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Pastors Challenge Law, Endorse Candidates From Pulpit
ABC News ^ | 6/20/08 | RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:09:07 AM PDT by XR7

Few Americans would invite an investigation by the Internal Revenue Service, but that's exactly what Minnesota pastor Gus Booth wanted when he stood behind his pulpit and told his congregation God wanted them to vote Republican.

In an election where candidates openly discuss their faith and are regularly seen in churches, and a time when pastors' sermons lead the politics sections of newspapers, one might be excused for not knowing that it is illegal for a church to endorse or oppose a candidate for president.

But when Booth addressed the members of his Warroad Community Church one Sunday in May and told them, "If you are a Christian, you cannot support a candidate like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton for president," he very much knew he was violating the law. He even wrote a letter to the IRS explaining what he had said and challenging the tax collection agency to do something about it.

Churches and other non-profit groups like charities and universities do not have to pay taxes. That exemption, however, comes with a price. Churches, and by extension the pastors who serve them in an official capacity, are not allowed to endorse or oppose political candidates.

Booth, 34, is one of several religious leaders who this year hope to challenge federal law by flouting the regulations about endorsing candidates from the pulpit, a move that could potentially cost them their tax-exempt status, creating financial ruin for many congregations.

The separation of church and state may be one of our democracy's most vaunted values...

Booth and other religious leaders who want to challenge the government believe their rights to freedom of speech and religion, enshrined in the First Amendment, permit them to say whatever they want, wherever they want. Those rights, they say, should trump a 54-year-old tax code...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; 501c3; christianvote; churchandstate; electionpresident; elections; firstamendment; govwatch; internalrevenue; irs; nobama08; pastor; politicking
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[H]e stood behind his pulpit and told his congregation God wanted them to vote Republican.

Anybody disagree with him?
So why register your church with the IRS and agree not to endorse candidates in the first place?

1 posted on 06/20/2008 8:09:08 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

Unfortunately it often happens the other way around - Democrats.

It is possible to avoid this entirely by citing scripture and saying that Christians need to vote for the pro life, pro family candidates. Then handout questionnaires/checklists of where everyone stands after the service.


2 posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:42 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The road to hell is paved with the stones of pragmatism.)
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To: XR7

....Sharpton and Jackson laughing their asses off right now


3 posted on 06/20/2008 8:13:01 AM PDT by lormand (Support your local and state Conservative representative in November (assuming you have one))
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To: lormand

Hey!!!!!!

I agree with you!!!

:-)


4 posted on 06/20/2008 8:17:04 AM PDT by fishtank (FIRST defeat Obama. ------------------ THEN resist McCain. ---------- A good plan.)
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Well, someone forgot to tell him that only democrats are allowed to flout this law with impunity -

the there's the WWJD thingy - He kept the two entities separated: "Render unto Caesar..." and

his action is akin to the folk who refuse to pay income tax and end up behind bars, with nada accomplished - and lastly -

I wonder if he first got his congregations approval to put the church in jeopardy of financial ruin?

Sometimes, whistling into the wind is just a futile act. Spitting into the wind is a foolish one.

..

5 posted on 06/20/2008 8:18:13 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: XR7

You suck at the master’s teat, you play by the master’s rules.


6 posted on 06/20/2008 8:21:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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"Render unto Caesar..."

They rendered their church unto Caesar when they voluntarily registered as a 501c3 corporation with the IRS.
The IRS giveth and the IRS taketh away.

7 posted on 06/20/2008 8:21:41 AM PDT by XR7
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Without going to the link, is there any mention of Democrats and “Black Churches” or Jessie, or Al or Jermemiah?


8 posted on 06/20/2008 8:22:44 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fishtank
"I agree with you!!!"

Bro, we probably agree on 98% of issues. We just disagree on your favorite talk show host, and maybe favorite flavor of Ice Cream (Chocolate).

9 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:38 AM PDT by lormand (Support your local and state Conservative representative in November (assuming you have one))
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To: maine-iac7
the there's the WWJD thingy - He kept the two entities separated: "Render unto Caesar..." and

One of the most mis-quoted scriptures in the bible.

Mostly used by preachers who want to discourage their congregants from getting involved in politics, usually left-leaning pastors.

The problem is that as a Christian, I am required to be responsible to Christ's edicts in all facets of my life and that includes politics.
10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:31:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: XR7

There are so many ways a pastor can talk politics as far as who and who not to vote for you just have to word it right. without ever mentioning a party by name just layout what a supposed good Christian should and should not stand for based on Biblical truths.


11 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: XR7

If I want an unsolicited worthless political opinion, I can always rely on the MSM. When I go to church, I would like to learn something about spiritual things that I do not already know. And what I do not know about spiritual things is infinite. When it comes to politics I know too much, I have to make a simple choice. Do I choose the Devil I do know or do I choose the Devil I don’t know.


12 posted on 06/20/2008 8:39:02 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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First of all, ‘separation of church and state’ appears no where in the U.S. Constitution; it’s a fabrication allegedly founded on the ‘establishment’ clause. Secondly, this IRS harassment will focus exclusively on white conservative institutions and completely ignore the goings on in churhes operated by the likes of Reverend Wright (that would be racist-Wright gets mentioned, finally, at page 3 of the above article). This selective persecution will get a ‘pass’ from the MSM, as did the Clintons use of the FBI to gather intelligence on political enemies and the selective use of IRS audits to intimidate conservative organizations like the Heritage Foundation. An Obama presidency, along with the full support of the alleged ‘watchdog’ media, will be the beginning of the end of civil liberties in America. As is is now on many college campuese, the key to survival will be KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND DO NOTHING TO REVEAL YOUR THOUGHTS.


13 posted on 06/20/2008 8:40:07 AM PDT by Spok (Liberty lives only in proportion to wholesome restraint.)
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To: XR7

The worst that can happen is the church will lose its tax-free status. Some would say, myself included, that this would be a good thing. Now the pastor is truly free to preach the whole Word of God without any government restrictions. He could back any candidate he wanted to and even name names. They may have to cut a program or two because of a tighter budget, though.


14 posted on 06/20/2008 8:41:38 AM PDT by bubbacluck
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I notice the article never mentions the pro-Obama statements made by the pastors of Obama's former church.

(I gag when I say former church because Obama only gave up his membership for political purposes, not because he disagrees with anything that was preached there.)

15 posted on 06/20/2008 8:43:19 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: TexasCajun

No.


16 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:07 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: XR7
Black pastors not only endorse candidates from the pulpit, they actually pass the hat in the candidate's presence and give the donations to those candidates (of course, so do the Buddists, i.e. AlGore.)

Other "non-profit, tax-exempt organizations as well have no problem with endorsing liberal candidates: NEA, Planned Parenthood, et al.

It is only when conservstive congregations and pastors come out favoring pro-life, pro-family, pro-faith messages from the bible, face IRS "investigations" (some might refer to them as "inquisitions") from the secular, leftist, hate-mongering "IRS".

And then only when "congressional or private citizens" report them and have the strong arm of the (in)Justice Department come after them.

17 posted on 06/20/2008 8:44:18 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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I’ve fought against leftist politics in my own church but I’ve backed off my earlier position of banning politics in the pulpit. My position is now that they can do as they please, but I reserve the right to debate, withhold funds, or just leave.


18 posted on 06/20/2008 8:47:11 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: XR7

This is clearly designed to create a test case. If the pastor has the approval of his board of deacons (or it’s equivalent), then more power to him.

It is constitutionally questionable that the United States restricts constitutional rights in order for a bona fide religious organization to be tax exempt.


19 posted on 06/20/2008 9:06:16 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (No Surrender, No Retreat!!! Only one candidate will win the war, and it's not Barack Obama!)
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To: XR7
You don't tug on superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old lone ranger
And you don't mess around with jim

--Jim Croce

20 posted on 06/20/2008 9:27:24 AM PDT by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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