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The Hypocrisy of WALL-E (more environmentalist propaganda)
National Review ^ | 06/29 01:52 PM | [Greg Pollowitz]

Posted on 06/29/2008 5:43:02 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

I saw WALL-E with my five year old on Saturday night. It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment.

All this from mega-company Disney, who wants us to buy WALL-E kitsch for our kids that are manufactured in China at environment-destroying factories and packed in plastic that will take hundreds of year to biodegrade in our landfills.

Much to Disney's chagrin, I will do my part to avoid future environmental armageddon by boycotting any and all WALL-E merchandise and I hope others join my crusade.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: environment; envirowhackos; hollywood; moviereview; prpagandawingofdnc; walle
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1 posted on 06/29/2008 5:43:02 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You forgot shipping them over on container ships using fuel, spewing CO2, dumping their sewage and bringing invasive species to our bays.


2 posted on 06/29/2008 5:45:51 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It’s a brilliant film that argues against depending on goverment. Most people liked it...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2037224/posts


3 posted on 06/29/2008 5:49:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Much to Disney's chagrin, I will do my part to avoid future environmental armageddon by boycotting any and all WALL-E merchandise

What an idiot. Hey Greg! You just paid them to make their anti-American movie, you couldn't even START your stupid boycott before you FAILed.

With friends like this at NRO, who needs Algore?

4 posted on 06/29/2008 5:50:32 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Liberals can’t be hypocrites - according to the MSM. So this won’t be covered - it’s a non-story.


5 posted on 06/29/2008 5:50:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hypocrisy doesn’t apply to liberals - according to the MSM - FreeperProud2BeRight)
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To: sam_paine

It’s not remotely anti-American.


6 posted on 06/29/2008 5:55:32 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I saw the film and while the enviro-message might be there in a small way, there are other messages, too...

The opening shot of earth shows a windmill farm buried in trash. To ME, that is a message that “none of this environmental stuff makes sense.”

Also, the bulk of the story is about friendship and love being more important than technology. I went away smiling from the film.


7 posted on 06/29/2008 6:06:22 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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To: Borges
It’s not remotely anti-American.

Anti-Consumer (trash will kill the planet?), anti-capitalist (evil space corporation doesn't want anyone to sneak out of their captive business model, so they are bad guys?)....name me a theme in the movie that's not identical to something of which Michael Moore wouldn't do in a documentary in space?

8 posted on 06/29/2008 6:07:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The boycott should have started with the film...


9 posted on 06/29/2008 6:08:12 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Borges

That is not what I have read at a number of conservative review sites - and all the libs a KosKiddies love it.

I assume you saw it? I have not.


10 posted on 06/29/2008 6:09:45 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The real issue is not whether or not this film has a liberal message or a hidden conservative one. It’s the fact that it’s not a kid-friendly movie in the tradition of Disney. It’s dark, incoherent, and at the same time has an 80s cheese to it. Why couldn’t Disney/Pixar make a no-brainer sequel to Cars or The Incredibles?


11 posted on 06/29/2008 6:11:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
WALL-E looks just like a micro version of Johnny 5 from the old 80s Short Circuit films. I'm going to watch this movie when it comes to video and simply pretend it's a new CGI sequel called "Short Circuit 3: Johnny Five in Love"

He could still be around 700 years in the future!

12 posted on 06/29/2008 6:14:04 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Support Operation Chaos!)
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To: sam_paine
anti-capitalist (evil space corporation doesn't want anyone to sneak out of their captive business model, so they are bad guys?)

In the film there was one gloabl 'benevolent' corporation/government, that doesn't sound like capitalism to me.
13 posted on 06/29/2008 6:16:20 PM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: sam_paine

It’s about the need for individuality and not waiting for some unseen impersonal ruler to run your life for you. It’s in the tradition of Brave New World and 2001.


14 posted on 06/29/2008 6:18:58 PM PDT by Borges
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To: NucSubs

Yes I have. See post 14. Who cares what the Kos people liked?


15 posted on 06/29/2008 6:20:14 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

I saw it today with my 5 YO daughter....the animation was sensational....the story was drawn out and borish....humans were depicted as fat, lazy slobs who have everything done for them...very insulting for those of us who work our tails off...


16 posted on 06/29/2008 6:20:40 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

It’s not about you its about those who sit on their couch slurping fast food and not actively living.


17 posted on 06/29/2008 6:22:12 PM PDT by Borges
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To: God luvs America
humans were depicted as fat, lazy slobs who have everything done for them...very insulting for those of us who work our tails off...

How about "the movie shows the humans who have everything done for them turn into fat, lazy slobs...a positive message for those of us who work our tails off [to support themselves]."
18 posted on 06/29/2008 6:23:02 PM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: Borges; itsPatAmerican

I just found the entire story drawn out and not very entertaining (animation, yes??? story?? no; I’m sick of being told doomsday is coming and it’s the fault of corporations)....

I quickly scadattled with my daughter after the movie but I can tell you I expected to see, “movie inspired by algore” in the credits...


19 posted on 06/29/2008 6:32:34 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

The leaders in the film were some vague mix between state and corporation. Anyway Dystopian fiction has been around long before Al Gore. And this one has a hopeful conclusion.


20 posted on 06/29/2008 6:34:44 PM PDT by Borges
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To: itsPatAmerican
I want to see this movie. The WSJ’s review on Friday AND Saturday, are enough to make time next weekend.
21 posted on 06/29/2008 6:35:53 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Borges

I am honestly glad you feel that way- I love Disney and it’s a big part of my family’s life....but I just shook my head as I was watching the movie...


22 posted on 06/29/2008 6:37:02 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Besides why reduce a film this complex to one simple message and miss out on one of the most artful studio films in years? The first half was almost like a Buster Keaton comedy.


23 posted on 06/29/2008 6:38:27 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Any story can have multiple (and sometimes contradictory) messages. It is largely a function of the viewers views. I liked it, my kids liked it. The humans didn’t take the easy way out in the end, they rolled up their sleeves and did the hard work necessary.


24 posted on 06/29/2008 6:41:44 PM PDT by itsPatAmerican
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To: Borges

Uhmmm...I do...

Generally, if they like something, it cannot be something I would like. Conversely, if they disliked a something - like a policy or candidate or movie, the odds would be good I would like it.

You’re entitled to your opinion and you know more about it than I because you have seen it. But what I have read about it from usually reliable sources paints a different picture of than your commentary does.


25 posted on 06/29/2008 6:44:16 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: sam_paine

Couldn’t you have made your point without the name calling?

The tone is getting very rude around here


26 posted on 06/29/2008 6:46:58 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: NucSubs

So if they liked the Sisten Chapel you would dislike it? Art doesn’t work that way.


27 posted on 06/29/2008 6:55:28 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Mr. K

I’m pretty sure he was addressing the author and not the poster, since he called him by name. However I agree that once name-calling and profanity start, the argument has been lost because you cannot persuade by those methods.


28 posted on 06/29/2008 6:55:59 PM PDT by secret garden (Dubiety reigns here)
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To: BillyBoy

Johnny-5 would kick Wall-E’s backside!


29 posted on 06/29/2008 7:02:28 PM PDT by getarope (I don't like McCain, but I'll pick him over Osama Obama ANYTIME!)
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To: God luvs America
.humans were depicted as fat, lazy slobs who have everything done for them.

Don't forget. The humans were living in micro-gravity for 700 years and lost a considerable amount of bone mass. This was explained in the film.

30 posted on 06/29/2008 7:13:08 PM PDT by pjd
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Much to Disney's chagrin, I will do my part to avoid future environmental armageddon by boycotting any and all WALL-E merchandise and I hope others join my crusade.

Party pooper!

31 posted on 06/29/2008 7:14:03 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Mr. K

I wasn’t being rude to anyone “around here.”

“Greg” is the author of the silly article at National Review Online.

Though you’re right, to the extent I could’ve given him the benefit of the doubt and said he’d “taken leave of his senses” instead of calling him an idiot.

But for someone who makes a snide point about starting the 10-millionth boycott of a company to which he JUST PAID admission to their movie...well...he deserves some snippyness.

Further, you are also correct that the fragging around here has hit all time highs.


32 posted on 06/29/2008 7:24:37 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Borges
It’s in the tradition of Brave New World and 2001.

Both of which were great societal commentary and dramatic masterpieces. Neither of which should be done by Disney for kids, though.

33 posted on 06/29/2008 7:27:18 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: secret garden
However I agree that once name-calling and profanity start, the argument has been lost because you cannot persuade by those methods.

Yes, secret, I was railing on the author of the article.

And I could've been nicer...but the contradiction in the article is so frustrating.

Yaking offense and promising to start a boycott--- just right after you pay that company $40 in admission for yourself and your child to see a film you deem as worthy boycotting?

Aside from whether or not the film is good/worth it/propaganda/masterpiece....the article is too cute by half....or just dumb.

34 posted on 06/29/2008 7:32:48 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

There are plenty works of this sort that kids read...Animal Farm, Farenheit 451. This film’s content isn’t as disturbing as the aforementioned.


35 posted on 06/29/2008 7:37:22 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment.

It was also a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of letting your life be run by an authoritarian entity (and the whole BnL corporation screamed 'government-run' to me), the virtues of individualism, and how working hard for something you want accomplished is much more effective, efficient, and rewarding than letting a giant state-esque entity do it for you (while failing).

36 posted on 06/29/2008 7:50:19 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: sam_paine

?

Not the movie my familly saw.


37 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:25 PM PDT by securityman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How is the movie incoherent? The movie is a love story about two little robots.


38 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:25 PM PDT by securityman
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To: itsPatAmerican

I felt that Wall*E was extremely heavy-handed in its message. I normally love all of Pixar’s films, but this one seriously left a bad taste in my mouth.

BTW- if you’re interested in my basic review, feel free to scope out my blog:
A_Baran.1up.com


39 posted on 06/29/2008 7:59:33 PM PDT by 3rdJudgement
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
It was like a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of over consumption, big corporations, and the destruction of the environment.

Ah... so they repackaged the plot of Silent Running.

40 posted on 06/29/2008 9:10:35 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Borges

Art doesn’t work that way?

I think, insofar as literature or film are considered art (let’s not get carried away calling this movie “art”), it absolutely works that way.

If the NY times savaged “Passion of the Christ” I would be very interested in WHY they savaged it - what they did not like about it - and I would take note.

If they loved “Letters from Iwo Jima” I would do likewise.

When I read liberal commentary on Maya Angelou I know I can skip her. Likewise I have familiarized myself with their attacks on one of my favorites - Rudyard Kipling - so as to be better prepared to defend him.

And that CAN also be extended to other non-literary forms of art.

There is a bronze statute of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin outside a restaurant in Atlantic City called RED SQUARE. It is certainly art and the libs love it it. The world famous photograph of Che Guevara is, actually, a stunning bit of photography artistically speaking. Ya won’t find replicas of either of these in my home.

So when I read a review from NRO and somewhere else (I must admit I forget at the moment) which call the movie WALL-E watermelon dreck (green on the outside - red on the inside) and I read about libs at Kos or DU drooling over it, my desire to see it becomes something less than “I don’t think so”.

We can throw in for good measure the non-ideological fact that, based on the plot, it is the ballsiest piece of cinematic hypocrisy in a long time (a commercal movie, from DISNEY(!!!), with gazillions in kid-targeted marketing potential, lamenting consumerism and corporations).

Just making a point.


41 posted on 06/29/2008 9:10:46 PM PDT by NucSubs (Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Charles Martel

It’s a bit different when the propaganda is aimed directly at children who have so little discernment. Bruce Dern’s character in Silent Running was for an adult audience of SciFi folks, and they generally have some degree of discernment with which to reject propaganda. Children just soak it up and incorporate it into their world view ... and that’s precisely why lieberals make movies like Wall-E and Happy Feet.


42 posted on 06/29/2008 9:13:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: sam_paine
God said to be good stewards along with having dominion. What part of that message is incorrect? Overconsumption, wastefulness, blind obedience to consumerism, and sloth are hardly conservative principles.

Fighting for what you beleive in is not.

The humans shown here have been lied to from the get-go. Until they were shown the truth, they didn't know what was going on. I actually saw a pretty conservative message (self-reliance vs. relying on someone/something else) come out of it at the end.

43 posted on 06/30/2008 6:25:30 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Recovering_Democrat

BINGO

Love, friendship, take care of your trash, get off your butt and DO something with your life, DON’T be a TV-screen/PC-screen addict, interact with people face to face...

...these are BAD messages?


44 posted on 06/30/2008 6:28:42 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
It was also a 90-minute lecture on the dangers of letting your life be run by an authoritarian entity (and the whole BnL corporation screamed 'government-run' to me)

I agree. I could just as easily have seen Lenin/Stalin behind that corporate logo.

45 posted on 06/30/2008 6:36:44 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Loved it.


46 posted on 06/30/2008 6:41:37 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Manic_Episode

Ditto


47 posted on 06/30/2008 7:16:18 AM PDT by Nokia
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To: NucSubs

This film is absolutely Art and as are all great films. I tend to seek out good critics as opposed to those who’s opinion I don’t esteem. The NYT has exactly one good film critic and he reviews DVDs mostly of classic films.


48 posted on 06/30/2008 7:44:52 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

It certainly doesn’t seem to be a preachy, as say “Happy Feet” was. Now that movie was preachy.


49 posted on 06/30/2008 7:47:44 AM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: MHGinTN; dfwgator

People who were surprised by ‘Happy Feet’ should’ve been aware of who made a film. Australian filmmaker George Miller is known for the pessimistic ‘Mad Max’ films and ‘Baby: Pig in the City’ which was another children’s film most people found too disturbing.


50 posted on 06/30/2008 7:51:37 AM PDT by Borges
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