Right up there with the bloodbath at Waco IMNSHO.
Posted on 06/15/2008 11:58:44 AM PDT by Glenn
HAVANA, Cuba (AP) -- The Cuban boy at the center of an international custody battle eight years ago has joined Cuba's Young Communist Union.
Elian Gonzalez said he will never let down ex-President Fidel Castro and his brother Raul Castro, according to the Communist youth newspaper Juventud Rebelde.
Raul Castro succeeded Fidel as president earlier this year.
Now 14, Elian was 6 when his relatives in Miami, Florida, lost their fight to keep him in the United States and he was returned to Cuba in mid-2000 with his father.
Elian had survived a boating accident off the Florida coast that killed his mother, who was attempting to get to the U.S.
Juventud Rebelde says in its Sunday edition that the boy was among 18,000 people who joined the group Saturday.
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after what he experienced in Reno’s South Florida, I can’t blame his adolescence for hating it.
Just goes to show that if you get ‘em while they’re young....poor kid. Years later and I still can’t believe they sent him back.
As one of the Cuban elites little Elian probably has a cell phone and computer too ...while the rest of the Cuban people are living in third world conditions.
Like the poor kid had a choice on whether to join or not to join.
Communists still objective to brainwash youth.
It’s not coincidental the youth vote for NObomba. Whatever it takes to fool the young and naive who’ve yet to have a real job and pay taxes, yet still get to vote.
What a failure of the Clintons
Nice going Ms. Reno....send this kid back to Cuba so he can be brainwashed and grow up hating America....
However sad the story, illegal = illegal.
This is a mandatory membership, it’s not voluntary. There is absolutely no alternative, they all have to join (was standard practice in former Eastern European countries).
Apparently she wanted him to grow up just like her.
Right up there with the bloodbath at Waco IMNSHO.
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IIRC, he reached US soil and wa eligible to stay here because of the ‘dry foot’ exception for Cubans. It was his father, as Elian’s sole surviving parent, being sent by Fidel that created the problem and Reno caved in to that.
I wonder what happened to that American Storm Trooper who blasted his way into Elian’s bedroom, gun pointed and then slithered away into the night. I hope he hasnt had a peaceful day since.
“Elian Gonzalez said he will never let down ex-President Fidel Castro and his brother Raul Castro, according to the Communist youth newspaper Juventud Rebelde.”
Janet Reno’s legacy.
Make it small enough so that it fits on your screen.
His father and family are getting big perks. I put no stock in what he says now or ever.
Argh! Should be removed!
Thank you, you mango tree lawyer, Greg Craig.
Your two little crooked friends in the Republic of Panama are waiting to win their case too: Crooked ex president Ernesto Perez Valladares wants his U.S. visa back which was lifted for exporting illegal Chinese to the U.S.
You are charging him $2,000,000 for that. He can afford it. He stole the country blind like all other politician in other country around the world do to include the U.S. of A.
Then there is Pedro Miguel González who murdered by gunfire a Puerto Rican U.S. soldier, Zak Hernandez, in 1992.
The question is where is Pedro Miguel González getting the millions to pay your mango tree fees?
The reality is, this mango tree lawyer is thick as thieves with BO. Should BO become president, both Perez Valladares and Gonzalez will get an U.S. presidential pardon.
I would give great weight to that scenario. He's a living propaganda piece -- another tool in the hands of a dictator. He'll wake up someday.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he “went into politics” as he is a national hero. Of course, Cuba will be very different once Fidel is gone which appears imminent.
I wonder if there is any inside information about the true nature of Elian's situation coming out of Cuba? I'm going on a Google hunt. . . be back.
Whatever law enforcement is, this wasn't it.
BTW whatever happened to the FR send Elian back crowd's ( there were some ) claim that doing such would help other Americans involved in international custody cases at that time? Didn't help them one bit. That crowd got awful quiet later as they hoped nobody would remember.
When the mother died, the father is in charge. Parental rights are human rights neither you nor Castro have the right to interfere. Don't you hate it that nobody asked you to vote on the kid's status.
If Castro has no right to the kid, what makes you think you do?
Where were you when this happened ? Because you apparently weren’t there at the time with your woeful ignorance of the situation.
Firstly, what part of “there are NO parental rights in Cuba” do you not grasp ? Children are SLAVES, property, chattel, of the state. Parents have NO say in their children’s lives. Children are TAKEN from the parents to be politically indoctrinated, as Elian has been. You got it ? You have some very peculiar notion that they were all going to be reunited and live happily ever after. That ain’t how it works in Cuba, the Socialist liberal paradise.
The father was ORDERED to retrieve the child for Fidel’s vanity and failure to comply would’ve meant his immediate family would’ve never been heard from again. I remember well their rehearsed Stepford-wife like responses from the “family” wanting the child back on the gulag. It was appalling.
The mother DIED getting her child away from that gulag. She died. Her wishes and actions said it all. You spit in her face denying the ultimate sacrificial act in getting her child to freedom that she made.
For a father to knowingly participate in a conspiracy to bring a child back to such a horrible place was nothing short of evil. He should’ve told Fidel to go to hell.
Oh, and btw, FRiend, Elian was denied due process in our country ahead of a likely judicial ruling approving his stay (Elian WAS here legally and he had a loving family in Florida caring for him, a cousin he was bonding with as a surrogate mother — and ripped away from them at gunpoint in a Gestapo/stormtrooper raid Hitler would’ve approved of). Clinton/Reno weren’t going to wait on something as “trivial” as a judge knowing right from wrong and was following Fidel’s orders. The orders from a psychotic despot whom has enslaved millions and killed untold tens of thousands (if not hundreds) all to get a child that caused him personal embarrassment. Sick, twisted, and evil.
Truth’s a bitch, ain’t it ?
Thank you.
What are you talking about illegal? For your information Cuban's are not illegals. You need to get informed
Washing up on the shore is an acceptable immigration practice?
You need to get informed
You need to get real.
Every piece of garbage that washes ashore is not a treasure.
It seems as if Elian has a special talent for swimming. He won for his school the 25-meter swimming contest in 2007. He receives good grades and that he is the leader of his student collective at the ‘Esteban Hernandez’ junior high, where he is in the ninth grade.
Elian’s father, Juan Miguel Gonzalez, is now a member of the national assembly, the island’s congress that selected Raul Castro as president after his ailing older brother Fidel Castro resigned in February. Being a member of the Communist elite, Juan Miquel enjoys special treatment as we can guess by what information one could get.
You’re welcome. ;-)
It is shocking the level of ignorance on this issue in some quarters still after these many years. They don’t understand that parental (and indeed, individual) rights have a different meaning in a totalitarian regime. “Rights” do not exist.
How would you suggest people fleeing a slave gulag should arrive ? On the f*cking Love Boat ?
It was a shameful episode and the MSM played their part to maintain and foster that ignorance. My, what theater it was the father’s trip and performance under the gun.
You're making a case for no kids in communist countries. Where were you? Why aren't you down in Mexico Cioty stopping all children from getting on the flights to Havana. I guess your morality only extends to kids you can easilly get your hands on.
My peculiar notion is that a kid goes to the surviving parent. Sorry you had to be taught that by a communist, but you should have known that all along. Basic parenting right and responsibility.
Your nanny state attitude would separate the kid and the parent. What the hell is wrong with you?
You're right; the truth is a bitch. A cold one at that.
his mother died trying to get Elian to freedom in the USA; that left the father, under Castro, to decide Elian should be a good Communist .. with a little help from Janet Reno.
Just saw your 35. Let’s see. Castro won’t give parent’s rights, so we have the right to deny the rights by taking the kid away from the father. You don’t see the idiocy of your position? What makes you any better than Castro?
It was the father’s right and responsibility to have the kid. Are you saying all kids should be forcebly removed from their Cuban parents? Or just the ones we can get our hands on?
Given your bizarre and ludicrous statements, madam, you’re obviously a troll and a damnable idiot.
Given your personal abusive attacks upon me, I must have struck a nerve pointing out your immoral position. How long do I have to be here to call you names and get away with it?
I close your case. Again!
Doesn’t matter to the troller from DU. They don’t get there’s only one father in Cuba, and his name is Fidel. BTW, the idiot also doesn’t remember the OFFER to the birth father political asylum to stay with Elian and he wouldn’t take it. He was a brainwashed puppet. The mother wasn’t. May God bless her, and may God damn Clinton and Reno for their act of evil in kicking a dead mother and her ultimate act of sacrifice right in the face.
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I reiterate to you, troll, you are an ignorant idiot. You know NOTHING about this matter even after the facts have been drilled into your head. You sound like a paid Fidel agent to spew forth disinformation and lies on this board. As for immoral, your position is the walking embodiment of it. Shame on you.
If you call someone names and heap personal abuse upon them, shouldn’t you have the courage to ping them in reply?
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• The African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church
• Alliance of Baptists
• American Baptist Churches in the USA
• Diocese of the Armenian Church of America
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