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The Race Perplex: Obama, the white vote and a venerable American argument (Kneepad alert)
Newsweek ^ | May 14, 2008 | Howard Fineman

Posted on 05/14/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I'll never forget a frigid morning in Springfield: Sen. Barack Obama, elegantly Lincolnesque in a long wool coat, launching his presidential candidacy in the shadow of the old Illinois State Capitol. The echoes of history were almost deafening—not just of Abraham Lincoln, who, like Obama, had been a legislator there, but of the argument over slavery and race that Lincoln had joined there.

On that sunny February day in 2007, Obama seemed to radiate uplift and glorious possibility. He was making a statement: that his candidacy would be the exclamation point at the end of our four-century-long argument over the role of African-Americans in our society. By electing a mixed-race man of evident brilliance, moderate mien and welcoming smile, we would finally cease seeing each other through color-coded eyes.

Well, that argument did not end. He and we were naive to think it would. In our country, uniquely based on and blessed by the idea of individual freedom, the most profound argument always this: who is fully a person in the eyes of our society and law? The Constitution enshrines and protects "persons." But who is one and, just as important, who isn't?

In some ways, as the 2008 presidential campaign shows—and the racially lopsided West Virginia results from Tuesday night remind us—we have yet to fully answer the questions.

A century and a half ago, the American Argument over personhood sparked one of the bloodiest disputes any nation has ever had with itself: our Civil War. But the enduring debate also spawned tremendous social progress and constitutional changes, not just for blacks but for women, gays, lesbians and others. The phrase "We the People" has a far broader meaning than our white male Christian Founders imagined.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008electionbias; blackvote; election; elections; fineman; kneepadbrigade; newsweak; obama; obamagasm; whitevote
Oh my goodness! Why not build an altar to Obama?!
1 posted on 05/14/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks vote for him because they think he’s black. Every poll in every part of every state says this. Now the ‘white vote’ is the issue. Isn’t that like double racism?


2 posted on 05/14/2008 8:43:52 PM PDT by allmost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The media is gonna build us up a big ole Race War before this is over. When Bambi loses, we’re gonna see things that make the 60’s look good.

Hillary’s Helter Skelter may yet come to fruition.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 8:44:47 PM PDT by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How absurd. I didn’t think Fineman was a total idiot until now. Obama is the single most racially divisive figure in American politics since the Civil War. He’s much more powerful than Sharpton, Jackson, or Farrakhan. Obama’s words and actions speak for themselves. He is a hate-filled, extremist who had a knack for changing his identity to cover up his radical hatred of his own whiteness and, by extension, the US (by his own admission, as evidenced by his pseudo-autobiography, Dreams of My Father). He is the Manchurian Candidate.


4 posted on 05/14/2008 8:46:05 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newsweek recently accused the GOP of scaring voters since the 60’s. They shamelessly take sides much like the rest of the liberal media.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 8:47:26 PM PDT by Kleebo151
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To: digger48

“When Bambi loses, we’re gonna see things that make the 60’s look good.”

And if he wins, it’s going to be even worse.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 8:50:37 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama is a member of the Far Wright Conspiracy.......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'll never forget a frigid morning in Springfield:

Uncle Jeremiah will never forget it, either. He showed up with his "A" material ready to perform on the main stage, and his arrogant nephew stuffed him in the basement for a prayer with Barry, the lovely and charming Mrs. Barry, and some clown known as Turbin Durbin.

7 posted on 05/14/2008 8:51:42 PM PDT by Biblebelter (If the big blue states got to choose the Republican nominee, I say let them elect him in the fall)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...and the racially lopsided West Virginia results...

And I suppose we're supposed to believe that the North Carolina results weren't racially lopsided?

8 posted on 05/14/2008 8:57:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
man of evident brilliance

Yes quite evident in those "57 states" he's visited and the tornado that wiped out an entire Kansas town, killing 10,000 according to Obama, but in reality about 12 people.
9 posted on 05/14/2008 8:59:36 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10 posted on 05/14/2008 9:04:02 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe we’re witnessing a myth constructed of whole cloth..

Obama is neither the man he says he is, or the man his followers say he is...

I hope they see the man that is, before it is too late.


11 posted on 05/14/2008 9:05:28 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m having a new “vanity” tag made for the front of my Chevy Silverado - it says “Typical White Truck”.


12 posted on 05/14/2008 9:05:28 PM PDT by FrankR (OBAMA is the VAST WRIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY...)
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To: allmost

Isn’t it amazing that they are talking so much about the WHITE vote when they never gave a flying flip about it before boy how times have changed. I have never heard so much about the WHITE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VOTE before in all my years of voting and that would be since 1978


13 posted on 05/14/2008 9:10:50 PM PDT by proudCArepublican
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rather than tell us we should vote for Obama because he is black, why not tell us what he will do for America?


14 posted on 05/14/2008 9:12:29 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: proudCArepublican
The white vote only gets counted when there is an ‘African American’ running. If he were Hispanic. No comprende?
15 posted on 05/14/2008 9:17:28 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Kleebo151

“Newsweek recently accused the GOP of scaring voters since the 60’s.”

The GOP doesn’t have to scare voters. The Democrats do that for them.


16 posted on 05/14/2008 9:17:58 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: digger48
Hillary’s Helter Skelter may yet come to fruition.

Will you won't you make me the nominee

I'm going down fast but you know its my destiny

Tell me tell me tell me you'll turn the tables

Well I may be a witch but I'm far more electable

Helter Skelter.......

17 posted on 05/14/2008 9:19:16 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Asked on his deathbed why he was reading the bible, WC Fields replied "I'm looking for loopholes.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At this point in time is there anything that
Obama could do to draw the ire of MSM? Think
of the long list of offenses that is Obama. Nothing has stuck yet. Why?
18 posted on 05/14/2008 9:28:10 PM PDT by topfile
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To: river rat

The media covered for the clintons for nearly 20 years.

Now they are willing to stab her in the back and throw her under the bus. The same emdia that covered for the Clintons is now covering for Obama.

Just as the Stalinists did for 40 years. Socialists lie. Always.


19 posted on 05/14/2008 9:38:04 PM PDT by weegee (Vote NO on Marxism in 2008.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I must admit, NOBODY spins a good yarn better than a leftist!

Elegantly Lincolnesque in a long wool coat,

echoes of history were almost deafening

[Obama] radiated uplift and glorious possibility

20 posted on 05/14/2008 9:41:41 PM PDT by parisa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; river rat; DoughtyOne; potlatch; devolve; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Jeff Head; ...

21 posted on 05/14/2008 9:56:36 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boy, what a suck up.


22 posted on 05/14/2008 10:10:09 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

23 posted on 05/14/2008 10:20:20 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"You are a crazy country," Tutu, 76, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1984, said in an interview with the Tribune. "You're a country that has I think some of the most generous people I've ever come across in the world." But he chided Americans for getting "very, very upset" with the pastor of Sen. Barack Obama, noting that Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. "may have said more crudely what, actually, almost every African-American would have wanted to say. "
24 posted on 05/14/2008 10:21:02 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have come to the conclusion that the Democrat Illuminati have settled on Obama because he kills two birds with one stone. On the one hand, his nomination will enable the white males who run the Democrat Party to say that they have shown their dedication to the struggle for equality, which will then enable them to promote white male Presidential candidates from 2012 ‘til Kingdom Come. On the other hand, I believe that it is essential to their future success that a Republican (especially a pliable Republican like McCain) remain nominally “in charge” so that Democrats can avoid taking responsibility for not having solutions to any of the actual or perceived problems that confront us, especially the price of a gallon of gas.


25 posted on 05/14/2008 11:17:46 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama wouldn’t deserve to hold a door open for Lincoln.


26 posted on 05/14/2008 11:42:57 PM PDT by eclecticEel (You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.)
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To: river rat

It’s ironic that now, 16 years too late, the left is finally seeing the Clintons for who they really are; I wonder how long it will be till they realize the same of Obama?


27 posted on 05/14/2008 11:46:10 PM PDT by eclecticEel (You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.)
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To: potlatch

28 posted on 05/15/2008 12:51:02 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“elegantly Lincolnesque in a long wool coat, launching his presidential candidacy in the shadow of the old Illinois State Capitol.”

Did Obama wear a stovepipe hat? Under the definition of Lincolnesque, he must wear a stovepipe hat at all times. Sheesh! What idolatrous drivel.


29 posted on 05/15/2008 3:04:38 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: eclecticEel
"I wonder how long it will be till they realize the same of Obama?"

Too long......Too Late.......The damage will have been done.

30 posted on 05/15/2008 9:13:29 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: PhilDragoo

The Lyin’ King-—heheh-—good one.


31 posted on 05/15/2008 9:23:51 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Jeff Chandler; devolve

LOL, you ‘win’ for ugliest graphic!!


32 posted on 05/15/2008 5:36:49 PM PDT by potlatch
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