Posted on 06/28/2008 12:20:21 PM PDT by FocusNexus
The "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign is not certified as authentic and appears to be a photoshopped fake.
Embossed seal of the State of Hawaii absent from the purported "birth certificate" of Barack Obama
Janice Okubo, Director of Communications of the State of Hawaii Department of Health, told Israel Insider: "At this time there are no circumstances in which the State of Hawaii Department of Health would issue a birth certification or certification of live birth only electronically." And, she added, "In the State of Hawaii all certified copies of certificates of live birth have the embossed seal and registrar signature on the back of the document."
So if he were registered as being born in Hawaii, Barack Obama -- because only he or another member of his immediate family could by law request a "Certification of Live Birth" -- must have a certified paper copy, with embossed stamp and seal, or he could request one. But what his campaign has put forward as genuine, according to the senior spokesman in the relevant department of the State of Hawaii, is not in fact a certified copy. It is not valid.
The Obama campaign, however, continues to flaunt the unstamped, unsealed, uncertified document -- notably in very low resolution -- on its "Fight the Smears" website, with campaign officials vowing that it's authentic, sending the image around as "proof" to reporters, and inviting supporters to refer to it as they battle against supposed distortions and calumnies against their candidate. However, the campaign refuses to produce an authentic original birth certificate from the year of Obama's birth, or even a paper version with seal and signature of the "Certification of Live Birth." Nor has it even published an electronic copy with the requisite embossed seal and signature.
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Because his full name is Barack Muhammed Hussein Obama.
I stand corrected.
My parents were both American citizens when I was born in a civilian hospital in London England. The hospital issued a British birth certificate, but my Father also registered my birth with the American embassy, and obtained a Consular certificate of birth for me.
Years later, after my Father died and my Mother re-married, my new step-father adopted me and my brother in California. The court issued each of us a new “delayed certificate of birth” with our new last name.
I still had access to my old certificates, but my brother, who was born in California, had his original birth certificate sealed by the state. Strangely, I now use my stepfather’s name, and my brother has reverted to his birth name - although he cannot produce a birth certificate showing it.
I'm not Fred, but I see a logical explanation for using "African" and not "negro, negroid, or black". The former could apply to a citizen of an African nation, while the latter could apply to a multi-generational descendant of a former American slave.
There is a vast difference between an American black and someone from Africa. I once did some work with a fellow from Nigeria who was working with the black community in our town. Initially I thought they would be from the same mold, but as time went it became clear that their working together was like getting oil and water to mix.
So the term "African" could be totally legitimate.
Nah, that's not their style. They would be more likely to attack anybody who brought the truth forward. I don't know why; they're just stupid, I guess.
Hillary is on top of everything Obama. She is either being blackmailed into keeping silent, OR she's waiting for the "perfect time" to reveal the b.c. or another scandal via someone being paid nicely for the honors. Exposing ineligibility certainly seems the sure shot.
You may be right, or you may be wrong.
You may be right, or you may be wrong.
LOL......
Yep them ifa’s, coulda’s and woulda’s will surely get you.
Well I can't argue with you there ......they continue to show stupidity time and time again.
Even if you were born in New Zealand to two American parents you are a naturalized citizen, and every U.S. military installation is U.S. soil. You are thinking way too hard about this issue. McCain is 100% eligible. I’m not sure about the Obama question, not enough information without a proper birth certificate.
Hillary is... waiting for the "perfect time" to reveal the b.c.
This issue has taken on quite a life which tells me that it’s important to folks. Not just on FR either, there are articles on several websites, I don’t think that it’s going away from the looks of the amount of activity about the birth certificate.
Let's try it again.
The Governing Law is the United States Constitution which provides that to be eligible to be President, an individual must be a "natural born" citizen.
We also have a Citizenship statute. It provides that a child born outside the US to two parents, both of whom are citizens automatically becomes a citizen without a naturalization proceeding. McCain is a "citizen" under that statute.
The Citizenship statue also provides that a child born outside the US with one parent who is a citizen and one parent who is not a citizen automatically becomes a citizen if the citizen parent has resided in the US for ten years or more, five of which years were after the date on which the citizen parent reached the age of 21.
Since Obama's mother was 18 when he was born, she flunks the five year rule by definition. If he was born in Kenya, he is not a citizen unless he goes through a naturalization proceeding.
However the citizenship statutes are irrelevant to the issue of Presidential eligibility--to both Obama and McCain. The "natural born" rule is a rule of Constitutional Law--Congress cannot modify it without a Constitutional Amendment; Congress can't define how the rule operates either. The sense of the Senate that Panama ought to be treated as US Soil is all very interesting but I doubt that the Supreme Court will come down on that number.
“So, why is Obama being allowed to get away with this?”
Because some people are created more equal than others.
Please explain further... I am listening, just not understanding this last part of your statement.
Until BHO authorizes the release of the HAWIAN certificate, he will be in my eyes as the same POS as Kerry who never signed his form 180.
“This is not a job as a dog catcher.”
What do you have against dog catchers? Most are probably more honest than many politicians.
CNN’s Crowley: “If I had to boil this debate down to something, I would tell you it was three words, ‘yes, yes, yes.’ That’s what Hillary Clinton said when she was asked whether she thought Barack Obama could get elected president this fall. As you may know, she has been campaigning largely trying to convince superdelegates that he’s not electable. I think tonight for her to say I think he is, takes that off the table”
She knows.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/04/hotline_after_d_370.html
And, nobody is "getting away" with this.
But the context of the issue presents difficult choices for a party who wishes to bring the issue to a head in a legal proceeding.
Who and in what context would have standing to even raise the issue in a forum which could issue a ruling effectively precluding Obama from standing for election?
My suspicion is that the Clintons intended to wait until the convention and then have a surrogate raise the issue and have now decided to abandon that plan and attempt to bring it to a head now because as time passes, Mrs. Clinton's standing as having Presidential stature is deteriorating--if she waits for the convention, Al Gore might be the nominee, not her. In fact, it wouldn't be surprising that in the current context, Gore might get the nomination anyway.
The important, but secondary impact, is on McCain. Focus on the legal issue is likely to demonstrate that McCain is out also.
And you don't think Hillary would not lie if it was to her advantage?
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