schiavo.
And I think I should have stayed in the Senate and fought more for making sure [that Schiavo's parents were not allowed to pursue arguments in federal court]," LifeSite quoted Obama saying in the previous debate.
The American people have been duped, (or at least mislead by superficial media coverage) into thinking this was a "right to die" case, when it was really a custodial rights case between parents and a no-account former husband.
This says a LOT about Obama. "As a constitutional lawyer I should have known better."
Yeah right. As a politician wanting to ignore the true legal issues, you've changed your mind to match public opinion.
What Me Worry?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)
Several times a year someone is in the news because they were in a coma, brain dead, like Terry Schiavo, and they woke up.
Do you have any links to articles about people in a vegetative state who recovered?
Osama Obama shows his inexperience dealing with anything remotely like the Constitution.
LOL!
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