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Obama's anti-smear site relies on a phony document
American Thinker ^ | June 25, 2008 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 06/25/2008 1:50:29 PM PDT by Red Steel

For some time now Just One Minute's commenter jmh, Polarik at Townhall and others have examined the "birth certificate" for Obama published on the Daily Kos site as well as the site Obama has established to respond to the "smears" against him.

The documents are not identical and seem obviously phony.

Israeli Insider confirms their suspicions:

It is now a certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake. (snip)

Some of these oddities surfaced in Israel Insider's previous article on the subject, but new comparative documentary evidence presented below, and official verification obtained by Israel Insider from a senior Hawaiian official, provides the strongest confirmation yet. (snip)

Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."

Why would Obama's anti-smear site itself rely on a phoney birth certificate? I can't imagine . Some have suggested it's to hide the fact that he was not a "natural born" U.S. citizen and is, therefore, ineligible to run. Maybe.

Rick Ballard has his own idea :

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; obamatruthfile; smear

1 posted on 06/25/2008 1:50:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The one thing that is not fake about B.O. is that he is a Communist.


2 posted on 06/25/2008 1:53:02 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Red Steel; nikos1121; BossLady; jimrob; Lancey Howard; AmericaUnited

Clarice Feldman gets into the act. Thumbs up to the American Thinker


3 posted on 06/25/2008 1:56:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Don Corleone

LOL. Ain’t that the truth.


4 posted on 06/25/2008 1:56:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel
The reason is to hide his second middle name.
Obama's full name is Barack Hussein Mohammad Obama.
 
5 posted on 06/25/2008 1:57:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: Red Steel

This is by far the easiest thing to clear up. If I can get my son a birth certificate for his little league wouldn’t you think that the nominee of the Democrat Party could get one to show his apologizers in the MSM?

Something is up.


6 posted on 06/25/2008 1:58:04 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Red Steel

7 posted on 06/25/2008 1:58:44 PM PDT by shineon
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To: Red Steel

How can we get a petition going? How can we post it? Does anyone know? If so, I propose that we send the following signed petition to Senator Obama.

“Senator Obama, there has been a concensus among computer graphics experts that the birth certificate posted on your website is a fake and certainly not an official document issued by the State of Hawaii. When one searches public archives there is no record of you being born in Hawaii or of a marriage between your parents. In addition, two websites list two different hospitals as your hospital of birth. People are asking if you indeed were born here or in Kenya as it has been reported that your relatives at one time contended to the media that you were born in Kenya. We support your legal right to run for the office of President of the United States providing that you meet the natural born citizenship requirements. Unfortunately, Sir, there is the appearance here that you are hiding something regarding your birth record and pedigree. We therefore, respectfully ask that you release your original birth certificate and hospital records to the public. If you choose to refuse please give the American public the reason why”

Signed by concerned citizens


8 posted on 06/25/2008 2:00:56 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: counterpunch

is it really?


9 posted on 06/25/2008 2:01:54 PM PDT by petercooper (It's called subprime for a reason.)
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To: counterpunch

Let’s start a sweepstake!

I’ve got “Buraq Hussein ZionKiller Obama-Jihad “


10 posted on 06/25/2008 2:03:44 PM PDT by agere_contra
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To: petercooper

Yes, I believe so.
Also, Barack is the Arabic word for “Blessed” in Islam.


11 posted on 06/25/2008 2:06:37 PM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain for President - Because we need VICTORY in Iraq, not RETREAT)
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To: Red Steel

Has anyone noticed that this document has a date stamped on the back that says “JUL 6 2007”

Is this significant?


12 posted on 06/25/2008 2:06:58 PM PDT by dila813
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To: agere_contra

Let’s start a sweepstake!

I’ve got “Buraq Hussein ZionKiller Obama-Jihad “

Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas as in my tagline.


13 posted on 06/25/2008 2:07:11 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Kerry was a Uber Liberal, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas makes Kerry look like Jesse Helms!)
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To: Red Steel

This is a fake controversy meant to suck us in and discredit us, ala the Michelle Osama “whitey” fraud.


14 posted on 06/25/2008 2:07:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So at the least, Obama is perpetrating public deception.


15 posted on 06/25/2008 2:18:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Then why not post the threads of the real controversies so we can look them over.


16 posted on 06/25/2008 2:21:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel

At the least.


17 posted on 06/25/2008 2:21:28 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel

When my birth certificate arrived, it had a nice well defined embossed seal on it. After a few years of sitting in a file with high humidity (I used a whole house fan at night), the seal is darn near impossible to detect.


18 posted on 06/25/2008 2:24:15 PM PDT by fso301
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To: dila813

“Has anyone noticed that this document has a date stamped on the back that says “JUL 6 2007” Is this significant?”

Yes. It is consistent with other date stampped certificates.

The document does originate from within the Hawaii Dept. of Health. But it is not complete. It is not signed, and does not bear an embossed certification stamping.


19 posted on 06/25/2008 2:30:16 PM PDT by Shermy (Handlebars, Flobots. A prophecy about egomania, megalomania and Obama.)
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To: pissant
Then why not post the threads of the real controversies so we can look them over.

Are you saying you can't find anything real to object to about Obama, so you are resorting to things that are as likely to bite you in the ass as not?

Hint: You might look at his Social Security "reform," Iraq surrender plans, tax increases, his desire to increase the price of gas even higher as a response to high gas prices...

You mean you can't find these things on your own?

20 posted on 06/25/2008 2:36:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have looked at all of those. As far as I can tell, 99% of FR realizes what a commie dirtbag Obama is. Therefore, we need to make an impact by examining his pathetic history, of all his history, not just that approved for examination by you.

Check this link and scroll through the many dozens of threads, let me know who posted them. Not everyone is confined to chewing gum OR walking.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/larrysinclairslover/index?tab=articles


21 posted on 06/25/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Thank God your here to save us, pissant.

That's an excellent name you chose, by the way.

22 posted on 06/25/2008 2:47:19 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: counterpunch

I agree. Also the fake lists dad’s race as “African” with mom as “Caucasian”. In 1961, I doubt African would be used. Probably “black” if not “negro”. Perhaps it is actually “Arab”. Hopefully, the truth will out and the fact that his campaign is posting a fake. It is getting some more coverage and Clarice Feldman has bona fides....


23 posted on 06/25/2008 2:48:31 PM PDT by eureka! (McCain....I guess.)
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To: eureka!
It is getting some more coverage and Clarice Feldman has bona fides....

And Rush loves the American Thinker. Perhaps he'll mention it tomorrow.
24 posted on 06/25/2008 2:53:00 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You might look at his Social Security "reform," Iraq surrender plans, tax increases, his desire to increase the price of gas even higher as a response to high gas prices...

What on earth are you doing here?! Get over to those threads and get to work.

25 posted on 06/25/2008 2:56:17 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: pissant

Oh no, after viewing that link some are going to pass out wondering how you can chew 17 different flavors of gum and be entered in a Decathlon. LOL!


26 posted on 06/25/2008 2:59:09 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

That was a pretty pissanty post. LOL. I guess I’ve heard the same argument you are making more than a few times lately and got extra snarky about it. Sorry ‘bout that.


27 posted on 06/25/2008 3:03:14 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: All
Once again, the issue is CREDIBILITY.

Even if Obama comes out with a real doc that contains the identical information, he gets SLAMMED due to perpetrating FRAUD and DECEIT on the American people. Yes, I know the KoolAid drinkers won't care, but that IS NOT who the battle is for. it's for the middle. And right now many older school dems just don't trust Obama. That has come out in exit interview after exit interview.

28 posted on 06/25/2008 3:04:22 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Ha! But I’ll admit to being fired up over this being coverd by The American Thinker. One of Rush’s favorite websites, if I recall.


29 posted on 06/25/2008 3:06:13 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel


30 posted on 06/25/2008 3:12:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I oppose Obama because I am opposed to all of his policies as referenced by you plus some others you did not reference: He is Anti-Second Amendment rights (guns); wants to raise taxes; is wrong on fiscal policy; wrong on monetary policy; fundamentally, he is Anti-America on foreign policy; doesn't want to control the borders; and doesn't want to defend the country from foreign enemies.

My opposition to Obama is also founded on the proposition that he really doesn't stand firmly for anything I do support--he abstains on most of the difficult legislative issues; he has changed his position on issues like Israel; troops in Iraq; and other questions on which his original opposition to consensus voter views is clear and would have threatened his candidacy.

But--it begins to look to me as though the original interview with the woman he refers to as his grandmother and with his half siblings in which they are quoted as having been present at the time of his birth in Kenya is in fact correct.

Which in turn also infers that he is not legally qualified to be President of the United States for the reason that he is not a natural born citizen. He flunks the natural born even though his mother was a citizen because she was his only citizen parent and she had not resided in the United States for the period required to make her offspring natural born.

Now maybe there is additional evidence on this point to be found however instead of publishing fake documents and restricting access to original records, the Obama campaign needs to step up and assist in the process of developing such evidence.

31 posted on 06/25/2008 3:21:31 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I think you e overlooking the fact that by Obama having this fake document on his site as proof of his citizenship, he is actually discrediting himself. I guess under your theory Dan Rather should have been given a pass too?
32 posted on 06/25/2008 3:22:56 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: Red Steel

Of course there is no birth cert. They don’t give those to the spawn of a jackal. /Omen refernce


33 posted on 06/25/2008 3:29:33 PM PDT by piytar
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To: counterpunch
True Most likely
I'd like to know About his qualifying for a senate seat?
34 posted on 06/25/2008 3:46:50 PM PDT by LynnHam
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To: pissant

Yes, Rush loves the American Thinker...he may be reading this as we speak while feverishly doing show prep. Unless he is out golfing. ;)


35 posted on 06/25/2008 3:59:48 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: counterpunch

And supposedly, “Obama” in Hawaiian means “depression.”

Blessed Depression.


36 posted on 06/25/2008 4:11:37 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Justice has a sword, and that sword needs to swing today.)
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To: nikos1121
“Senator Obama, there has been a concensus among computer graphics experts that the birth certificate posted on your website is a fake and certainly not an official document issued by the State of Hawaii. When one searches public archives there is no record of you being born in Hawaii or of a marriage between your parents. In addition, two websites list two different hospitals as your hospital of birth. People are asking if you indeed were born here or in Kenya as it has been reported that your relatives at one time contended to the media that you were born in Kenya. We support your legal right to run for the office of President of the United States providing that you meet the natural born citizenship requirements. Unfortunately, Sir, there is the appearance here that you are hiding something regarding your birth record and pedigree. We therefore, respectfully ask that you release your original birth certificate and hospital records to the public. If you choose to refuse please give the American public the reason why”

Signed:

Hillary...Gotcha!

37 posted on 06/25/2008 4:18:34 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Chode

Hey, Didn’t Obama tell you not to smear him or his little wife!

Stop making fun of his ears. You know how sensitive he is about his ears!

And don’t you ever make fun of his wife.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp3.blogger.com/_BjA9HB5RzRc/R8E30jeWeoI/AAAAAAAAA-4/u199p3NLNjk/s400/michelle-obama-teenager.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi%3FArtNum%3D225653&h=400&w=331&sz=26&hl=en&start=14&um=1&tbnid=1HsLpf8BgNmhBM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMichelle%2BObama%2Bas%2Ba%2Bgirl%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS230US231%26sa%3DG

Obama’s No Smear Force Field is kind of silly. As a child I use to hate being teased....the more I protested....the more I got teased.


38 posted on 06/25/2008 5:30:28 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan

If you get the lighting just right...Obama looks like a high school graduate.
http://thedarkprophet.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/barack-obama-bw.png


39 posted on 06/25/2008 5:34:24 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
did you say ears???

40 posted on 06/25/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: pissant

We didn’t start the fire....... ;)


41 posted on 06/25/2008 5:55:43 PM PDT by BossLady ("People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own soul" - Carl Jung)
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To: David
Which in turn also infers that he is not legally qualified to be President of the United States

Even if everything you say is correct, I am sure Justice Kennedy can find an evolving standard of citizenship based on international law.

42 posted on 06/25/2008 6:09:36 PM PDT by Stentor (Obama supporters. Letting the little void do the thinking for the big void.)
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To: Red Steel

btt


43 posted on 06/25/2008 6:16:32 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Chode

I’m goin’ to tell!


44 posted on 06/25/2008 6:44:05 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: LynnHam

If you look at the Constitution...I think there is different requirements to be a US Senator. If your naturalized you can hold a Senate seat but must be in this country for 15 years or something like that.


45 posted on 06/25/2008 6:48:18 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Milligan
if i had a nickel for every time i heard that... 8^)
46 posted on 06/25/2008 8:02:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: pissant

It’s on the Hannity site today!

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=716761

pinging you back again!


47 posted on 06/26/2008 6:42:36 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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