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Winter-Soldier Again: But maybe this time, the press will be less credulous
National Review Online ^ | March 31, 2008 | Mackubin Thomas Owens

Posted on 03/31/2008 7:34:46 AM PDT by Interesting Times

An organization calling itself Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) convened a conference in Silver Spring, Maryland, entitled Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan — Eyewitness Accounts of the Occupations, this month. Modeling itself on the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation (WSI), which provided the text for John Kerry’s infamous testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee later that year, the event claimed to “feature testimony from U.S. veterans who served in [the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan], giving an accurate account of what is really happening day in and day out, on the ground.” But in the immortal words of Yogi Berra, it was like déjà vu all over again.

Then . . .
Those who suffered through my many National Review Online and National Review pieces on John Kerry and alleged atrocities in Vietnam during the election year of 2004 — a series that began, by the way, in January, long before anyone had ever heard of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth — will recall that the 1971 Winter Soldier Investigation (WSI) was organized by “the usual suspects” among antiwar celebrities, e.g. Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, and Kennedy-assassination conspiracy theorist Mark Lane. During the course of the proceedings, individuals purporting to be Vietnam veterans recounted horrible stories of atrocities: using prisoners for target practice, throwing them out of helicopters, cutting off the ears of dead Viet Cong soldiers, burning villages, and gang-raping women as a matter of course.

My assessment of the WSI and Kerry’s use of it to advance his political career was, shall we say, negative. Based on my own research and that of others, I concluded that at least some of the WSI witnesses were imposters, and that many of those who were not imposters nonetheless recounted stories that they were in no position to observe. On the very useful Winter Soldier internet site, Scott Swett, co-author (with Tim Ziegler) of To Set the Record Straight: How Swift Boat Veterans, POWs, and the New Media Defeated John Kerry, offers additional evidence to discredit the 1971 WSI. He provides access to the U.S. Army’s Criminal Investigative Division’s (CID) investigations of the allegations made by WSI witnesses, which if true, would have qualified as crimes. CID opened criminal investigations into the claims of 43 WSI witnesses, which were eventually resolved as follows: “25 WSI participants refused to cooperate, 13 provided information but failed to support the allegations, and five could not be located. No criminal charges were filed as a result of any of the investigations.”

As I pointed out in several of my NRO pieces, the experience of the Naval Investigate Service (NIS, now Naval Criminal Investigative Service, NCIS) examining the claims made by Marines at the Detroit event was identical. When NIS attempted to interview the witnesses, most refused to cooperate, even after assurances that they would not be questioned about atrocities they may have committed personally. Those that did cooperate never provided details of actual crimes to investigators. The NIS also discovered that some of the most grisly testimony was given by fake witnesses who had appropriated the names of real Vietnam veterans.

. . . And Now
Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan (WSI II) repeats the pattern of the 1971 WSI:

o vague charges, lacking specific details and the supporting evidence that real investigations require to ascertain the truth;

o mischaracterizing as atrocities or war crimes events occuring during the conduct of combat operations that, while disturbing or tragic, are still legal and moral, e.g. the events in Hadithah two years ago — the fact is that not every bad thing that happens in war is an atrocity;

o descriptions of events that, if they did in fact occur, should have been reported up the chain of command, but were not; and

o “witnesses” of questionable veracity.
The big difference between then and now is that in 1971, far too few members of the press or the public were predisposed to question the claims of the WSI witnesses. My Lai had recently burst upon the American public, contributing to the belief that atrocities were widespread in Vietnam. The WSI and Kerry’s testimony seemed to merely confirm what a cynical press and a war-weary public had been primed to believe.

By the time the truth became known — that while atrocities took place in Vietnam, as in all wars, they were far from widespread — the perception that they were ubiquitous was firmly established in popular culture. While the record is now being corrected, it is analogous to the situation in which a sensational, scurrilous charge appears as front-page news, while the retraction is later buried deep in the newspaper.

While many in the press are still predisposed to believe the worst about the American solider, claims of “supporting the troops” notwithstanding, today’s GI in Iraq and Afghanistan can rely on those who suffered through the post-Vietnam War era — assisted by the internet and the blogosphere — to give them the benefit of the doubt, and to hold accountable those who make outrageous claims about their conduct. This is the biggest difference between now and 1971. For instance, the blog site Obiter Dictum put together a useful “Reporters’ Guide” for WSI II that reveals some interesting facts about IVAW. For example, in spite of the organizations name, a large percentage of its members have not in fact deployed to either Iraq or Afghanistan. The resource draws attention to the questionable veracity of some IVAW members — the infamous Jesse MacBeth and IVAW co-founder Jimmy Massy to name only a couple.

Jonn Lilyea, a blogger who attended the festivities (and provides a useful summary of the proceedings here) demonstrates that as in 1971, many of the “witnesses” during the WSI II event were REMFs who recounted stories often based on rumor, but not on first-hand observation. As the late Harry Summer once remarked, the more grisly the atrocity story, the further removed from the battlefield the storyteller most likely was.

Let us stipulate that war sucks, but context matters, and those who cover it have to know what questions to ask when confronted by sensational claims. The press failed to do precisely this in the wake of Vietnam. Will it be better this time around? I don’t know, but at least some members of the press seem to attempt fairness.

For instance, in late February, I was contacted by a reporter from the Syracuse Post-Standard who wanted to interview me about the upcoming WSI II. I tried to impress upon him the importance of taking the sort of statements he was likely to hear at WSI II with a substantial grain of salt. It was important, I stressed, for reporters covering this story to “dig deep,” asking for details and ensuring that those making the claims were credible.

I told him that the Vietnam generation of journalists who bought the WSI political theater hook, line, and sinker, had merely enabled the dissemination of political propaganda and were complicit in defaming a generation of decent men, most of whom did their duty in Vietnam with honor and restraint. I told him how Jug Burkett had done what journalists should have been doing — asking for documentation and insisting on details — when he unmasked numerous phony Vietnam “veterans,” as recounted in Stolen Valor. I told him that if reporters were truly interested in the truth, they should do what Burkett did: get the name and service number of every one who testified during the WSI II, use the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to gain access to their real records, and then check to see if that individual was in a position to have committed or witnessed atrocities.

I haven’t seen much in the way of mainstream reporting on the WSI II event, so I can’t yet tell if today’s reporters are less credulous than their Vietnam-era predecessors. I can only hope they are.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ivaw; vvaw; wintersoldier
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To: Interesting Times

I sure hope the MSM does a better job of “vetting” these phonies this time around!


21 posted on 03/31/2008 11:33:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. This is an excellent article. It does seem that the WSII propaganda is getting less media coverage than they expected.


22 posted on 03/31/2008 11:37:35 AM PDT by zot
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I wonder how many of these “Winter Soldier” scumbags will be exposed as frauds. I’d guess 100% would be pretty close.


23 posted on 03/31/2008 11:44:25 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Travis McGee
I sure hope the MSM does a better job of “vetting” these phonies this time around!

Little chance of that - too much like real work.

The best case would be for the old media to simply cover the IVAW's theatrics in a perfunctory way and then move on to something else. In April 1971, the "Big Three" networks ran fawning coverage of the VVAW's lies and exaggerations during an entire week of Washington protests, with John Kerry's Kennedy-aping Senate appearance as Exhibit A. There's no way they could peddle the same crap to the public today without taking a huge credibility hit.

24 posted on 03/31/2008 11:45:41 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: ozzymandus
I wonder how many of these “Winter Soldier” scumbags will be exposed as frauds. I’d guess 100% would be pretty close.

Depends on what you mean by "frauds." Most of those who spoke at the event were undoubtedly in the military, in one capacity or another. Some of the unpleasant events they recounted may well have happened more or less as described. The real question is whether any of the radical activists (and let's not kid ourselves; that's what they are) who claim to have witnessed or participated in war crimes are willing to back up their claims with evidence and sworn testimony, so that they can be properly investigated. So far, the overwhelming evidence is: no, they aren't.

25 posted on 03/31/2008 11:51:59 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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I haven’t seen any mention of the WSI on the news - maybe today’s journalists really are checking?
Time will tell. I still expect to see them use terms like “It was reported that ...” to cover their butts.


26 posted on 03/31/2008 1:44:57 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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