Gun Control Groups Planning to Switch Tactics

Ohioans For Concealed Carry ^ | 13 June 2008 | Daniel White

[neverdem]

Acknowledging that public opinion is against them and that a loss in the Supreme Court of the United States is likely eminent, gun control groups are regrouping and preparing to try new tactics to accomplish their unpopular goals.

"We've lost the battle on what the Second Amendment means," campaign president Paul Helmke told ABC News. "Seventy-five percent of the public thinks it's an individual right. Why are we arguing a theory anymore? We are concerned about what we can do practically." He later went on to say, "We're expecting D.C. to lose the case, but this could be good from the standpoint of the political-legislative side."

The bears as a somber reminder to gun owners that with every victory comes a new battle. Now that banning firearms seems to be, for now anyway, a lost cause, gun control groups plan to work instead on restricting ownership through other means.

"Universal background checks don't affect the right of self-defense in the home. Banning a super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons, also would not adversely affect the right of self-defense in the home," said Brady Campaign Attorney Dennis Henigan. "Curbing large volume sales doesn't affect self-defense in the home."

While some pro-gun advocates fear this may lead to a push to confine guns and self-defense only to the home, others believe this points to a new trend of redefining entire classes of firearms as "assault weapons." This could lead to new restrictions eventually culminating in only single shot shotguns as the only remaining legal firearms using the logic that since the bans are not total bans, they are still constitutional.

Another possible tactic is to try to claim that the D.C. v. Heller case only applies to the District of Columbia as a federal enclave, and that states are free to enact their own restrictions.

They are also holding out hope for support from the presidency next year. Democrat Barack Obama has a history of favoring gun control schemes and is their candidate of choice. However, they are clinging to Republican John McCain's past support for closing the (non-existent) "the gun-show loophole" as a sign that he may be receptive to their goals.

Regardless of the tactics used, we must never rest in our vigilance in protecting the jewel of liberty that is the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Fortunately, it would appear that 75% of Americans are on our side.

 

[max americana]

Acknowledging that public opinion is against them and that a loss in the Supreme Court of the United States is likely eminent, gun control groups are regrouping and preparing to try new tactics to accomplish their unpopular goals.
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As long as the libs can read the ink on the 2nd am on the BOR, it will never end.

[M203M4]

They are also holding out hope for support from the presidency next year. Democrat Barack Obama has a history of favoring gun control schemes and is their candidate of choice. However, they are clinging to Republican John McCain's past support for closing the (non-existent) "the gun-show loophole" as a sign that he may be receptive to their goals.

They are biding their time until the next administration, which will necessarily be somewhat 2A-averse.

[Republic_of_Secession.]

The frustration that Paul Helmke expresses over the fact that most Americans understand their right is indicative that his propaganda has not worked. Helmke: it IS an individual right.

[sourcery]

Helmke: it IS an individual right.

That follows inexorably and undeniably from the following fact: You have the right to do absolutely anything that does not violate the rights of others. That's what the right to Liberty means, by definition, and as recognized by the Fifth Ammendment.

[Travis McGee]

RKBA ping.

[ApplegateRanch]

However, by gum, that pesky Second Amendment doesn’t say ANYTHING about a right to LOAD the arms you are bearing!

Nor about pulling the trigger!

They will never stop.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Coalition to Prevent Assault Weapon Violence.
http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link. The opinions in D.C. v. Heller should be revealing. Say a prayer. Interesting times are straight ahead.

[SkyPilot]

>While some pro-gun advocates fear this may lead to a push to confine guns and self-defense only to the home, others believe this points to a new trend of redefining entire classes of firearms as "assault weapons."

I am so tired of the ignorance of the American public.

An assault weapon, by definition, is capable of semi-automatic and/or automatic fire.

Assault weapon

People this stupid don't deserve freedom.

[snowsislander]

"... Why are we arguing a theory anymore? ..."

The anti-gun left concocted this poppycock that the Second Amendment is some sort of attenuated "collective right" in order to try to destroy the meaning of the Second Amendment. Now that this absurdity appears to no longer be useful, they will happily consign it to the dust of the history books.

Lies and misrepresentation are all they have, and when a lie is no longer convenient, it is abandoned.

[668 - Neighbor of the Beast]

I give 2A rights another two decades at most. If the SCOTUS doesn't mess it up (and that's a big IF), their decision will define the rights more sharply, and leave in its wake a lot of restrictions, provisos, and malignant howevers. These will be converted into new gun control demands and eventually into new laws.

Fortunately, it would appear that 75% of Americans are on our side.

Yes, and I'm sure 75% are against abortion on demand, euthanasia, homosexual marriage, the removal of Christian symbols from every last square inch of public property, welfare and free tuition for illegal aliens, nukes for Iran...et cetera. But these things are just around the corner.

It doesn't matter what 75% of the sheeple want.

[whatshotandwhatsnot]

I don’t believe that 75% bulldung statistic, not for a minute. WTH are these people thinking? Banning guns is NOT the answer to crime. Look at the UK. They’re in the midst of a knifing epidemic. Will they ban knives? This just drives me nuts!

My individual rights are spelled out clearly in the 2nd and I intend to fight any attempt to curtail them.

[coloradan]

"Universal background checks don't affect the right of self-defense in the home.

Lie. Tell that to the woman who was delayed, and was murdered during the delay.

Banning a super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons, also would not adversely affect the right of self-defense in the home," said Brady Campaign Attorney Dennis Henigan.

Lie. Anyone who is made a criminal because of possession of a certain gun has had his rights affected. And by the way, the right to self-defense extends beyond the home. Oddly, when the JBTs go through people's home on a no-knock, what do they choose to use for maximum protection of themselves? Sawed off, fully automatic, high-capacity assault rifles. If it's good enough for our "protectors" it's good enough for us.

"Curbing large volume sales doesn't affect self-defense in the home."

Depending on what a "large volume sale" is, this too might be a lie. 2?

It's the same old same old from the gun grabbers. "Oh, we're not trying to restrict any rights, just enact some reasonable, modest, gun safety measures." Liars all.

[weegee]

Where does the Constitution say that the police forces of America should be armed with assault weapons either?

If the higher firepower is needed, bring in the ATF or National Guard.

No high sherriffs with their own personal militaries.

[weegee]

"... Why are we arguing a theory anymore? ..."

This is the naked sum total of POLICITAL CORRECTNESS.

Just as with Al Gore Junior's Global Warming Scare campaign (an abuse of government that far exceeds ANY overreach by Sen. Joseph McCarthy), there is no tolerance for debate or dissent.

The liberal (socialist) agenda will NOT permit opposition.

Such talk is criminalized and cast out from the public arena and institutions of learning.

Thoughtcrime. "why are we still talking about it" "flat earthers..." etc.

[B4Ranch]

Bookmark these maps because they show where the majority of violent homicides in the US are originating from.

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These maps are from the article titled "Anti-gun Promo Blackfires"

I think perhaps it should have been entitled, "The African Americans are slaughtering each other in our US Cities"

Baltimore, PROPER, which is reflected on the map has 64.34% Black or African American, 31.63% White.

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This Baltimore Sun map shows a terrible problem, but does not clarify who the murderers are.

Baltimore Sun map of PEOPLE murdered, 2007:

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Baltimore Sun map of BLACKS murdered, 2007: (264)

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Baltimore Sun map of WHITES murdered, 2007: (12)

Of the 12, 6 were killed *downtown* probably while buying drugs. _______________________________________________________________

That's right a small percentage of people, generally gangs and drug dealers, in our large cities are causing the majority of the gun related homicides in the US. Do not allow this data to be covered up or hidden. Do not allow the gun control nutcases to take away your self defense weapons.

SOURCE: http://essentials.baltimoresun.com/micro_sun/homicides/
Baltimore, PROPER, Population 651,154
Baltimore, greater metropolitan area, Population 5.1 Million

[TribalPrincess2U]

Geesh, they’re like bacteria. We need more antibiotics.
It’s a constant struggle to keep our freedoms.

[Yorlik803]

Well....tell that to all those Republicans who are thinking about voting for Obama or a third party canidate.
An Obama in the White house means a new America, and not a better America.
McCain isnt the best, but after you vote for him, a person can take a nice hot shower to wash the crud off.

[headstamp 2]

“An assault weapon, by definition, is capable of semi-automatic and/or automatic fire.”

The “or” implies a semi-automatic weapon is an assault weapon which it is not.

An assault weapon, by definition, is capable of sustained or short-burst automatic fire as the main function with Semi-auto fire as a secondary, optional, function.