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Recruiting the undocumented for the military is proposed
http://www.tampabay.com/news/military/article474777.ece ^ | April 26, 2008 | Jose Cardenas

Posted on 04/27/2008 2:00:26 AM PDT by Antonio C

CLEARWATER — This month's death of Army Spc. Arturo Huerta-Cruz in Iraq cast a spotlight on troops serving in the U.S. military who are not American citizens.

Huerta-Cruz, 23, was born in a small town in rural Mexico and moved to Clearwater with his family when he was 10. He was a legal permanent resident, or a "green card" soldier.

That made him an exception. Noncitizens account for about 5 percent of the troops in all the branches of the U.S. military. Noncitizens now must have green cards to enlist.

But as the nation fights wars on two fronts, some wonder whether the military should recruit more heavily among immigrants here — even undocumented ones — as well as foreigners in their own countries.

Yes, say some intellectuals at Washington, D.C., think tanks.

"Those of us who support recruiting foreigners believe they are often very skilled, motivated, and in the great American tradition of immigration," Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution senior fellow on foreign policy said in an e-mail.

The "Dream Act" bill that failed in Congress last year would have done more than legalize undocumented high school students who aspire to college. It also would have given green cards to undocumented high school students who served in the military.

Such students "are well educated, they are not troublemakers, they are bilingual," said Jorge Mariscal, a professor of Latino studies at the University of California, San Diego.

"The military wants to get their hands on those folks," added Mariscal, a Vietnam veteran.

The nonprofit CNA Corp. based in Virginia has recommended mining the legal immigrant community more heavily for military recruits.

"One overlooked source of military manpower is immigrants and their families," according to a 2005 report by CNA, which advises public employers on issues ranging from national security to international affairs.

"In fact," the organization concluded, "much of the growth in the recruitment-eligible population will come from immigration."

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Along with immigrant groups who have fought for the United States — Irish-Americans in the Civil War, for example — noncitizens also have enlisted since the Revolutionary War.

Green card soldiers have received widespread publicity during the Iraq war because some of the first casualties were Latin-American immigrants.

One was Lance Cpl. Jose Antonio Gutierrez, 22, from Southern California.

Gutierrez was an orphan in Guatemala. Fleeing poverty, he came to the United States illegally. In Southern California, he entered the foster care system and got a green card.

He joined the Marines.

He was killed on March 21, 2003, by enemy fire as American troops tried to secure Umm Qasr. A movie about him, The Short Life of Jose Antonio Gutierrez, was released last year.

After the war started, President Bush signed an executive order allowing immigrants in the military to apply for citizenship immediately. Congress followed with legislation that shortened the time that immigrants in the military have to wait during peacetime to apply for citizenship, from three years to one year.

As of February, there were 20,326 immigrants in active duty in all branches of the military. Another 13,151 were in the Reserves.

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It's a small slice of the military, but CNA recommends that the armed forces should target more legal immigrants as recruits.

The foreign-born population in the United States at the time of the CNA report — 12 percent — was at least twice as high as their representation in the military.

Also, a third of the world's population is younger than 15, and many of those young people will make their way to the United States, where some will become legal residents.

For the military, the linguistic and cultural diversity of noncitizens are especially valuable, the CNA authors said.

They add that many immigrants are interested in the expedited process for citizenship that enlisted immigrants receive.

Meanwhile, O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution and Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow Max Boot have called for a "new chapter in the annals of American immigration."

Their proposal: give foreigners recruited from other countries as well as those already here citizenship after four years of military service. That, they believe, could create a path toward assimilation for undocumented immigrants without green cards. Besides, they note, the military already relaxed age and other restrictions, including those accepting enlistees with criminal records, to meet recruiting goals.

"The idea of offering citizenship to foreigners who first join the armed forces should be a winner for everyone," they wrote in the Washington Post in 2006. "It is good for immigrants. … It is good for a beleaguered American military that is simply too small for the tasks it has been handed."

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Not surprisingly, others oppose the idea of increasing the number of noncitizens fighting for American ideals.

The military would become a low-wage occupation like other industries now dominated by immigrants, warns Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors more restrictive immigration policies.

"If enlisting were a way to get legalized or a way to get into the United States," Krikorian said, "soldiering would become a job Americans would not do very rapidly."

Some in the Hispanic community, already weary of recruitment among its youths, agree.

Said Mariscal: "It would be another example of the exploitation of cheap labor."

Even now, American citizenship is not guaranteed for immigrant serving in the military, Mariscal said. Meanwhile, some countries strip their nationals of citizenship if they serve in foreign militaries.

"Those people who did it would have no country," Mariscal said.

In Clearwater, Huerta-Cruz — one of 144 immigrants who have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001 — was buried Tuesday.

Calvary Catholic Cemetery on U.S. 19 is his final resting place.

And one day, the United States could become his home country.

That's because Army officials have said they will seek posthumous citizenship for Huerta-Cruz.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; aliens; gangs; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; iraq; naturalization; recruitment; usmilitary; wot
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1 posted on 04/27/2008 2:00:26 AM PDT by Antonio C
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To: Antonio C

Hell, why not just the conscription of foreigners into the military?
Mexicans who pass out drunk after eating the worm in a port town could wake up the next day on a naval vessel headed for the Persian Gulf...


2 posted on 04/27/2008 2:23:26 AM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: Antonio C

Hey what did good old George Washington do? Fought for his citizenship. So long as they aren’t gang affiliated, isn’t someone willing to die for this country exactly the sort of person we WANT to become an American citizen?


3 posted on 04/27/2008 2:23:43 AM PDT by Bastiat_Fan (Please don't call me a PaulTard... Surrender Monkey is so much more pleasing to the ears!)
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To: Antonio C

Why not let them enlist and then pay them to “guard” the southern border? Surprised el presidente hasn’t tried this out yet as a job that “Americans just won’t do.” /sarc


4 posted on 04/27/2008 2:26:07 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Vote for the Dim in the primaries that leads to a brokered convention and chaos)
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To: Antonio C

> But as the nation fights wars on two fronts, some wonder whether the military should recruit more heavily among immigrants here — even undocumented ones — as well as foreigners in their own countries.

Built along the French Foreign Legion lines, this idea could work quite well.


5 posted on 04/27/2008 2:26:21 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Antonio C

I’d rather see us recruit them — forcibly — into several years of hard labor building the wall, before being sent back to their native countries with “Property of the [Mexican, for example] government” tattoed on their foreheads.


6 posted on 04/27/2008 2:32:26 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Antonio C

OK, let’s do it. Then we can “station” all the illegals in their country of origin. Problem solved.


7 posted on 04/27/2008 2:33:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Antonio C

Does America Need A Foreign Legion?
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/new/article056.html


8 posted on 04/27/2008 2:40:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (McCain could never convince me to vote for him. Only Hillary or Obama can!)
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To: peyton randolph

I like your thinking.


9 posted on 04/27/2008 3:25:20 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
OK, let’s do it. Then we can “station” all the illegals, along with their families, in their country of origin. Problem solved.

I edited your comment just a bit.

10 posted on 04/27/2008 3:28:11 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: Antonio C
"give foreigners recruited from other countries as well as those already here citizenship after four years of military service. "

Lemme see, if 100,000 foreigners signed up tomorrow, in four years we'd have...

11 posted on 04/27/2008 3:31:14 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Bushbacker1

That’ll work. ;-)


12 posted on 04/27/2008 3:47:51 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Antonio C

Is it really difficult to get a green card. Why not just apply for the green card and then enlist. Does not sound unreasonable.


13 posted on 04/27/2008 3:53:45 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
Why not just apply for the green card and then enlist. Does not sound unreasonable.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Agreed. Every recruiting office should be able to say: " You want to stay in the US? Apply for a green card and enlist , 5 years to run parallel with your green card requirement of continuous residence before applying for US citizenship. You complete your service honorably, you can become a US citizen.

The ones that do not want to enlist? Arrest them and send 'em home.

14 posted on 04/27/2008 4:25:32 AM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing.)
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To: Antonio C

Couldn’t be more wrong.
Ask the Romans how they made out with Visigoths in their army.


15 posted on 04/27/2008 4:28:42 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The republic is over kids!)
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To: Antonio C

Shows a real clear understanding of how the military works.


16 posted on 04/27/2008 4:32:02 AM PDT by anton
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I'm no historian but if my memory serves me right you are more than correct with the problems the Romans had by incorporating non-citizens into their military structure. Just look at the problems we're having with recent espionage cases. These were naturalized Americans selling secrets to the foreign countries of their ancestry.
17 posted on 04/27/2008 4:35:11 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: RU88

It is suicide to take invading criminals and train them as part of the world’s greatest military.

When they get out they go back and form a real invasion force, or settle in here as a fifth column.

The U.S. seems bent on suicide.


18 posted on 04/27/2008 4:42:47 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The republic is over kids!)
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To: Bastiat_Fan

Hey what did good old George Washington do? Fought for his citizenship. So long as they aren’t gang affiliated, isn’t someone willing to die for this country exactly the sort of person we WANT to become an American citizen?
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That will bring even more illegal aliens here both men and woman who want into our military. Most illegal Mexican/Central Americans are illiterates. We can publish special comic books for them on how to operate say— a howitzer

Yeah— Get illegal alien women into our military where they can make papusas and anchor babies


19 posted on 04/27/2008 5:09:59 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Your post is dead on.


20 posted on 04/27/2008 5:12:16 AM PDT by nygoose
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