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The fear of white decline
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 19, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 05/23/2008 8:46:19 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: CaspersGh0sts

We’ve already destroyed our oneness.

What the hell is oneness? Do you mean the oneness that the European explorers decided to share with the native peoples of this great land. Or the oneness that the Europeans who trafficked African slaves to this country decided to share with them?


21 posted on 05/23/2008 10:34:39 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Sexy Conservative!!!)
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To: Lorianne

Tell me about the day when Argentinians and Mexicans and Bolivians and Puerto Ricans all consider themselves equal.


22 posted on 05/23/2008 10:48:05 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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To: Lorianne

The last thing America needs is Balkanization along ethnic/racial lines. We conservatives need to make sure that America is divided along philosophical lines, and to that end, we need to pound home how the socialist ideals of the Democrats are just a cover for the plantation ideals of the elitists, “We know what’s best for you”.


23 posted on 05/23/2008 11:35:30 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
See my tag line. In my opinion, the most important words of the Constituion!

...to ourselves and our Posterity...
24 posted on 05/24/2008 12:10:32 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: brwnsuga

What in the world are you talking about in regards to the European explorers and the African slaves?


25 posted on 05/24/2008 12:12:59 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: brwnsuga

“What the hell is oneness? Do you mean the oneness that the European explorers decided to share with the native peoples of this great land. Or the oneness that the Europeans who trafficked African slaves to this country decided to share with them?”

That you have to even make such assinine questions is ridiculous. Venture back to a post-WWII America and get back to me.


26 posted on 05/24/2008 12:42:22 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Catmom

Bullseye!


27 posted on 05/24/2008 4:16:53 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: brwnsuga

brwnsuga ~ it appears you should be posting on huffington....

after all....you obvioulsy support the illegal hordes invading and destroying the US like locusts in the fields and support b. HUSSEIN ~ the closet muzzie running as a Christian lib/dem trying to gain total access over US policies!!!!


28 posted on 05/24/2008 4:47:52 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: Catmom

“What we have most to fear is not white decline but a failure by new immigrants to assimilate.”

I’d say what we have to fear is the decline of the values that made successful nations successful. And, for the past 500 years of history, the successful nations have overwhelmingly been those with cultural roots in Europe, and the people happen to be white.

We don’t have to debate at all which nations have been overwhelmingly successful. We only have to note the direction of the movement of people, legal and illegal.

Culture and values matter. Zimbabwe is one of the prime examples, much celebrated as the British influence was forced out and replaced by different ways of doing things. South Africa and parts of the US and Europe are places to watch.

Assimilation is an old idea that doesn’t really apply when such large numbers of newcomers from other cultures are allowed to enter legally and illegally. What we see now are mini enclaves of most any culture with large enough numbers to create a Little ______.


29 posted on 05/24/2008 4:57:25 AM PDT by Will88
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To: dennisw; thulldud

I don’t think 99.99%, more like 80% are ethnic Han. You’re right — they are chauvanistic and many of the other groups in CHina have been assimilated — like the Manchu, Jurgen, Mongols, Tai, Tibetans, Sichuanese, etc.


30 posted on 05/24/2008 5:08:55 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Lorianne

Whites can maintain a majority but if the majority of the Whites are of the Clinton/Pelosi/Kennedy/
Hollywood mindset we’re still screwed.


31 posted on 05/24/2008 5:39:29 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Will88

“Will those from failed cultures begin to unwittingly drag down the culture of the USA, in the name of ethnic pride, down to the level of what was left behind?”

Very likely, and history tells us this will be so.

Between 1890 and 1920 the US imported 20 million immigrants from eastern Europe. Many were the proto-Marxists of their day. (The newspapers referred to this group as the “red flag wavers.”}

They gave us the income tax, direct election of senators, women’s sufferage, militant unions, the rise of the bureaucratic dictatorship and the destruction of many outstanding capitalist ventures, such as Calumet & Hecla Mining Co.

Importing 60 million new socialists, communists and welfare bums will not help this republic a bit.


32 posted on 05/24/2008 5:54:02 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Governments hate armed citizens more than armed criminals)
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To: Will88
The bigger question is, will all the new arrivals turn American into what they left behind? It has been impossible that many cultures would ever have produced political and economic systems that would have brought freedom and opportunity to most of their members. Will those from failed cultures begin to unwittingly drag down the culture of the USA, in the name of ethnic pride, down to the level of what was left behind?

One hundred years ago we had no welfare programs and we got the ambitious who came here for the opportunities to succeed. Now we get people who come here for the welfare benefits. People on welfare can afford to have lots of kids, while the middle class can't afford kids because tey're paying taxes to support a bunch of parasites

The only solution is to abolish welfare. If the underclass women had to support their own kids by working McDonalds, they would get themselves sterilized.

33 posted on 05/24/2008 5:55:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
The Bureau of the Census projects that by 2050 non-Hispanic whites will be 50% of the population, down from the 89% they were in 1965. Hispanics will be 25%. The Pew Research center estimates that by 2050, non-Hispanic whites will be 47% of the population and Hispancs of all colors will be 29%.

This huge demographic shift is primarily due to immigration, legal and illegal.

34 posted on 05/24/2008 5:59:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: brwnsuga
What the hell is oneness? Do you mean the oneness that the European explorers decided to share with the native peoples of this great land. Or the oneness that the Europeans who trafficked African slaves to this country decided to share with them?

Those same "Europeans" gave us the world's oldest democracy whose contributions to mankind across a broad spectrum of areas have made this world a better place to live. America is more than just a country, it is an idea that has universal appeal. The fact that millions of people around the globe are trying to enter this country any way they can speaks volumes about our "oneness."

35 posted on 05/24/2008 7:28:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; ApesForEvolution; archy; backhoe; Badray; t_skoz; Becki; ...
We’re looking at the balkanization of America, there will be areas carved out by culture, color and language and there will be continual bloody fighting between the groups.

Yes. And the sooner we start choosing some areas for our autonomous area the better. It's ain't gonna be Los Angeles!! Here are some suggestions and organizations.

(Note: none of these are racial organizations. All are interested only in preserving the traditional freedom we Americans have enjoyed and doing away with the egregious octopus government that is strangling us.)

Face it we are hopelessly out numbered by state power loving freaks in most places. Either we gather together to amplify our power, or we see the never-ending march of Socialism across the entire American landscape. Yes, we have to give up some territory.

Whether or not this will be peaceful or not we don't know. Your comment suggests it may not which also obligates me to summon the CW2 ping list.

Here are the links:

Wyoming

New Hampshire has its supporters.

Western Alliance for Liberty is looking at Wyoming, Montana and Idaho.

State of Jefferson would like to carve out Northern California and Southern Oregon

36 posted on 05/24/2008 9:02:13 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: sergeantdave

Nice post. Don’t expect your clarity to be fully appreciated though.


37 posted on 05/24/2008 9:07:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (Obama is for the Deliverance Was A Documentary crowd)
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To: Jack Black; archy; Travis McGee

Col. Ulius Louis Amoss’s concept of “Leaderless Resistance” is valued in my circle yet has been sadly taken over by supremacist groups of all colors as their own charter. It is still something that is a book shelf asset to study as is Sun Tzu etc ......

Stay Safe JB I am off too the gun show in the big city today !


38 posted on 05/24/2008 9:10:38 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: sergeantdave; wardaddy; hiredhand; Gilbo_3; Travis McGee; Lurker

BTTT Ping


39 posted on 05/24/2008 9:13:11 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee; wardaddy

Sometimes I wonder how many other young couples are waiting too long to have children because they ‘cannot afford it’ :(
A poor man’s riches are his children though. Every time I go to visit my mom in NY, ther are more and more people moving in, more and more kids and I can totally see the white and black birth rates taking the great plunge together in the big cities. OTOH, the young white girls where I are have their kids young and lots at a time, three at a time. I hate to say this but it’s so strange to see large white families then go to New York and see one or two kids. So there’s my race/ethnic commentary for the weekend!


40 posted on 05/24/2008 9:13:53 AM PDT by cyborg (Living Strong every day since March 12, 2008)
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