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Gun Control Groups Planning to Switch Tactics
Ohioans For Concealed Carry ^ | 13 June 2008 | Daniel White

Posted on 06/14/2008 8:44:36 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: headstamp 2

no, assault weapon is a BS name made up to confuse and is semi-auto only. assault rifle is a select fire weapon chambering an intermediate cartridge.


21 posted on 06/15/2008 9:33:04 AM PDT by henry_reardon
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To: weegee
No high sherriffs with their own personal militaries

I trust my local sheriff more than the ATF any day, because I (and other voters) elect him.

I have diddley squat to say about who works at the BATFE.

YMMV

22 posted on 06/15/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: coloradan
It's the same old same old from the gun grabbers. "Oh, we're not trying to restrict any rights, just enact some reasonable, modest, gun safety measures." Liars all.

My thoughts too.

23 posted on 06/15/2008 11:21:34 AM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: neverdem

“Brady Campaign Attorney Dennis Henigan said there are multiple gun control measures that would not run afoul of a Supreme Court decision striking down the D.C. gun ban. “

“Universal background checks don’t affect the right of self-defense in the home. Banning a super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons, also would not adversely affect the right of self-defense in the home,” said Henigan. “Curbing large volume sales doesn’t affect self-defense in the home.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5055064&page=1

Let us not forget the alternatives to gun control. Such as ammunition control (being tried right now), make everybody a felon control (well on the way), ammo-tax control, etc.

What is obvious is these anti-American jerks will not stop their quest for “what is best for all us peons” even if the Supreme Court of the United States clearly states beyond any shadow of any doubt that it is an individual right.


24 posted on 06/15/2008 11:32:32 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: SkyPilot
I'll take the M-1 Carbine with the paratrooper stock, please. Do you have extra magazines for that?
25 posted on 06/15/2008 2:49:38 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: TLI
What is obvious is these anti-American jerks will not stop their quest for “what is best for all us peons” even if the Supreme Court of the United States clearly states beyond any shadow of any doubt that it is an individual right.

When the homosexual cabal lost the James Dale case in the Supreme Court, which affirmed the right of the Boy Scouts of America to exclude homosexual Scouts and Scouters (adult leaders), the gays went right to work attacking the BSA through its funding (United Way) and use of community facilities, especially including community facilities built or improved over the years by the BSA themselves. The basis of their attack was that the BSA, despite 80-90 years of public experience to the contrary and massive public goodwill, is an exclusionary hate group and didn't deserve public or eleemosynary support. Unlike them, of course, who were actually carrying on a "rule or ruin" hate campaign.

They are actually making quite a bit of ground in this campaign of objective vilification and abuse. Which tells you something about how they operate, who they're operating on, and the condition of values and personal judgment in this country, when a fringe group of sexual deviants can publicly attack a monumental pillar of society like the BSA.

The homosexual campaign is vicious, small, nasty, mean, and thoroughly demonstrative of the reasons the BSA excluded them from participation in the first place.

26 posted on 06/15/2008 3:09:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: whatshotandwhatsnot
Banning guns is NOT the answer to crime.

Crime is totally beside the point. It's all about ideology.

Socialist, statist ideology does not permit private individuals to possess means of resistance to the government. Period.

That's what it's all about.

"You will comply. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."

27 posted on 06/15/2008 3:12:59 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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28 posted on 06/15/2008 3:49:56 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 06/15/2008 9:21:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Enemy action ping.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

30 posted on 06/16/2008 6:23:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Yorlik803
McCain isnt the best, but after you vote for him, a person can take a nice hot shower to wash the crud off.

Yeah, I'm slowly coming home. I used to be one of those hard core folks who declared I'd rather put the OBAMANATION into the White House before I'd vote for RINO McCain. I now have three Army Veteran for McCain stickers on my car and I'm resigned to vote for him, as will my spouse. And yes, we'll probably shower off the McSLIME later just so long as it's not a RAT in the Oval Office! I don't think this country will even exist if the Dems take control this time. That's easy to say -- (vote your conscience stuff) but difficult to do in the execution when you start contemplating the world inaction will foist on our children and grandchildren.

31 posted on 06/16/2008 6:42:20 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem
Even if the SC completely affirms the right to bear arms, I look for some of the following bills under an Obama Presidency:

-Ban on importing all surplus military ammo (too affordable, and "for killing").
-Ban on importing all parts for "assault weapons".
-Ban on .50 cal rifles.
-Ban on "unusually destructive" hollowpoint or "armor piercing" ammo.
-Massive tax levies on ammo to fund "medical costs to cities".
-More schemes to require registration and licensing, and to prevent private sales and inheritances.
-More schemes to classify more and more people as somehow unfit to have their rights.
-Endless false statistics and propaganda about rising gun deaths and "assault weapon" attacks.

It's going to be an interesting four years for the Tree of Liberty.

32 posted on 06/16/2008 7:00:18 AM PDT by Sender (Never lose your ignorance; you can never regain it!)
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To: Joe Brower

You all know where this is going. As President, Obama will rule by fiat (executive order), and with republicans who dribble pee down their legs every time Pelosi or Reid raises their voice, a compliant media and a vengeful Left, there will be absolutely no resistance.

So - look for a repeat of the ‘enabling acts’ that allowed another dictator to clinch his hold on power back in 1932. Evil times are upon us.


33 posted on 06/16/2008 7:02:47 AM PDT by Noumenon (Time for Atlas to shrug - and pick up a gun.)
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To: ExSoldier
"I now have three Army Veteran for McCain stickers on my car and I'm resigned to vote for him"

Okay, I may vote for him depending on who his VP choice is, but I will never, ever be putting a bumper sticker of his on my car or any other paraphanalia!!
34 posted on 06/16/2008 7:56:31 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Noumenon
Well, it's not over until it's over; it's a long ways to November, although even a McCain presidency will be trying times. "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst", as always.

As for the GOP, yes, I can't find it credible to entrust them with the preservation of anything, when their political cowardice, combined with their own collectivist tendencies, are what caused them to squander so much of the political capital they once had.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

35 posted on 06/16/2008 8:13:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower

Be Ever Vigilant!!


36 posted on 06/16/2008 8:40:49 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Joe Brower; All
BTTT

An Illustrated Guide to Obama’s Gun-Grabbing

37 posted on 06/16/2008 9:37:51 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: weegee
Where does the Constitution say that the police forces of America should be armed with assault weapons either? If the higher firepower is needed, bring in the ATF or National Guard.

Where does the Constitution authorize the ATF?

38 posted on 06/16/2008 11:19:12 AM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I will never, ever be putting a bumper sticker of his on my car or any other paraphanalia!!

That's your choice, but I find that my bumper stickers have helped me out in a variety of ways: I usually have a "veterans for" (insert candidate here) on my side rear mini van windows and it's gotten me into heavy traffic patterns. I think it's my vet sticker because my city (MIAMI, FL) is renowned nation wide as having the rudest drivers in the country! Then there have been numerous bad guy type events averted when folks have gotten a gander at my NRA Instructor stickers and my IDPA sticker. Yes I know such forewarning may well prove fatal for me if the perp in question sees the stickers and just decides to pop me with no warning right in the head but I feel that if I'm in a proper Condition Yellow mindset that is going to be a risky and problematic proposition for HIM or THEM. It's worked out that way in the past. You can go "sterile" if you like but my bumper stickers are a part of me.

39 posted on 06/16/2008 1:47:15 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem
Acknowledging that public opinion is against them and that a loss in the Supreme Court of the United States is likely eminent,

I hope it is, but two recent 5-4 decisions, with Kennedy the swing vote and author of each, makes me wonder about that. The first one involved according rights to illegal combatants captured on the battlefield, in spite of centuries of precedent to the contrary, with no intervening change in the Constitution to justify a change in case law. The second involved an illegal alien who overstayed his visa, being granted the right to stay in the country, in spite of other transgressions against the immigration laws, and with no question that he'd had his "due process" hearing. He'd even signed a voluntary agreement to leave! (He is Nigerian, not that that matters)

"I have a very bad feeling about this"

40 posted on 06/16/2008 3:40:08 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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