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Veterans Rebut ‘Swift Boat’ Charges Against Kerry in Answer to Challenge
NY Times ^ | June 22, 2008 | KATE ZERNIKE

Posted on 06/22/2008 11:27:28 AM PDT by neverdem

For most people, “Swift boat” has become a political verb, a synonym for the kind of attack that helped destroy the presidential campaign of Senator John Kerry in 2004.

But for a group of Vietnam veterans at the center of the attacks, it is still a fresh fight.

On Friday, the group, who served with Mr. Kerry in Vietnam, sent a letter to T. Boone Pickens, the billionaire Texas oilman who helped finance the 2004 attack advertisements, taking him up on a challenge he issued last November: that he would give $1 million to anyone who could disprove a single charge the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth made against Mr. Kerry.

The letter-writers served alongside Mr. Kerry during the events that the Swift boat group insisted he had embellished or made up to win his military decorations.

Identifying themselves as “patriotic, concerned veterans” they say the accusations of the Swift boat group damaged their reputations and deeply affected their families, “tarnished the sacrifices we made, called into question the medals we were awarded and challenged the very authenticity of our service.”

The group is working with Mr. Kerry, who himself seized on the challenge soon after Mr. Pickens made it at an American Spectator dinner. In a letter, he offered to meet with Mr. Pickens to rebut the charges. Mr. Pickens wrote back to say that he was good for his money, but that Mr. Kerry would have to provide his military record, the journal he kept in Vietnam and movies and tapes made in his tours there.

Mr. Pickens also qualified his challenge, saying he meant that someone would have to prove false things in the group’s television advertisements — putting aside a best-selling book and extensive news media interviews that attracted the bulk of the attention. He challenged...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; kerry; nothingnew; pickens; propagandawingofdnc; sbvft; swiftboat; swiftboatveterans; vietnam; vietnamvets
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To: digger48

DMN is a liberal rag


41 posted on 06/22/2008 12:21:38 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: kcvl

YARK!


42 posted on 06/22/2008 12:22:34 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem
This article is as biased as they come. It is slanted and full of lies. The Swift Boat Vets are heroes.

Now if the media did their job, they would have pressured Kerry to sign the Form 180 and release his military records. But Kerry did not because he has a LESS THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE on his record.

43 posted on 06/22/2008 12:23:29 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: kcvl

bttt


44 posted on 06/22/2008 12:25:18 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Dear KATE ZERNIKE,

Provide Kerry’s signed 180! End of discussion!

Sincerely,

“The American People”


45 posted on 06/22/2008 12:26:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: HerrBlucher

I was actually sorry to hear the SBVT’s were going to stop at ending Kerry’s presidential run. Why not keep going & get his sorry a** thrown out of the Senate? Maybe this will be a call for them to come back & finish the job!


46 posted on 06/22/2008 12:26:36 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: mylife
DMN is a liberal rag

It was the lead editorial in my local central Indiana newspaper. Also very left-leaning, but it certainly reveals the Lefts preferred tactics.

47 posted on 06/22/2008 12:26:57 PM PDT by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: digger48

I cant stand the DMN.

I hate to even glance at the front page


48 posted on 06/22/2008 12:30:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: neverdem
How interesting. An article in the NY Times that says that "not one, but several" of the charges were rebutted. But it doesn't give a single example of a charge that was rebutted. That strikes me as bad reporting. How about you?

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Barack (Rorschach) Obama"

49 posted on 06/22/2008 12:32:47 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ( www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: neverdem

I get really tired of the media using the phrase ‘swift boating’ in the context they do.

As though it was unfounded smears.

It was truth revealed ...


50 posted on 06/22/2008 12:39:16 PM PDT by altura (McCain for President - or, as I call it, NOBama.)
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To: mylife

“I cant stand the DMN.

I hate to even glance at the front page”

And yet, and yet, I have to take the loathsome rag because the DP has to have the sports page.


51 posted on 06/22/2008 12:43:18 PM PDT by altura (McCain for President - or, as I call it, NOBama.)
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To: Twotone
Maybe this will be a call for them to come back & finish the job!

Lets hope so.

52 posted on 06/22/2008 12:44:32 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Drill drill drill for oil offshore and on land merrily merrily merrily merrily environuts be damned)
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To: altura

Whats his name??... Jim Hanson?.. Thinks he is the greatest sports reporter on the planet.

Bah!

I hate that rag. The cowboys and the mavs and stars and rangers can kiss my big toe


53 posted on 06/22/2008 12:50:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: KC_Conspirator

I wonder why Murtha doesn’t attack Kerry for his murderous acts in Vietnam?


54 posted on 06/22/2008 12:53:27 PM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: neverdem

Isn’t Kerry angling for Secretary of State? Heaven help us!


55 posted on 06/22/2008 12:53:35 PM PDT by Misschuck
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To: Congressman Billybob
How interesting. An article in the NY Times that says that "not one, but several" of the charges were rebutted. But it doesn't give a single example of a charge that was rebutted. That strikes me as bad reporting. How about you?

Oh, I dunno. It's about as good reporting as you can do when the facts are against you. ;^) This is the New York Times, remember.

56 posted on 06/22/2008 12:54:15 PM PDT by Grut
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To: politicalwit

And what about that reckless lout Max Cleland?

Swillin beer and tossing grenades around. The guy is a menace.

;)


57 posted on 06/22/2008 12:56:33 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

Anyone ever notice that All of the Lefts war heros of the past 20 years are complete jerks?

They havent had an authentic hero since JFK


58 posted on 06/22/2008 1:00:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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My husband and I are proud of the many small contributions we made to Swiftboat Vets for Truth and am delighted it damaged Kerry so much he wasn’t elected. HE deserves to be tried for treason for all the reasons mentioned on this site.
I am disturbed, however, when even Fox News, Bill O and the foxies- use compalints about authentic truth against democrats as being “swiftboated”. And no one even on FOx corrects them as the true meaning of the word

Cordio.


59 posted on 06/22/2008 1:07:33 PM PDT by Cordio
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To: HerrBlucher
"Now the anti-swifts can spread their lies without effective rebuttal.....or so it seems....we will see."

The cowardly and traitorous Kerry and the racist Obama SUDDENLY started running their mouth about the SBVFT -- just this month!

Surprise, surprise ---- NOW they want to do battle, after the SBVFT have left the field of battle...

Now THAT is a perfect picture of how much Kerry feared the TRUTH from the TRUTH TELLERS....

All the important and manly parts of Kerry must have run down his mother's leg....

At my age - I'm just praying I live long enough to take a dump on his grave......

The GOP and the DNC are both living in fear that a new SFBVT will appear ----- it will suck a lot of money from the GOP and cause havoc for the DNC.

Most conservative in my neighborhood - diverted ALL their political contributions to the SBVFT and away from the GOP.

60 posted on 06/22/2008 1:16:16 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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