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No US consideration of Serbian sacrifice
New Europe ^ | March 10, 2008 | Wes Johnson

Posted on 03/14/2008 4:48:04 PM PDT by Bokababe

Today there seems to be little if any national memory of history to influence the foreign policy of the American super-power – merely what appears to be the most expedient at the moment, whether it conforms to international law and a United Nations organization established to act as a moderating force among nations, or not.

How else to view Washington’s latest project to foist a second Albanian state on the international community: Kosovo, which has been torn out of Serbian territory rich in historic meaning and tradition to a Slav Orthodox Christian people who consider it to be the very heart of their ancient patrimony?

Consider for a moment this small nation, that in World War I, was attacked by Austria, Germany, and then Bulgaria, that fought with the Allies against the Central Powers bravely and brilliantly against overwhelming odds; that at the end of that conflict had lost 1,264,000 people out of a population of 4,529,000 – a quarter of its total.

Then, again in World War II, the Serbians stood with the Allies and formed the backbone of Tito’s Partisan guerrillas. Dozens of German, Italian and Bulgarian divisions were tied down fighting Tito’s forces throughout the war. Including genocide against the Serbians in Bosnia by the Croat Ustashe – and similar depredations by the Albanians in Kosovo who had been formed into a SS unit by the Germans – Yugoslavia lost 1,700,000 people.

During that conflict, Mihailovich and Tito both had collaborated with the British Special Operations Executive and the American Office of Strategic Services. Additionally, 512 downed Americans and 84 British and Canadian airmen were sheltered and rescued mainly by Serbian villagers at the grave risk of their own lives.

After Tito broke with Stalin in 1948, Yugoslavia remained Communist; but it insisted on its independence along its road of post-war reconstruction toward achieving socialism. At various times it accepted material support, including even some military assistance, along with financial aid through international loans from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. It was one of the first charter members of the United Nations.

The US had even tolerated Yugoslavia’s leading role in the Non-Aligned Movement knowing that, if it had to, Belgrade would fight the Soviet Union and its satellites.

In NATO circles, a commonly-accepted scenario for the start of World War III had the Soviet Union attempting to overthrow Tito. Much of the Yugoslav National Army’s own planning revolved around that threat possibility. Even as late as 1980, when Tito died, some thought that Moscow might attempt to force the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia into conformity with the Bloc.

It’s true that at the end of World War II Tito suppressed remnants of fascist Albanian groups in Kosovo in months of fighting. He subsequently built up a loyal Albanian Communist party structure that had considerable leeway – rewarding it with provincial autonomy.

In 1974, Kosovo’s autonomy was widened even more by the SFRY’s new constitution – and Albanian leaders began the long process of discriminating openly against its Serb population. Many Serbs moved out as more and more Albanians moved in. By 1981, a year after Tito’s death, students began to protest against conditions at their university and the lack of job opportunity.

When Milosevic attempted to re-integrate Kosovo into Serbia in the late 1980s, the province was financially bankrupt. Its Albanian leadership disadvantaged the Serbs while failing its own people. Oppositionists led by Ibrahim Rugova declared themselves to be a “Republic” of virtual “independence.”

No Americans had even heard of Kosovo except for Senator Robert Dole and a few congressmen who began to rant against Milosevic; fueled, some say, by Albanian “contributions” to their US political campaigns.

Kosovar separatism was indeed repressed!!!

By 1997, armed Albanians were conducting pinprick attacks against Serb police and militia outposts. A year later, the Kosovo Liberation Army was in open revolt and had seized control of almost half of the province. Milosevic, in turn, fended off western criticism and began to roll up the KLA. NATO, ordered by US President Clinton and UK Prime Minister Blair, in effect intervened on behalf of the KLA; and, in a devastating bombing campaign, forced Milosevic to pull his Yugoslav forces out of the province.

What has followed has been years of NATO-UN Mission in Kosovo bureaucratically- administered failure – during which hundreds of Serbs were murdered and some 200,000 left the province for good. For this, and the threat to take up arms again, the Albanians have been rewarded with independence. The UN, the EU, and NATO have been intimidated by the threat of renewed conflict.

So what kind of state might we expect from a poverty-stricken entity known to be a center of narcotics trafficking?

Popular ex-Prime Minister Ramush Haradinaj is now on trial at The Hague for war crimes committed during the 1998-99 conflict.

The present Prime Minister, Hisham Thaci (a favorite of ex- US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright) has been accused of having ordered the murder of several KLA rivals during that same conflict. He now presides over a country with a 50 percent unemployment rate and rampant corruption.

The US, opportunistically, has called for a donor’s conference to help fund the country’s near empty budget and is turning “supervision” of Kosovo over to the EU It has need for its troops elsewhere.

Many say that an independent Kosovo will set an unfortunate precedent and feed separatist movements around the globe.

The Bosnian Serbs are already saying that they should be permitted to join Serbia. Armenians also point to Kosovo and claim that their ethnically Armenian enclave in Azerbaijan – Nagorno-Karabakh - should be given international recognition. Even Russia, which must feel that Washington has tossed a delayed action cluster bomb into its backyard, might be tempted to support the breakaway tendencies of ethnic-Russians in Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia, a NATO aspirant and the transit site of a strategic petroleum pipeline out of the Caspian Basin.

However, the fact that Russia recently fought a barely-resolved war to keep Chechnya may stay its hand.

Moscow has not been reluctant to back Serbia on Kosovo and says it will deny it UN membership. Russia also reminded us that it is back in the Balkans by recently signing agreements for Gazprom to purchase Serbia’s NIS Petroleum and Srbijagas natural gas monopolies and to bring its South Stream natural gas pipeline through that country en route to Western Europe. Senior US officials continue to criticize Gazprom’s rapid expansion and have made it clear they consider South Stream to be an unwelcome competitor to the EU’s planned Nabucco pipeline.

Future historians may very well conclude that an important ingredient to the many “Wars of Yugoslavian Succession” was for control of energy avenues from the Caspian out to the west.

The many sacrifices made by Serbians on the battlefields of the past have been forgotten.

Wes Johnson is the author of Balkan Inferno: Betrayal, War, and Intervention 1990-2005.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: albania; appeasement; balkans; dhimmitude; illegalimmigrants; islamofascists; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; serbia; wrongside
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1 posted on 03/14/2008 4:48:06 PM PDT by Bokababe
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

2 posted on 03/14/2008 4:49:36 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: All

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3 posted on 03/14/2008 4:59:46 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Bokababe

Sadly, the USA has demonstrated that it is now an enemy of the Serbs and a friend, quizzically, to the Al Qaeda loving Albanian muslims who are working hard to create an Albanian empire in the Balkans.


4 posted on 03/14/2008 5:02:21 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: Bokababe

Carter blundered badly in Iran.

Clinton blundered badly in Kosovo.

The Russians are actually on the right side for once.


5 posted on 03/14/2008 5:11:03 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Clinton blundered badly in Kosovo.

Bush blundered badly following Clinton.

6 posted on 03/14/2008 5:36:40 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: Bokababe

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7 posted on 03/14/2008 8:17:58 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Bokababe
Then, again in World War II, the Serbians stood with the Allies and formed the backbone of Tito’s Partisan guerrillas. Dozens of German, Italian and Bulgarian divisions were tied down fighting Tito’s forces throughout the war. Including genocide against the Serbians in Bosnia by the Croat Ustashe – and similar depredations by the Albanians in Kosovo who had been formed into a SS unit by the Germans – Yugoslavia lost 1,700,000 people.

Actually the real death toll was 1.014 million...the communists inflated the death toll in order to get more reparations from the Germans.

As for the Serbs during WW2, more fought on the side of the Axis until roughly late 1943 when Serbs began to desert the Royalist Chetniks and join Tito's Communist Partisans.

8 posted on 03/14/2008 9:35:19 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
Darn, hit the wrong button and it was sent. My reply was this:

Actually the real death toll was 1.014 million...the communists inflated the death toll in order to get more reparations from the Germans. As for the Serbs during WW2, more fought on the side of the Axis until roughly late 1943 when Serbs began to desert the Royalist Chetniks and join Tito's Communist Partisans.

9 posted on 03/14/2008 9:36:12 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: PeterFinn

The Albanians have no love for al-Qaida.


10 posted on 03/14/2008 9:36:48 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
"As for the Serbs during WW2, more fought on the side of the Axis until roughly late 1943 when Serbs began to desert the Royalist Chetniks and join Tito's Communist Partisans.

Peddle your revisionist history somewhere else, Dio. That's complete crap and you know it.

11 posted on 03/14/2008 11:44:58 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Once again I present my challenge to anyone here (or elsewhere) to debate the matter. So far, every Serb on FR has chickened out.


12 posted on 03/15/2008 2:51:57 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
"The Albanians have no love for al-Qaida."

Yes, neither did the "poor Bosnian Muslims" -- they were all supposedly"peace-loving secular Muslims" -- or so the combined PR lies went. Then several of the 9/11 hijackers came out of Bosnia, then new suicide bombers out of Bosnia. Today, terrorism experts are pretty well agreed that Bosnia is a hub of al Qaeda actitivity.

After four of the Fort Dix Six were identified as Kosovo and Macedonian Albanian Muslims, you've got a pretty hard sell on the idea that "there are no Albanian al Qaeda".

13 posted on 03/15/2008 10:52:36 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diocletian
"Once again I present my challenge to anyone here (or elsewhere) to debate the matter. So far, every Serb on FR has chickened out."

Not "chickened out", just bored with rehashing your nonsense Tudjman historical revisionism over and over. Can't hide the fact that the Croat Ustase were alled with Nazi Germany, so you want to drag the Serbs into the toilet with you.

Tudjman's quote about Jews was really priceless as an example of what nonsense this Croat revisionism is: "The Jews provoke envy and hatred but actually they are 'the unhappiest nation in the world', always victims of 'their own and others' ambitions', and whoever tries to show that they are themselves their own source of tragedy is ranked among the anti-Semites and the object of hatred by the Jews".

What utter garbage!

14 posted on 03/15/2008 11:06:55 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Not "chickened out", just bored with rehashing your nonsense Tudjman historical revisionism over and over.

Sorry, but I don't use Tudjman as a source on this matter. My sources are Chetnik, Italian, and German primary sources.

Again, I challenge anyone on FR to debate this matter.

15 posted on 03/15/2008 11:22:35 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Bokababe
You're moving the goalposts. Nowhere did I mention Bosnian Muslims...I'm just stating the fact that the Albanians have no interest in Jihad as exemplified by the fact that the KLA didn't allow the Mujahideen into their ranks, and kicked out quite a bit from Kosovo. Read Mujahideen Aukai Collins' memoirs on the matter.

The Kosovo Albanians reject Wahhabism (but take Saudi money anyway), Bosnia is a different story.

16 posted on 03/15/2008 11:27:12 AM PDT by Diocletian
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Absolutely, Bokababe. Right out of the “Croatian/Communist handbook”.

There is no “debate” with a “true believer”.

A few tidbits of info are worthy here:

Mihailovich’s chetnik stronghold was predominatly in Serbia proper during WWII, and also in parts of Bosnia and in parts of the Krajina area in Croatia (where there was a majority Serb population), and in areas of Montenegro. Tito had very little strength in Serbia proper. His areas of support lay in Croatia, Montenegro, and Bosnia.

In late 1943, the Allies, for all practical purposes, abandoned General Mihailovich and his chetniks, at the behest of Winston Churchill, his treacherous commie advisors in Cairo, and his pro-Tito friends at home. Mihailovich and his Chetniks were left to the wolves, simultaneously at the mercy of the Nazi occupiers and Tito’s Partisans, who, depending on how you look at things, were every bit as destructive or more so, than the Germans were in Yugoslavia.

Due to the horrific Ustasha (read: Croatian and Bosnian Moslem Nazi quislings) massacres against the Serbian population in the Independent State of Croatia (which at that time included Bosnia-Hercegovina), many Serbs fled from the massacres by joining Tito’s Partisans who happened to be prevalent in specific areas of Croatia.

As for “more Serbs fought on the side of the Axis until roughly late 1943”, that’s a line that would make even Adolf Hitler laugh. He knew exactly whose side the Serbs were on, just as he knew exactly whose side the Croatians, the Bosnian Moslems and Albanians were on. If this had indeed been true, the Nazis would not have instituted their terrible 100 for 1 reprisal policy against the Serbs on September 13, 1941 which they implimented and executed with devastating consequences for the Serbian civilian population. That’s 100 dead Serbs for every 1 dead German.

Hitler also knew what Tito was all about. He let it be known that he always considered Mihailovich and his Chetniks the bigger, more real, threat in Yugoslavia.

What often confuses the issue is that some Serbs were “Partisans” and some were “Chetniks”. Those who were chetniks (often referred to as “nationalists”) would not only pay the price from the Nazis, they would pay the price from the Yugoslav Partisans (communists) as well, both during and after the war.

German archives and German commander testimonies would best address the “Serbs fighting on the side of the Axis” nonsense.

Now, Croatians fighting on the side of the Axis, that’s a whole ‘nother story.


17 posted on 03/15/2008 11:27:59 AM PDT by Ravnagora
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Hi Ravnagora:

The Chetniks stopped fighting the Germans by the end of 1941. Most Chetniks never once fought either the Italians or Germans, particularly those in Dalmatia, Lika, Central and Western Bosnia. And I'm not even touching upon the legal Chetniks outside of the Ravnagora movement who collaborated with the Germans from day one.

Nor am I even touching the topic of Ljotic's units, who by the way, were tied to Djujic's Chetniks of Dalmatia, Lika, and Western Bosnia since Djujic was a member of Ljotic's Zbor party.

18 posted on 03/15/2008 11:32:10 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Ravnagora
Hitler also knew what Tito was all about. He let it be known that he always considered Mihailovich and his Chetniks the bigger, more real, threat in Yugoslavia.

That's funny, considering the fact that the Chetniks began collaboration with the Germans in 1941 in Eastern Bosnia under Major Dangic's forces. LMAO.

19 posted on 03/15/2008 11:33:30 AM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Ravnagora
Dio will try and occupy you all day with this nonsense, just to give himself a chance to spew -- a total waste of time, IMHO. Especially given that all anyone really needs to know to settle it, is:

1. Harry Truman gave Mihailovic the highest award possible for a foreign national, the Legion of Merit -- " General Mihailovich and his forces, although lacking adequate supplies, and fighting under extreme hardships, contributed materially to the Allied cause, and were instrumental in obtaining a final Allied victory

2. The communists, and Nazi supporters (including the Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Albanians) have been trying to smear him ever since -- with no luck.

20 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:54 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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