Posted on 04/24/2008 7:29:45 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
Illegal immigration costs American taxpayers $346 billion annually and, besides the well-documented areas of education, jail and medical care, the money is being spent on manpower for overwhelmed government agencies. A renowned economist, who has thoroughly researched the impact of illegal immigration and published numerous reports and articles, recently published an alarming alarming book on the subject. In his book, Edwin Rubenstein exposes the GARGANTUAN COSTS of illegal aliens. The book supports previous reports of U.S. employers of illegal aliens raking in billions thanks to the cheap labor while American taxpayers subsidize the ordeal. U.S. prisons are also overwhelmed with illegals with 147,000 illegal aliens in local jails, 74,000 in state prisons and 46,000 in federal prisons. About 28% of all federal prisoners are illegal immigrants, and the cost to taxpayers is about $5.4 billion a year. Many are repeat offenders that get released into communities rather than deported. Numerous such cases have made headlines because the illegal immigrants had previous convictions yet were released to commit murder, rape and scores of drunk-driving offenses. These figures DON'T even INCLUDE the billions of dollars U.S. taxpayers dish out annually to provide free educations and medical care for those in the country illegally.
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This is the real corporate welfare that we have tolerated for the last 20 years.

"That Sucking Sound You Hear is Mexico Sucking Billions of Dollars Outta The US!! -- I Tried To Warn Ya! "
We had at least two candidates for president, Tancredo and Hunter, who talked about this and look where it got us. Someone here one day told me this issue is barely on the radar of “important issues”.
Personally, I’m mad enough to scream over this. We have been sold out.
Bump.
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None of the candidates are able or willing to fight WOT. The biggest threat to this country comes from open borders and having hordes of immigrants from enemy nations and illegal aliens roam the country. The planes on 9/11 took off not from Iraq but from American soil.
“U.S. prisons are also overwhelmed with illegals with 147,000 illegal aliens in local jails, 74,000 in state prisons and 46,000 in federal prisons. About 28% of all federal prisoners are illegal immigrants, and the cost to taxpayers is about $5.4 billion a year.”
Jeraldo will be crushed! He insists these people don’t do crime!
As a defeated Tancredo/Hunter supporter, I couldn’t agree more. They were both prophetic on the issue but, tragically, they were both marginalized by the MSM, the ethnocentric pressure groups, business special interest lobbies (U.S. Chamber of Commerce, etc.) that love cheap labor with no basic benefits, and politicians pandering to the Hispanic vote. And what burns my hide is that Tancredo had the best rating by the American Conservative Union. I also blame the RNC and George Bush and Carl Rove who wouldn’t even talk to Tancredo and banned him from the White House. With friends like them who needs liberal enemies?
Great cartoon. “Many a truth is said in jest!”
Until we find a politician or more than one who will stand up for us, this is just pissing in the wind. NOBODY will defend our borders! I don’t get it! Do these idiots think illegals will carry the day for them? What will politicians do when the tax base dries up and most major American cities will be broke? This is already happening. If these rat bastards think raising taxes is the answer, Who’s going to be left to pay them?....
Of course the simple answers are fiscal responsibilty and spending within your means but try and tell that to these asshat politicians! Eventually they are going to have to do it and forget about fricking global warming and other liberal whack left happy crap! GET to BASICS and run a LEAN government!!!
We’ve become slaves to big business.
Rivera is a rabid ethnocentrist and if a white or Asian promoted the illegal preferences for their ethnic groups like he does, he’d be the first to scream “racism!” By the way, his mother was Jewish but it’s not chic for a macho Hispanic to mention that! What a mountebank and a fraud!
I agree and sometimes I think we can’t see the national forest for all the special interest, racial, commercial and ethnocentric trees! It’s almost like we have a collective death wish! “Civilizations don’t die from murder, but by suicide.” - Arnold Toynbee
Exactly right. And one of our BASICS is our U.S. Constitution. Article.IV., Section.4., says: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion.” Even the open-borders crowd can’t deny it’s a foreign illegal invasion. But the special interest and pressure groups, along with a liberal activist judiciary, choose to ignore or reinterpret the plain English meaning and original intent of these words to advance their own personal agendas.
I think that’s a good observation. Even at the height of the Cold War the Soviet Union never wanted to subdue us with a war of MAD. They preferred to do it by internal subversion.
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says
When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.
Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.
Wanted for Murder in New York City.
Chicago wanted for Murder
Philadelphia wanted for murder
San Francisco wanted for Murder
New Orleans wanted for Murder
Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC
FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals
There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.
Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.
Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs
Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.
To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.
All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. See also here and here
However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.
I believe that's a generally subscribed to truism. And in this case, a tip-off of what the game plan really is. Making it easier to lay down our sovereignty and flag and opt for inter-dependence along with Mexico and Canada, et al. Which also paves the way for the Amero and devaluation.
No...it was barely on the radar screen of the MSM and the pooh-bahs of Wall Street...just as the unrest in Paris was barely on Louis XVI's radar screen prior to his fall.
Jaime Epstein just isn't quite as macho a name as Geraldo Rivera.
Well they have been willing to 'war' with US using anybody and everybody they could fund. North Korea was Stalin's own personal stepchild at the end of WWII and was, that is until Yeltsin got the Clintons to adopt them. Then there is Vietnam that was orchestrated and funded out of sight and out of a whole lot of minds. It was Soviet or so the media labeled them as such that fled Iraq when Baghdad fell on the road to Damascus. And who has seen fit to provide nuclear base to Iran and arm Chavez.... on and on it goes...
Meanwhile we had the Alinsky model getting planted across this nation at the institutions of higher learning... hence we have Hillary and Obama using the same model against each other.
One cannot not ignore even with the appearances that communism is dead to see the roots planted under many factions around this globe with the intent and purpose even to those carrying out the model as the compassionate thing to do for humanity. Communism at its base is formulating and instituting the idea to peoples salvation comes from the 'state' and that notion is flourishing as though that old system took root under a different tree.
thanks for the ping!
I agree. Tancredo was my first choice.
Thanks for all the information. Yes, I think the PC pretenders try their best to hide the reality but it’s too obvious and affecting too many Americans now to suppress. Lincoln was right when he said you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all the time. Illegal immigration is so massive and catastrophic that it’s degrading our whole culture. If it isn’t soon seriously dealt with the consequences aren’t going to be pleasant to behold.
Right - I think a big part of the story of history is the story of the struggle against various forms of totalitarianism. By the way, I’m now reading and immensely enjoying Joneh Goldberg’s new book, “Liberal Fascism.” I’m learning alot and it’s fascinating how all fascism has its roots in leftist ideology. Even more fascinating is his account of how “happy” or “smiley face” forms of fascism have permeated our society - in ways that are surprising and shocking. Anyway, I won’t turn this into a book review but if you havn’t read it I recommend it!
It looks that way. When a business becomes too powerful and too big it - paradoxically - ceases to be a part of the competitive free market system. I read in Jonah Goldberg’s book that big corporations actually like a lot of regulations and legal complexities. Why? Because such are an economic barrier to small corporations who don’t have the capital and other resources necessary to grow and become competitors! I never thought of that.
Ping!
This probably sounds odd but it occurred to me that the oil companies could be in favor of the environmental restrictions on drilling because this makes the price go up. I really don’t know as much as I should about the breakdown of all this but the oil companies are the ones reaping windfall profits now.
I suspect neither party is willing or able to do anything about all this at the present time.
Exactly. And even as they run our economy into the ground, in order to resurrect it, they will tell us that inter-dependence is economically necessary, sovereignty be damned.
And that's not a small number.
When Rudy was running for the Republican nomination he used a, quick, sounds good, throw away line regarding illegals. He said that he wasn't going to take 70,000 kids out of school and throw them on the street.
70,000 kids times $15,000 = $1,050,000,000.
That's over a $Billion a year, every year, for just schooling in one city. I think that my admitted estimate of $15,000 a head for schooling in NYC is on the very low end.
Bttt!
It really hits home when you see it in terms of those numbers. It reminded me of what the late Bill Buckley said when he was asked about the added costs to public education when one added bilingual education to the bill. He said it was a high price to pay for producing students who were “semi-literate in two languages.” Only Buckley could come up with that!
That’s exactly the sort of thing Goldberg was talking about. I don’t know either but nothing would surprise me today.
All true. But the McCain people are bent on selling out Americans.
I think a good caption for that photo would be “digging the grave of national sovereignty and secure borders to secure big bucks for a few corporations.”
I know and it’s pretty sad when one has to choose which one of the three stooges is the least dangerous. Anyway, I suppose compared to Obama McCain looks less toxic!
Here are some details with links. Read em and weep:
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot spe ak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP TS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and
marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, “estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.”
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. “The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States “.
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
Total cost is a whopping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!
They're now planning toll lanes on FREEWAYS in LA, roads which were paid for by gas taxes. Emergency rooms have been closing. School funding is being reduced (it can't be all bad), prisons bursting at the seams with illegals, and on and on. But every Cal dem says, no need to look at illegals.
Thanks for all that information, alarming and depressing as it is! Regards,
I knew things were bad out there after I read some of those dire statistics in Pat Buchanan’s book “State of Emergency,” in which he made a very convincing case that California was rapidly becoming a Third World state. He also mentioned how productive people were leaving the state because of confiscatory taxes, crime and the illegal alien invasion. I knew Schwarzenegger wasn’t a social conservative but I thought at least he was fiscally responsible. Apparently, he’s now part of that problem. Welcome to Mexifornia! I heard about those tolls on Rush’s program. Are you able or desirous of relocating or are you in one of those increasingly rare civilized enclaves?
I'd move, but my hubby's family is all here and our grandchildren.
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