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Sadr threatens new uprising; Iraqi and US forces press attack
The Long War Journal ^ | 4/20/2008 | Bill Roggio

Posted on 04/21/2008 7:18:26 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush

Muqtada al Sadr. Click to view.

The battle between the Mahdi Army and Iraqi and US forces intensified over the weekend. As the Iraqi Army took control of a Mahdi Army stronghold in Basrah, Muqtada al Sadr, the leader of the Mahdi Army, threatened to end the self-imposed cease-fire. Iraqi security forces have also stepped up efforts against the Mahdi Army in the center-south region of Iraq, and captured more than 40 of the Iranian-backed Special Groups, a Mahdi Army splinter group.

Sadr threatened to end the cease-fire after Iraqi troops took over the Mahdi Army-dominated neighborhood of Hayaniyah in Basrah and ejected the Sadrist political party from government-owned offices in the city. He openly said he was prepared to revolt against the government.

"Do you want a third uprising?” Sadr said, referring to the two Mahdi Army uprisings in Baghdad, Najaf, and the South in April and August 2006. "So I direct my last warning and speech to the Iraqi government to refrain and to take the path of peace and abandon violence against its people. If the government does not refrain and leash the militias that have penetrated it, we will announce an open war until liberation."

The Iraqi government brushed off Sadr's comments and continued to maintain that the Mahdi Army must disarm while saying the Mahdi Army and the Sadrist movement was not a target. "The state can not withstand the existence of two armies," government spokesman Ali al Dabbagh said. Dabbagh also noted the government is not negotiating with the Sadrist movement. “We don’t have direct negotiations or contacts with the Sadr’s movement because we have nothing to negotiate with them but also we don’t have problems with the political factions,” he said.

The US military and government responded forcefully to Sadr's threat to end the ceasefire. "If Sadr and Jaish al-Mahdi (Mahdi Army) become very aggressive, we've got enough combat power to take the fight to the enemy," Major General Rick Lynch, the commander of US forces in Karbala, Najaf, Babil, Wasit, and southern Baghdad provinces told the US media.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza, who is currently visiting Iraq, taunted Sadr by implying he was hiding in Iran while ordering his fighters to oppose their government. "I know he's sitting in Iran," Rice said. "I guess its all-out war for anybody but him. I guess that's the message; his followers can go to their deaths and he's in Iran."

The cease-fire is all but over

The Mahdi Army cease-fire is all but dead, as the Mahdi Army has openly resisted the Iraqi government's attempts to assert control in Sadrist strongholds in Baghdad, Basrah, and the South. Sadr admitted his political movement issued orders to attack both US and Iraqi troops and has called for Iraqi soldiers and police to desert their units.

Sadr's forces have continued to attack Iraqi government forces despite a cease-fire. An incident on April 19 south of Nasariyah backfired on the Mahdi Army as 40 fighters were captured, including two leaders, after attempting to ambush Iraqi forces in Suq Ash Shuyukh. The Iraqi security forces responded by sending a joint force of soldiers, police, and special police to battle the Mahdi Army force.

The Mahdi Army forces "retreated to building that contained the local Sadr Trend office" after "facing a combination of armored vehicles and suppressive fire," Multinational Forces Iraq reported in a press release. Iraqi forces cleared the building and discovered a large weapons cache that included "explosively formed penetrators, Katyusha rockets, rocket propelled grenade launchers and a large quantity of additional weapons and ammunition." Iran has supplied explosively formed penetrators to the Mahdi Army and the Special Groups.

A local police chief said 39 Mahdi Army fighters were captured, while 22 people, including two policemen, were killed, while another 19 police were wounded during the fighting. Multinational Forces Iraq said 40 "criminals" were captured and 12 Iraqi soldiers were wounded.

US and Iraqi troops have been active in Baghdad and Sadr City as well. US soldiers killed 22 "criminals" and captured six during a series of engagements in Baghdad over the last 24 hours. On April 19, aerial weapons teams killed seven Mahdi Army fighters in Sadr City as they transported weapons and attacked US and Iraqi forces.

US troops killed 20 Mahdi Army fighters today during a series of engagements in the Adhamiyah, East Rashid, and Kadamiyah districts in Baghdad. Coalition special forces captured a "suspected Iranian-trained Special Groups commander" and three lieutenants and killed three others during a targeted raid in Kadamiyah. US soldiers killed 12 Mahdi Army fighters as they planted roadside bombs and attacked US forces in Adhamiyah and East Rashid. Another five Mahdi fighters were killed and two wounded by air weapons teams late in the afternoon on Sunday.

In Basrah, Iraqi troops conducted a cordon-and-search operation in the Al Kaziza region north of the city. Iraqi troops " captured a number of wanted men" and seized heavy and medium weapons during the operation.

In Karbala, Iraqi troops also found a weapons factory with a large weapons cache containing "80 IEDs, 130 detonation devices and 60 kg of TNT." Karbala police also captured an eight-man cell, including the cell leader. Police "confiscated their documents that include names of politicians and religious clergies' representatives in Karbala, aiming at eliminating and assassinating them."

Background on the fighting between the Mahdi Army and the Iraqi government

Mahdi Army forces rose up after the Iraqi government started the assault on Basrah on March 25 to clear the city of the Mahdi Army and other Iranian-backed Shia militias. Sadr called for his forces to leave the streets on March 30 just as Iraqi Army and police reinforcements began to arrive in Basrah. Sadr later admitted he ordered his followers within the Army and police to abandon their posts and join the fighting against the government.

US and Iraqi forces killed 173 Mahdi Army fighters in Baghdad alone during the six days of fighting from March 25-30. The fighting has not abated in Sadr City and other Mahdi Army-dominated neighborhoods in northern and eastern Baghdad.

Sadr and his political movement have become increasingly isolated since the fighting began in Basrah, Baghdad, and the South. The Iraqi government, with the support of the political parties, said the Sadrist political movement would not be able to participate in upcoming provincial elections if it failed to disband the Mahdi Army. On April 13, the cabinet approved legislation that prevents political parties with militias from contesting provincial elections this year. The bill will now be sent to parliament for approval. Grand Ayatollah Ali al Sistani, the top Shiite cleric in Iraq, said the Mahdi Army was not above the law and should be disarmed.


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To: Tennessean4Bush

I’d like to see a SF put a bullet right between those scummy, rotten teeth of his.


21 posted on 04/21/2008 8:22:50 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (feh)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
There is either law and order or chaos.

Those are your choices, Mookie. If you choose chaos, you and those around you suffer, and there will be law and order by force.

Choose wisely.

22 posted on 04/21/2008 8:22:54 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
Mook, Mook, Mookie, goo’bye
Mook, mook, Mookieie, don't cry
The chopper that come to takes
you out, no words can tell how glad it makes me
Burn burn , Mookie, and then
look for your virgins in ‘ell
Watch for that sniper, He'll never fail
If you don't get a bullet then maybe a drone
Tut, tut, Mookie, don't cry
Mook, Mook, Mookie, goo’bye!
23 posted on 04/21/2008 8:25:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

.........Viper

..

24 posted on 04/21/2008 8:45:01 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: reagan_fanatic
I’d like to see a SF put a bullet right between those scummy, rotten teeth of his.

Only thing better would be having an Iraqi grunt do the job.

25 posted on 04/21/2008 8:48:03 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red6

My understanding is that the responsibility for allowing him to live falls upon Sistani and possibly alMaliki, not upon anybody on the US side of the equation here. I’m sure that you and your friends could have wiped him out.

Thanks for your great service, and I greatly respect your opinions.


26 posted on 04/21/2008 8:48:05 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: goldstategop
I really hope Mookie makes good on his threat. By the time he takes it up, he may not have much of a militia left with which to do battle.

Like the other Miscreant "leaders", he sends everyone else out to fight and die while he sits far away in safety in another country.

I have confidence in the newly trained Iraqi Army = as seen in this recent action in Sadr City - with our Spec Opts for backup. (One thing they know for sure is the meaning of "GO-GO-GO!" We trained 'em good!)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tMDhVu-f2Q

27 posted on 04/21/2008 8:51:11 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: RC2
Take this guy out.

I think he knows we will now - should he dare show his face in Iraq. That's why he hides in Iran

28 posted on 04/21/2008 8:54:18 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Just a Typical White, gun-toting, Jesus-loving Gramma)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

“Muqtada al Sadr, the leader of the Mahdi Army, threatened to end the self-imposed cease-fire.”

Question:Why is it that you can’t circumcize this guy?

Answer:There’s no end to this pr*ck.


29 posted on 04/21/2008 8:57:46 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you, Jimmy Carter for all you've done to make the world a safer place.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I’m all for taking this guy out, but I’m not sure I support the disarming of the population. There’s still a chance that someday the Iraqis will find that they took out a tyrant only to have another one take his place. They need arms to be able to make sure that doesn’t happen. Also, it just seems very dangerous over there. I’d sure want a gun.


30 posted on 04/21/2008 9:13:54 AM PDT by onguard
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To: AFPhys

In April 2004 Sadr began an uprising during the transition between 1AD and 1CD. 1AD was extended and elements of this division more or less chased him and his merry men all through Iraq, crushing them at every engagement. He attempted to use the holly shrines in Karbala as protection and after we peeled him even from there, he fled to Najef and then Kufa. The orders were simple “Dead or alive,” dead being preferred. This was also the time of the “transition of authority” to the Iraqi’s and Bremmer didn’t want to deal with the mess, because we really were creating a mess of cities, bad press, etc etc etc. We were eventually told to stand down, even though we had parked a track pad on his neck by then. Sadr screaming that he’ll negotiate, and the fact that Bremmer wanted the intense fighting to stop caused us to be called off, a decision that looked good in the short run. You need to understand that in April 2004 when this began we actually dropped a few 500 pound bombs in Baghdad; this wasn’t small what was going on and Bremmer didn’t want this sort of attention. Of course negotiations never lead to anything since they’re nothing but stalling or get out of jail free cards for someone like Sadr and eventually he began starting problems again, but Bremmer was long gone.

In 2003 without getting into to much detail, we had him literally in our sights and we could have taken him out, but at that time he wasn’t the big problem yet, and the feeling was that killing him would cause more problems than just dealing with him. Some even thought that we might be able to bring him into the process, which of course today appears like a joke. Sadr wasn’t immediately that big of a problem, but because of his fame (Through his father) the thought was that killing him would cause a giant $hit storm among the Shia population. Let’s just say, that in 2003, he and many others didn’t really know what we could do, in so far as targeting and the capabilities of certain ordinance and at that time he exposed himself in ways where had we wanted too, we could have lit him up. The point is that we had him in our sights on several occasions, but political considerations both internal to Iraq, our allies and ourselves have caused us to back off, which has only allowed this disease “Sadr,” to live on and do more damage.

You need to understand that while the Iraqi’s are taking control of the show; in 2003 – 2004 we were the show in town.


31 posted on 04/21/2008 10:05:11 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Red6

Thanks for your lesson. I thought that even back in 2004, that Sistani had been one of the major reasons that Sadr was not blasted. Sounds like I may be wrong about that, from your account of events, though I was aware of much of what you just wrote.


32 posted on 04/21/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: montag813
In 2003 this cockroach, whose thugs burned American bodies in Fallujah just weeks before...

Hmmm. Not sure I knew that Mookie, a Shiite leader, was calling shots in Fallujah, a Sunni stronghold. Could it be that you are getting him mixed up with someone else or am I the one who has it mixed up?

33 posted on 04/21/2008 11:52:38 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Hey Sadr!

Come out, come out wherever you are,
Come out, come out and die!


34 posted on 04/21/2008 1:06:39 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Come on Patsy . . . let us away! This one’s a looney!


35 posted on 04/21/2008 1:58:16 PM PDT by jayef
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Thanks Tennessean4Bush.

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36 posted on 04/21/2008 6:44:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: pissant

We think alike. ;’)


37 posted on 04/21/2008 6:45:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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