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DNC coffers dry amid flood of Dem cash
Politico ^
| 5/2/2008
| DAVID PAUL KUHN
Posted on 05/02/2008 6:03:42 AM PDT by Soliton
According to the latest Federal Election Commission reports filed through the end of March, the RNC had $31 million in cash on hand while the DNC had only $5.3 million. The RNC has raised $36.5 million this year while the DNC has raised $17.7 million.
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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dnc; fundingtheleft; hillary; obama; operationchaos
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:03:44 AM PDT
by
Soliton
To: Soliton; Alas Babylon!
Dr. Dean will be on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace this weekend.
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:10:32 AM PDT
by
Miss Didi
("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
To: Soliton
A lot of wishful thinking going on at DNC these days...
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:15:08 AM PDT
by
Virginia Ridgerunner
("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
To: Soliton
Wasn’t Dr. Dean a fundraising wunderkind???
He’s fired!
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:16:44 AM PDT
by
Fox_Mulder77
(McCain's FR tag: McLlort)
To: Soliton
RNC’s take this year is a drop in the bucket compared to what they would receive if they stopped running RINOs.
They sure as sherlock didn’t get any money from me and haven’t since they screwed up running the Congress last time.
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:19:24 AM PDT
by
chrisser
(The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
To: chrisser
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:24:50 AM PDT
by
Obadiah
(I dream of the day when chickens can cross the road without having their motives questioned!)
To: Soliton
By contrast the Republican Congressional and Senate committees (the NRCC and NRSC) are bankrupt relative to the flush Democrat Congressional and Senate committees (the DCCC and DSCC) meaning while we might get our RINO into the White House, there’s no way in hell we’re going to pick up seats in Congress.
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:27:39 AM PDT
by
Alter Kaker
(Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
To: chrisser
My thought too. If McCain was a real conservative, he could clean up in both contributions and votes.
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posted on
05/02/2008 6:28:15 AM PDT
by
tips up
To: chrisser
RNCs take this year is a drop in the bucket compared to what they would receive if they stopped running RINOs. Are you infering the RNC is recruiting RINOS for the sake of having more RINOS? I don't think so. Anyone can run. If you're unhappy with your elected representatives, either encourage more conservative to run in the primaries or run yourself. You're never going to agree with someone 100 of the time anyway. Maybe things are better than you think.
Even McCain can do some things right some of the time and I can guarantee Hitlery or Osama will never do anything right.
To: Soliton
It is a simple rule that you always get more of whatever you reward. NEVER give money to the RNC -- they will just give it to RINO candidates who betray your Conservative principles. ALWAYS give money directly to individual Conservative candidates who share your core values.
To: Always A Marine
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posted on
05/02/2008 7:27:18 AM PDT
by
cameraeye
(The Lords Prayer on Obama's Lips? Where's the video?)
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Are you infering the RNC is recruiting RINOS for the sake of having more RINOS?
Whenever there are two Republican candidates running for an office, the RNC backs the RINO over the conservative. They will support a incumbent RINO, no matter how lame and inept, over a challenging conservative.
Ken Blackwell is a perfect example of the former, Taft of the latter. Taft was so lame that Strickland, a Democrat, actually is more conservative on some issues and is a helluva lot better governor.
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posted on
05/02/2008 8:19:22 AM PDT
by
chrisser
(The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
To: chrisser; Conservativegreatgrandma
Whenever there are two Republican candidates running for an office, the RNC backs the RINO over the conservative. They will support a incumbent RINO, no matter how lame and inept, over a challenging conservativeHave you been in the room when these decisions on who to back are made? If so, please tell us how the process works. If not, please leave your speculation on the porch.
I've been involved in discussions regarding WHICH state candidates will receive money, and I can tell you it's a little more complicated than just giving the most conservative candidate the cash. Actually, issues polls are cross referenced with candidate popularity polls and name ID polls. Then party registration numbers are considered.
It's important to acknowledge that an Ultra Conservative cannot be elected in a district that leans Moderately Republican to Conservative D.
The candidate MUST mirror the tastes of the majority of that District's voters.
I will wait to read your post describing your experiences in making decisions like these.
To: Soliton
A nice piece of good news for a change.
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posted on
05/02/2008 9:08:27 AM PDT
by
jmaroneps37
(Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
To: Iowa Granny
I will wait to read your post describing your experiences in making decisions like these.
My experience? I decide when to open my checkbook, I decide how much to write and I decide to whom to send it.
What goes on behind the scenes in the party is frankly irrelevant. I am not, nor do I want to be, a party hack. The more I observe what happens in the party as you get closer to the top, the more disgusted I get. What matters to me are the results - what do we say we believe and who is going to best represent those beliefs. Electability as defined by polls should be used as a last resort to choose between two otherwise qualified candidates, not as a first resort to see who we can slip into office with an (R) behind their name, and then, if they half-heartedly believe in a couple of pieces of the party platform, well that's a bonus.
I really couldn't care less about the Republican party as an organization. I'd vote (D) in a hearbeat if they embraced conservative ideals. If they just pretended to, it would put them about even with the current Republican party, IMHO.
Opinion poles, popularity poles and name-recognition polls? The very fact that you bring these up indicates that you just don't get it, and your friends making decisions don't either. This is exactly why many like me have stopped sending our hard-earned money to the corrupted party organization.
The Republican party is a tool for advancing conservative ideals. I'm not voting because I want to see little (R)s on CSpan, I'm voting to advance an agenda - an agenda that the Republican party platform says Republicans believe in. If the candidates can't do that, then I'd much prefer they didn't run so the party and its platform don't get tarred with the failures caused by going against them.
A perfect example is the fiscal disaster when Republicans held Congress. The 2004 platform has plenty to say about lowering spending, spending responsibly, etc. So what good did it do to hold Congress for those two years? We sure as heck didn't demonstrate the superiority of Republican leadership. We didn't demonstrate our ideas were better - because we didn't even try them. Worse, we didn't demonstrate that we actually believe in what the party stands for, which throws the whole platform into suspicion and will likely cost us any hope for control of Congress for decades along with any further USSC nominations. So yeah, we grabbed control of Congress, and not only did it matter little, it made things worse for our agenda. Lets keep doing the same thing, because its working so well.
"The candidate MUST mirror the tastes of the majority of that District's voters."
Here's a crazy idea. Maybe you should sit down. If a Republican acting as a Republican doesn't mirror the tastes of a majority of that district's voters then he/she doesn't deserve to be elected and shouldn't be elected. If he has to be a RINO to get elected and the party is fine with that, then we had darned well better take a look at what our party stands for, because we obviously don't believe any of it is actually true.
One of the main reasons the party was founded was to eliminate slavery. Should we have compromised on slavery to get elected? We're supposed to be the party of limited government and fiscal restraint. What good does it do for us to run someone who doesn't believe in that - a major Republican idea? I don't expect to find someone who is 100% conservative, but we can't even get candidates that act like they agree with more than one or two major planks of the platform.
There are more than a few candidates on the other side of the aisle that we could elect that would be that conservative, so what benefit are we getting for keeping this RNC circus alive?
Better to donate to the individual over the collective, which oddly enough sounds more in alignment with conservative (and apparently formerly Republican) principles anyway.
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posted on
05/02/2008 12:19:59 PM PDT
by
chrisser
(The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
To: Soliton
Its a little nuts that we are spending so much money fighting each other instead of Republicans, the official continued. We should be doing things that start defining McCain our way instead of his way. And if we had more money we could do more.
Sorry, but that is how it will be until an official Dem nominee is decided. The way things are looking, that will not happen until the convention in August. Enjoy the ride!
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posted on
05/02/2008 12:24:13 PM PDT
by
rob777
(Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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posted on
05/02/2008 1:21:10 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
To: chrisser
Since you admit to never having been on the inside when those decisions are made, in order to protect your credibility, I would enourage you to discontinue implying that you know how decisions are being made there.
I’m glad you are still cutting checks to individual candidates.
To: Iowa Granny
Since you admit to never having been on the inside when those decisions are made, in order to protect your credibility, I would enourage you to discontinue implying that you know how decisions are being made there
Yes we uppity party members should just let our massas make de decisions, shut up and send those checks. We're too stupid to actually look at candidates' records and statements and draw our own conclusions - we must trust the insiders in the party.
And you people wonder why those RNC mailers come back unanswered. Damn elitists. I guess we should be grateful you've come on down from the mountain to mingle with us mere voters.
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posted on
05/02/2008 3:18:04 PM PDT
by
chrisser
(The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
To: Iowa Granny
I understand the desire to have a totally conservative legislature. Wouldn't we all like that, but the reality is that we have to advance our agenda any way we can.
Liberals understand full well the necessity of advancing an agenda incrementally. Unfortunately, conservatives do not understand that.
If we wait until we have all 100% acceptable conservatives before we'll support them, we will be forever relegated to the minority and we will be drummed back into oblivion.
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Liberals understand full well the necessity of advancing an agenda incrementally.NO KIDDING. That's exactly HOW the Iowa Dems took control of the Iowa House during the last election cycle, by running Pro Life Democrats.
We are going to need all the volunteers we can get if we have any hope of reclaiming the House in November. I'm going to help. Are you?
To: chrisser
We're too stupid to actually look at candidates' records and statements and draw our own conclusions - we must trust the insiders in the party.
And you people wonder why those RNC mailers come back unanswered. Damn elitists. I guess we should be grateful you've come on down from the mountain to mingle with us mere voters.I didn't say anything of the kind, and I will not let you put word in my mouth.
In your initial post you implied you knew EXACTLY how the RNC made their decision on who to fund and who not to fund. I asked for additional details.
I have NEVER been at the table when the RNC made funding decision, and I certainly didn't imply that I have. My knowledge is how state money is distributed. A far cry from the RNC.
Get that chip off your shoulder, Buddy, and go volunteer to help a candidate you can support. The Democrats are counting on continuing the gains they made during the Tidal Wave in the last election. It's up to us to prove them wrong.
To: Iowa Granny
I try to convice those I talk to that a pro-life Democrat is useless unless they are in the minority. Then they would have some value but otherwise it would be impossible to advance any kind of pro-life agenda with Democrats in the majority. They would never allow any pro-life legislation to ever make it out of a committee. It would be DOA.
RINOs drive me crazy but right now I would be very happy to have three more RINOs in the Iowa House. This disaster would never have happened if we had 3 more RINOs.
To: Conservativegreatgrandma
RINOs drive me crazy but right now I would be very happy to have three more RINOs in the Iowa House. This disaster would never have happened if we had 3 more RINOsBINGO
So many people just do not grasp the concept that when you vote in November you should be voting for WHICH PARTY you want to determine what bills come to the floor for debate.
You and I both know that with the Republicans in control the Iowa General Assembly would not have considered bills to force workers to unionize, or to give the Governor a humongous salary increase.
To: Iowa Granny
Or legalized embryonic stem cell research, or to take away the private property rights of restaurant and bar owners by telling them their patrons cannot smoke there but yet, they exempt casinos or put a $1.00 per pack cig tax, or fund Planned Parenthood to the tune of $700,000. This list can go on and on. I am shocked at the destruction these RATS inflicted on this state in a little over on year.
What about a 17% increase in spending in a little over a year? Yup, there's no difference between Republicans and Democrats--everyone knows that.
To: Soliton
...DNC official explained, the eventual Democratic nominee could burn through much of his or her primary election cash before the convention and donors might be less responsive to pleas for more money once the nomination battle is settled leaving the campaign cash-strapped for a prolonged period before the convention, after which the separate general election funds can be tapped. opensecrets.org says Hitlery has 8,128 contributors who have given the max $4,600 (2,300 for the primary election and 2,300 for the general election.) That's $18,694,400 that can't be spent until she gets the nomination. Yet she has $31,712,197 on hand and $15,321,562 in debt. Something doesn't add up.
I dont know if the Obama campaign will have so much money by the time that he wins, if he wins, the DNC official said. Meantime, voter file, opposition research, voter outreach we should be doing all the things that the Republicans are doing.
The sluggish fundraising might also inhibit so-called hybrid advertising, which numbered in the tens of millions in 2004. Hybrid advertising is based on a loophole in FEC regulations, discovered and first exploited by the Bush campaign four years ago, in which the party and campaign can split advertising budgets.
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posted on
05/03/2008 11:33:09 PM PDT
by
Once-Ler
(If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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